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Two-Tu Jan 22, 2017 @ 10:53am
[HELP!] Games crashes when saving :( (CTD)
Hello!

My game keeps crashing to desktop when I try to (quick) save or fast travel to another place - every single time. It just happened today out of nowhere, I've never had any problems before.

Apart from using the console to spawn items and apply legendary armor/weapon effects on my equipment, I HAVEN'T INSTALLED ANY MODS.

Details:

My first crashed happened when I put a XXX.txt file with commands to add every crafting material into my inventory into the main folder of Fallout 4. Dumb as I am, I removed the .txt ending of said file, so it was a "typeless file", simply just a "file". Then I ran the "bat XXX" command in the console in game. Shortly after, my game freezed and then crashed. It didn't save or anything.
I loaded up my older save files from the time before I used the bat command and since then I can't save in any possible way ...

UPDATE:

- Saving works fine with a new character/game

Things I've already tried:

- Checked the game for corrupted files via Steam
- Disabled the Cloud synchronisation on Steam

Any advice?
Last edited by Two-Tu; Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:18am
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MageThis Jan 22, 2017 @ 10:56am 
Disable quick saves, rollback to a save before console poking and stop using the console?
Two-Tu Jan 22, 2017 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by MageThis:
Disable quick saves, rollback to a save before console poking and stop using the console?
I've used the console for quite along time without any problems and I didn't use any uncommon or extraordinary commands, only those, like I've said, "spawn items" commands as usual.

Also quick and "normal" saving both don't work.
Last edited by Two-Tu; Jan 22, 2017 @ 10:59am
76561198359653716 Jan 22, 2017 @ 11:28am 
I don't know how to fix this but I have a problem similar to this. I ALWAYS change Fallout 4's priority to Real Time or else it will not run, but before or after the intro it will crash to the desktop. SOMEONE HELP I JUST GOT IT YESTERDAY AND I WANT TO PLAY IT BADLY!! The closest I've gotten to ACTUAL gameplay was Character creation and then it decided to crash on me.:steamfacepalm:
Two-Tu Jan 22, 2017 @ 1:33pm 
Yeah, anyone else facing this problem?
SuperSledgeNY Jan 22, 2017 @ 2:06pm 
Sounds like a corrupted save. You can verify this by starting a new character and game and see if the same thing happens. If it does and you're playing totally vanilla, you'll probably have to uninstall the game, delete your ini files and start fresh. If you're OK with a new character, you're current save is probably corrupted and your best bet is to roll back to a save where you don't crash. I wish I had better news for you.

Lastly, I know that you said you haven't installed any mods but on the off chance that you did and then uninstalled it, that can definitely corrupt your save since some mods leave elements that get "baked" into your save forever.
Two-Tu Jan 22, 2017 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:
Lastly, I know that you said you haven't installed any mods but on the off chance that you did and then uninstalled it, that can definitely corrupt your save since some mods leave elements that get "baked" into your save forever.

well, I downloaded a .txt (it was named "crafting.txt") file with commands to add all crafting materials into inventory, BUT I removed the .txt ending from the file and entered "bat crafting" into console and then the game crashed without saving, hence my current save files should be from the time before I used this command.

But why are they still corrupt?
SuperSledgeNY Jan 22, 2017 @ 5:17pm 
Originally posted by Two-Tu:
Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:
Lastly, I know that you said you haven't installed any mods but on the off chance that you did and then uninstalled it, that can definitely corrupt your save since some mods leave elements that get "baked" into your save forever.

well, I downloaded a .txt (it was named "crafting.txt") file with commands to add all crafting materials into inventory, BUT I removed the .txt ending from the file and entered "bat crafting" into console and then the game crashed without saving, hence my current save files should be from the time before I used this command.

But why are they still corrupt?

Well, the deal with the TXT file sounds innocent enough but it's always a good idea to check anyway, so did you open the file in a txt editor and look it over BEFORE you ran it?

If the file is just adding items via the console, EVERY line should look like

player.additem xxxxxxxx yy where "xxxxxxxx" is the FormID and "yy" is the amount

If there's any other commands in there, I'd definitely investigate them to make sure they don't cause any harm to my game.

Assuming that the bat file was OK, the bad news is saves can and do get corrupted from time to time. Why don't you try rolling back to a prior save and see if you stabilize? I personally had a similar issue where I uninstalled a mod and then CTD every time I saved, fast traveled or the game autosaved. Thankfully I had a save that I made prior to installing the mod but the down side was I lost about a 2 weeks in game time.

