Fallout 4

Fallout 4

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Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 上午 11:58
Application Error - Event 1000 - NTDLL.DLL
I hope someone can help me - i´m freaking out, searched on google the whole day, nothing... only sites with software that contains malware or viruses...

OS: WIN7 Ultimate

:steamsad::steamsad::steamsad:

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- Provider

[ Name] Application Error

- EventID 1000

[ Qualifiers] 0

Level 2

Task 100

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2017-01-21T18:51:54.000000000Z

EventRecordID 128466

Channel Application

Computer xxxxxx

Security


- EventData

Fallout4.exe
1.8.7.0
5818e866
ntdll.dll
0.0.0.0
57fd0651
c0000374
00000000000bf3e2
1258
01d27416fe8ba129
I:\Fallout 4\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4.exe
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
aca0615d-e00a-11e6-a013-bcaec599050d

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XML View:


- <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-01-21T18:51:54.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>128466</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>yyyyy-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
- <EventData>
<Data>Fallout4.exe</Data>
<Data>1.8.7.0</Data>
<Data>5818e866</Data>
<Data>ntdll.dll</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>57fd0651</Data>
<Data>c0000374</Data>
<Data>00000000000bf3e2</Data>
<Data>1258</Data>
<Data>01d27416fe8ba129</Data>
<Data>I:\Fallout 4\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4.exe</Data>
<Data>C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll</Data>
<Data>aca0615d-e00a-11e6-a013-bcaec599050d</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
最後修改者:Play refreshed; 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:08
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logicbuster 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:02 
... theres your problem your not on a 64 bit system...
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:04 
huh? but i´m on a 64bit - help pls - have win7 ultimate, this dll is in "windows/system32" and "windows/sysWOW64" :steamsad:
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:07 
引用自 ZM | Dr. Dro #maga
引用自 bman001001
... theres your problem your not on a 64 bit system...

Kinda hard to believe given he's played for nearly 1,000 hours :o

OP, if you're on Windows 10, open command prompt as admin (windows key + X and then A) and type the following:

dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

and then

sfc /scannow

Reboot, and see what gives. This will repair your Windows install from Microsoft's online repository of known good files, an update might have gone wrong on your machine.

I have windows 7 ultimate - as u see i have nearly 1k playtime, i dont know how to fixx it now?!?!??!? :steamsad:
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:12 
引用自 ZM | Dr. Dro #maga
From your error (ntdll.dll) it seems pretty evident that you've got either a corrupted installation of the game (on Steam, right click the game, properties, and look for verify cache integrity, note that this will screw with your mods if you've got any), or your Windows installation has a major error in it. Either way, time's coming to dump Windows 7 for good, so it's the best time to upgrade to Windows 8.1 or Windows 10.

the game verify via steam is ok - maybe deinstall the game and re-install?
Raymond 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:15 
Do other games like DOTA2 and GTAV have any issues when you try to run them? If so, the problem may be an error in WIndows.

Try reinstalling your drivers?
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:16 
i entered your 2 commands, the "dism..." found 87 errors and the "sfc..." still running now
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:17 
引用自 rtukkers
Do other games like DOTA2 and GTAV have any issues when you try to run them? If so, the problem may be an error in WIndows.

Try reinstalling your drivers?

no, dota and gta stil working fine for me
Raymond 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:22 
Edit: I just read the repair errors post, just do that first since that does not seem right.

hmm, you could try _renaming_ your Fallout4 folder in Documents\My Games to see if that causes the issue (maybe one of the .ini files became corrupted).

Mind, I said renaming, since that folder also has your saved games.

For me that folder is: C:\Users\<user>\Documents\My Games\Fallout4
最後修改者:Raymond; 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:23
logicbuster 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:23 
引用自 rtukkers
hmm, you could try _renaming_ your Fallout4 folder in Documents\My Games to see if that causes the issue (maybe one of the .ini files became corrupted).

Mind, I said renaming, since that folder also has your saved games.

For me that folder is: C:\Users\<user>\Documents\My Games\Fallout4
won't help if os is corrupted... seems like the hdd is failing
Raymond 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:26 
引用自 bman001001
引用自 rtukkers
hmm, you could try _renaming_ your Fallout4 folder in Documents\My Games to see if that causes the issue (maybe one of the .ini files became corrupted).

Mind, I said renaming, since that folder also has your saved games.

For me that folder is: C:\Users\<user>\Documents\My Games\Fallout4
won't help if os is corrupted... seems like the hdd is failing

Yeah, I saw your post and those errors when running those commands do not seem right. At least, I recommend OP to start backing up some saved games/important files (if they aren't yet).
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:26 
引用自 ZM | Dr. Dro #maga
引用自 Play refreshed ©
i entered your 2 commands, the "dism..." found 87 errors and the "sfc..." still running now

Wow, I can't believe they've backported dism online repair to 7, did they? O_O

But that can't be good, not at all... see if sfc reports integrity violations, if it does your OS is corrupt and due a reinstall, should take the time to upgrade it tbh. 10 runs swell :)

both commands found errors, but "fixed" in my case is nothing... it still crashes :( how this can happen? why it want load a system32 dll???? Is there no chance to fix this without a re-install of the OS?
logicbuster 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:32 
hdd failure and the OS is corrupted from the sounds of things so best buy a new hdd or an ssd
最後修改者:logicbuster; 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:32
Play refreshed 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:42 
it´s so if i load the game, i can do stuff, i can play over 1hour or so, but my problem is: if i use fast-travel then the game crashes with above mentioned error :( :( :(
mfree 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 12:43 
The problem is with the system itself, not Fallout... so the key to resolving the problem is to sit back and consider what FO4 does differently than the other software you use that doesn't crash.

