4K Monitor ideas? For Fallout 4

[Symptom]

I'm doing a new pc build and wanted some feedback from people as to some features to look for in a high resolution MONITOR please be specific and give reasons why your choice is your choice.

Side note: I don't care that your 1080p monitor works great for you I am making a high resolution and frame rate build. Its for more than fallout but I put lots of time into modding fallout so I want it to accomidate

[ARmodder]

First off be warned that there are currently no graphics cards that can max out newer games such as Fallout 4 on 4k Ultra, many people are leaping at 4k Ultra monitors and TV's now that the pascal cards, and the RX 480's are out, and are griping that they can't run BF1, Fallout 4, Witcher 3 ect. maxed out above 30-40FPS in 4k. That being said you should post the build your going for before we give you recommendations.

[Leg Day]

Giant screen HDTV! Is there a point in using 4k for games yet?

[Symptom]

Originally posted by Leg Day:

Giant screen HDTV! Is there a point in using 4k for games yet?

Like I said above, I do mod alot and want to run my game above 1080p that doesn't mean 4k. I want the ability to run 4k for whatever I want though rather than upgrading again soon after buying.

[Xyzzy]

I have 4k monitor, Playing Fo4 on ultra gives me fps drops, so I play it 1080p Ultra and all ok.
I-4790k, gtx 980.
So ...

[Skunk]

At this time, 4K is still a marketing strategy to push players into the "tech of the future" trap. TV manufacturers (samsung, lg, sony, philips) wanted a boost in sales and released 4K prematurely and... incomplete. When pc hardware and consoles will be ready for 4k that will be 4K HDR. You will have not only hi-res but also color and contrast fidelity for your eyes to properly enjoy games.

Anyway if you really want to build a 4K PC now you should also check TVs not only monitors. TVs are way in front of monitors right now. For example i have a Sony 49X8005C (~$1000) for my ps4. even if it does not have hdr, it has amazing colors/contrast, the upscale from 1080 to 4K is beyond what i expected and much higher number of hz compared to a monitor.

If you want to go with monitors i think you should check 2K monitors. What is the point of 4K if you need to lower your settings?

Either think that way you need ~2000$ Budget for a good 2K rig-only build. I am curious what is your 4K budget?

[Big Boom Boom]

Originally posted by ARmodder:

First off be warned that there are currently no graphics cards that can max out newer games such as Fallout 4 on 4k Ultra, many people are leaping at 4k Ultra monitors and TV's now that the pascal cards, and the RX 480's are out, and are griping that they can't run BF1, Fallout 4, Witcher 3 ect. maxed out above 30-40FPS in 4k. That being said you should post the build your going for before we give you recommendations.

Rx480 is an entry level card dude. GTX1080 SLI or Titan X Pascal SLI can do it. Although there's no 4K monitor that has higher than 60hz refresh rate I know of.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Start with 1440p. You'll actually get a lot of the nice features ultra-high resolutions get like upscaling textures through DSR, without having to thrash your bank account like a Vietnamese ♥♥♥♥♥ on Tet for something like a Titan Pascal, especially because the Pascal refresh is coming later.

[Symptom]

Originally posted by Skunk:

At this time, 4K is still a marketing strategy to push players into the "tech of the future" trap. TV manufacturers (samsung, lg, sony, philips) wanted a boost in sales and released 4K prematurely and... incomplete. When pc hardware and consoles will be ready for 4k that will be 4K HDR. You will have not only hi-res but also color and contrast fidelity for your eyes to properly enjoy games.

Anyway if you really want to build a 4K PC now you should also check TVs not only monitors. TVs are way in front of monitors right now. For example i have a Sony 49X8005C (~$1000) for my ps4. even if it does not have hdr, it has amazing colors/contrast, the upscale from 1080 to 4K is beyond what i expected and much higher number of hz compared to a monitor.

If you want to go with monitors i think you should check 2K monitors. What is the point of 4K if you need to lower your settings?