Since you say you use the console a lot, I think you better read this:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/warning-fallout-4-console-commands-can-wreck-save-file/
Two-Tu Jan 22, 2017 @ 11:28pm 
Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:
Originally posted by Two-Tu:

well, I downloaded a .txt (it was named "crafting.txt") file with commands to add all crafting materials into inventory, BUT I removed the .txt ending from the file and entered "bat crafting" into console and then the game crashed without saving, hence my current save files should be from the time before I used this command.

But why are they still corrupt?

Well, the deal with the TXT file sounds innocent enough but it's always a good idea to check anyway, so did you open the file in a txt editor and look it over BEFORE you ran it?

If the file is just adding items via the console, EVERY line should look like

player.additem xxxxxxxx yy where "xxxxxxxx" is the FormID and "yy" is the amount

If there's any other commands in there, I'd definitely investigate them to make sure they don't cause any harm to my game.

Assuming that the bat file was OK, the bad news is saves can and do get corrupted from time to time. Why don't you try rolling back to a prior save and see if you stabilize? I personally had a similar issue where I uninstalled a mod and then CTD every time I saved, fast traveled or the game autosaved. Thankfully I had a save that I made prior to installing the mod but the down side was I lost about a 2 weeks in game time.

Since you say you use the console a lot, I think you better read this:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/warning-fallout-4-console-commands-can-wreck-save-file/

Well, stupid thing was, that I removed the .txt ending of the .txt file, so it was just a "file", not a .txt file. Then I ran the bat command and it crashed.

Yeah, afterwards, I put back the.txt ending by renaming and looked through it by opening it in Notepad; the commands were just adding materials, nothing else.

I loaded the save files which are from the time before running the bat command but it's like they are corrputed now, even though those saves were, again, from the time before running said bat command.

I'll check later in game and will give you updates.

Thanks for the tips for now.



Last edited by Two-Tu; Jan 22, 2017 @ 11:32pm
Two-Tu Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:10am 
So starting a completely new game allows me to (quick) save normally. I tried that out with a new character, then switched to my previous character and tried to save there - BUT IT STILL CRASHES TO DESKTOP.

I assume that it's indeed corrupted somehow, but that can't just be, as I did nothing unusual apart from spawning items like I did for the entire time anyway. When it crashed for the first time, I did not save or anything, so why are my older save files corrupted then if they weren't affected? Any ideas?

And is there a possible way to make it work again?

It's just sad as it has happened to me already a time ago. I don't wanna start over for a third time ...
Last edited by Two-Tu; Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:11am
Park_Ranger Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Two-Tu:

It's just sad as it has happened to me already a time ago. I don't wanna start over for a third time ...

You have a mere 12 hours in the game (That's nothing), delete everything, uninstall, re-install, start over, try not to ♥♥♥♥ it up this time.


Make sure it save's OK early on in the game, check it's saving OK often.
Last edited by Park_Ranger; Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:20am
Two-Tu Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by Park_Ranger:
Originally posted by Two-Tu:

It's just sad as it has happened to me already a time ago. I don't wanna start over for a third time ...

You have a mere 12 hours in the game (That's nothing), delete everything, uninstall, re-install, start over, try not to ♥♥♥♥ it up this time.


Make sure it save's OK early on in the game, check it's saving OK often.

I've played on a non-Steam version for quite more hours, then it got corrupted too, so I bought it again with the DLCs on Steam hoping that the Steam Cloud would spare from such a frustrating experience.

But no, it doesn't. 12 hours may not seem much, but I had alot of fun designing my settlements, modding my armor and weapons and actually putting love into this playthrough; it's just frustrating thinking that I'll have to start over again. Yeah, you aren't meant to be using cheats and the console, yet I did nothing that extremly wrong except from spawning ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ items (also by using said bat command) with the console in my last two playthroughs that it just corrupts for a second time.

Isn't there really another solution?
Last edited by Two-Tu; Jan 23, 2017 @ 5:46am
Park_Ranger Jan 23, 2017 @ 6:07am 
Originally posted by Two-Tu:

I've played on a non-Steam version for quite more hours, then it got corrupted too,

There is no non-steam version, unless your on about a console version.

If you have it on a console, go play that.
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