Have you updated your video drivers recently?
Use any other memory-heavy 64 bit software, does it behave?
Anything else use DX10 or the same version of VC++ (in game folder under 'redistributable', can try installing those from that location as well)

Asides from that, you might try two things here;
1 - give FO4 an exception in whatever antivirus you're using; if it's getting tagged, the kernel may simply not be handling that action very well
2 - shut the system down, let it cool a bit, then remove your RAM. Then, put it right back in.

If the DIMMs are the same, swap them and see if anything changes up. If they aren't, make sure they go back where they came from originally. What you're doing is wiping the connection between the sockets and DIMM contacts, some of them can oxidize and if they do then odd issues can start popping up. A different problem occurring after switching DIMMS would indicate one of them has gone bad.

Run checkdisk on your system drive as well, under drive>properties>tools. Listen for any strange clicks or pops while it runs.
Buck 2017 年 1 月 21 日 下午 1:42 
引用自 bman001001
... theres your problem your not on a 64 bit system...

There is nothing here that indicates either way.


引用自 Play refreshed ©
huh? but i´m on a 64bit - help pls - have win7 ultimate, this dll is in "windows/system32" and "windows/sysWOW64" :steamsad:

That's normal, there's supposed to be 2 diferent versions of this file to supprot both 64-bit and 32-bit applications.

Chances are your problem is a kernel mode driver issue, not a probem with the Nt kernel library file itself.

When did the problem begin? did you make any changes? If so, revert them.
Make sure the latest drivers (for everythig, not just the GPU) are installed and/or reinstall them.
Make sure your OS and system firmware is fully upd to date.
If you are using a laptop make sure that it's set to use the dedicated GPUI. The auto-detection often doesn't work right.
do a game cache integrity check
try deleting the user .ini files to reset the game to defaults.

引用自 ZM | Dr. Dro #maga
dump Windows 7 for good, so it's the best time to upgrade to Windows 8.1 or Windows 10.

I prefer Win10 myself, but there's nothign wrong with Win7

引用自 Play refreshed ©
i entered your 2 commands, the "dism..." found 87 errors and the "sfc..." still running now

This doesn't necessarily mean anything. Occasional OS file errors of various types can exist and not really cause any issues.


引用自 ZM | Dr. Dro #maga
Wow, I can't believe they've backported dism online repair to 7, did they? O_O

They didn't, but the versions are more alike than unalike. it doesn't surprise me that the application would run.

But that can't be good, not at all... see if sfc reports integrity violations, if it does your OS is corrupt and due a reinstall, should take the time to upgrade it tbh. 10 runs swell :)

Eh. Again, it depends on exactly what the "corruption" is. I've had first run fresh installations come up with "corrupted" files, yet the OS worked perfectly fine.

引用自 Play refreshed ©
both commands found errors, but "fixed" in my case is nothing... it still crashes :(

Then whatever it "fixed" had nothing to do with why FO4 isn't able to run.

how this can happen?

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it can't happen.

why it want load a system32 dll????

Don't even worry about that. FO4 is a 64-bit application, it does not require or use ANY 32-bit dll's/system files.

Is there no chance to fix this without a re-install of the OS?

There's no guarantee that will be a solution either. Unfortunately, we don't really know exactly what the issue is, but again it's MOST likely a kernel mode driver issue. so try what I suggested.

引用自 bman001001
hdd failure and the OS is corrupted from the sounds of things so best buy a new hdd or an ssd

I suppose an HDD failure is possible, but there is absolutely nothing here to indicate that is the cause. Don't tell people to waste money based on nothing more than a guess.

That said, if OP really wants to check the disk for errors, he can go and get the diagnostics utilities from the manufacturer to run testing and find out.


引用自 ZM | Dr. Dro #maga
ntdll.dll is part of the Windows NT kernel and this is loaded every time you run any executable file of any nature, it's essentially Windows' core. If Fallout 4 specifically is giving you some trouble, yet other games are fine, then I suppose that it could be the game itself, trying to get rid of your ini files can be something, as well as reinstalling the graphics drivers, though I find that very unlikely.

^Not exactly right, but the line of reasoning is very sound. Most specifically the NTdll.dll file is the NT OS's kernel functions library file. literally anything in Ring0 (protected kernel mode memory space where the OS kernel and kernel mode drivers live) can and will access the kernel libraries.
Fallout 4 itself CANNOT ever (and I mean EVER) access ANYTHING in kernel mode, or directly access hardware, ever. Because if the protected nature of Ring0, Only privileged drivers (such as the the GPU's kernel mode driver like nvlddmkm.sys) can do that. In other words, Fallout has to ask the user mode driver to ask the kernel mode driver to do something. At that point, because ring 0 is a monolithic memory block, unless the application has debugging features it'so often IMPOSSIBLE to know exactly what in kernel memory space is causing the issue. We can only infer that it's a driver, VERY commonly the GPU drivers because games are so dependant on them, but sound device drivers ro any others can do it.

So again this goes back to the general advice of just "upgrade/reinstall" everything.
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