Either think that way you need ~2000$ Budget for a good 2K rig-only build. I am curious what is your 4K budget?

3000ish its something I am going to piece together

[Symptom]

I haven't figured out my exact build yet I'll post intended specs later

[Big Boom Boom]

Originally posted by Symptom:

Originally posted by Skunk:

At this time, 4K is still a marketing strategy to push players into the "tech of the future" trap. TV manufacturers (samsung, lg, sony, philips) wanted a boost in sales and released 4K prematurely and... incomplete. When pc hardware and consoles will be ready for 4k that will be 4K HDR. You will have not only hi-res but also color and contrast fidelity for your eyes to properly enjoy games.

Anyway if you really want to build a 4K PC now you should also check TVs not only monitors. TVs are way in front of monitors right now. For example i have a Sony 49X8005C (~$1000) for my ps4. even if it does not have hdr, it has amazing colors/contrast, the upscale from 1080 to 4K is beyond what i expected and much higher number of hz compared to a monitor.

If you want to go with monitors i think you should check 2K monitors. What is the point of 4K if you need to lower your settings?

Either think that way you need ~2000$ Budget for a good 2K rig-only build. I am curious what is your 4K budget?

3000ish its something I am going to piece together

Acer Predator XB321HK
$800
There you go.

[Park_Ranger]

Mine....... ASUS PB287Q (No G-synch, 16:9, 60Hz)

[Coovesinator]

I play using a G-sync, 27" Predator UHD (IPS), the g-sync really helps disguise frame drops but for me it doesn't work at all with Just Cause 3, MGSV or Far Cry Primal so I have to use v-sync with them as normal to avoid tearing when above 60 fps, it works fine with FO4 though.

I'm using an overclocked GTX1080 with a 3770k (not overclocked) and 16GB of DDR3 1866hz RAM. I have god-rays set to low, shadows to high, motion blur off and iirc correctly everything else maxxed out, AA is on FXAA currently for me, although for most games you won't need AA at 27" with 4k anyway. I tend to get 50-60fps with those settings in FO4 , with occasional dips into the 40's and very occasional dips to 30's.

In general though I wish I had saved the extra and bought the 32" instead, as whilst 4k is very nice (2k/1440p is also nice by the way but not as sharp or detailed as 4k), when gaming on the 27" if I move my head closer to the screen (i.e too close for comfort, like 30 centimetres instead of 60 centimetres) then you see a LOT more detail in games that have decent 4k textures such as the witcher 3 or Forza, whereas with a larger screen I think you would see more of these extra details whilst sat at a more normal viewing distance for a monitor. Some people swear by 40" for 4k (same DPI as 1440p at 27"), but I'm thinking you would then then lose sharpness and need AA, and really would need to sit 3-4 feet away, so perhaps 32" is more of a sweet spot?

In short I would say:

Larger than 27" for 4k is preferable (I use 150% scaling on desktop at 27", for some this is too small still, plus the whole better detail thing that you cant see properly at a normal viewing distance).
G-sync until better cards available to cope with 60fps at 4k (although it's silly expensive).
A single GTX1080 or equivalent will net you 40fps-60fps in most current new games with a mixture of high and ultra, with either no or basic AA (which at least at 27" is barely needed anyway if at all). (Some exceptions exist such as DOOM (2016), where I get the equivalent of 70-80fps with everything maxxed including AA at 4k just for the hell of it, although of course only a 60hz monitor so 60fps in reality).
Bear in mind as newer games come out a GTX1080 will likely not perform to the above standard for very long.
My 27" IPS is fine but looking on amazon there may be quality control issues with the predators (or simply that lots of people who have no issues don't place reviews), interstingly there is a 43" phillips available currently and acer have just released a 43" as well (both non g-sync) although this may be too large. Google searches also reveal phillips has plans to introduce a curved 40" non-gsync this year.