Fallout 4
How is the story?
I'm eager to buy this game, though a dissapointing story really turns me off. Could anyone tell me, preferably SPOILER FREE how good the story is?
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at the start it's just you and your donkey and you wander around ,make money off shakespear and talk to your donkey alot , then you get drafted into the clan and they make you eat your donkey and kill a lion, you dont like that so you run off and start acting like a postman . It all down hill after that.
Better than 3 and new vegas granted being better than new vegas isnt hard but wourse than 1 and 2
As a father, I personally identified with FO4's story far more than I did with FO3, where it felt weird looking for my father who was still fairly young, and I was supposed to be a young adult. While the story wasn't epic, these sandbox games rarely are in order to give you the illusion of choice. If a story was to be as good as, say, Baldur's gate, it would have to be more linear.

I'd rank it as the story which hit closest to my heart among the three Fallouts I've played (FO3 and FNV being the other two), but that's purely because I have difficulty in suspending disbelief over my age. If I were twenty years younger I'd probably have preferred FO3.
The problem of bias. We don't know you, so how to know what is a "good" story for you?
I'm loving the game so far, but I enjoy games for its gameplay, not the story. Unless the entire point of the game is to be an interactive story.

This game have flaws and bugs as any other Bethesda RPGs. Considering how this game is build to be easily modable in comparison to other games, so bugs are bound to happen.

But the gameplay is way better than the previous games. I praise NV for its better gameplay over FO3, but I think that fans overrated it, for the sake to hate on Bethesda. NV is a mess of story, with an also unlikely hero. Things just happen, and all the sudden people trust you to help their factions with all kind of sensible missions. =P
I liked FONV and FO3's better.
Messaggio originale di Dr. Dro:
Messaggio originale di Johnny Gat:
1. Dialogue system - So bad even Beth had to admit it.
2. Main quests - Bloated with radiant quests to make it look longer.
3. Bad story - Find son. Choose side. Kill everyone else. End.
4. Side quests - Lower in quantity than NV. Poorer in quality too, 90% kill - loot - return.
5. Weapons - Lower in quantity than NV. There are only 4 unarmed weapons in the base game (seriously?) Uniques are not unique.
6. Exploration - The one thing that many people praises. Not good either. Almost every building is a 'dungeon' filled with bullet sponges, elite mobs and respawning loot chests. And they all contain the same loot. No point in exploring when I already know what to expect.
7. Lots of dumb things that make no sense - 'Clear area' quests completed by killing 1 guy, elite robot mobs mutating, Dogmeat can track scents from 200 years ago.... too many to list.
8. Lore breaking - There is a whole thread devoted to this.

I could point out as many, if not more problems with New Vegas, without going as far as exaggerating things (which isn't actually even near true if you're referring to the Reunions quest).

I think it's best we keep this discussion down the road in the interests of keeping OP's thread spoiler free. Unlike us, he has not played the game yet and he's bound to read all our crap. I would be pleased to eventually counter-argue everything you've brought up, particular the bad story and having less weapons (implying NV had any good selection before Gun Runners' Arsenal DLC anyway, fun because GRA DLC = epic and amazing, F4 Workshop DLC's = oh no lame BS OMFG!), but suit yourself.
Fair enough. I liked that you keep it civil, but the problem is you think that Beth's version of Fallout is the 'true' Fallout, how Fallout is supposed to be. Its not. Fallout 4 is a shooter dressed with minimum RPG mechanics, and that was not how Fallout was. Just because you like it doesn't mean anything. I like many stuff and I would readily admit some are not good. Fallout is an RPG, and RPGs are all about characters. Choices. Dialogues. Story. None of which are Fallout 4's strengths.

But enough of that. Maybe its just me, being triggered by the high amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in F4, like Elite mobs having Super Saiyan powers and resetting HPs, weapons that have magic effects, 200 yr old immortal ghouls, unbreakable clothing and armour, power armour that breaks in a few hits but can go sky diving with it.... You'd have to shut down your brain to enjoy this game.
Thanks you all for the responses, I think I know enough for now.
Messaggio originale di Johnny Gat:
'Not anywhere near as bad' Oh but it is. Its not nitpicking, its the truth. You can't argue against these:

1. Dialogue system - So bad even Beth had to admit it.
2. Main quests - Bloated with radiant quests to make it look longer.
3. Bad story - Find son. Choose side. Kill everyone else. End.
4. Side quests - Lower in quantity than NV. Poorer in quality too, 90% kill - loot - return.
5. Weapons - Lower in quantity than NV. There are only 4 unarmed weapons in the base game (seriously?) Uniques are not unique.
6. Exploration - The one thing that many people praises. Not good either. Almost every building is a 'dungeon' filled with bullet sponges, elite mobs and respawning loot chests. And they all contain the same loot. No point in exploring when I already know what to expect.
7. Lots of dumb things that make no sense - 'Clear area' quests completed by killing 1 guy, elite robot mobs mutating, Dogmeat can track scents from 200 years ago.... too many to list.
8. Lore breaking - There is a whole thread devoted to this.
9. No skills system - Son, you're not an RPG without skills, abilities etc. Every single Fallout game had skills. Why you no skills? Oh thats right, we don't need it because every problem is solved by shooting at it.

1. Yes. They tried this, failed miserably. There is a mod to display full dialogue lines. Works like a charm.

2. Main quest has never been the true point of the Fallout series. It is a sandbox. If anyone plays the game to beat the main quest as their only objective, and considers the game short because of it, they ignore like 90% of the content.

3. See number 2.

4. Well, I actually enjoyed the side quests. Many of them tell nice stories, some may seem a bit silly, but there is a story behind them, just don't take them literally and pay attention to symbolics and the surroundings.

5. There are plenty of weapons in the game. The ingame weapon modification system basically multiplied the amount of weapons. There is a big difference between a pipe pistol and a pipe sniper rifle.

6. That is what you and many people get totally wrong. It is not just about the icons on the map. Go explore the wasteland BETWEEN the marked locations. Try to find all the unmarked stories from the past, most of them tragic. Find how the people lived and how they died. Stop when you find human remains and look around, think about what must have happened there, imagine the tragedy, the evidence of which is presented to you. There are so many untold stories you can find.

7. Yes, the Legendary enemies' "mutating" was a bad choice of words. Hell, it was a bad choice of mechanics, I will give you that. As for the scent Dogmeat picked, it is definitely not 200 years old. It is quite recent, if you have accessed Kellog's memories, just listen carefully to the radio in the last memory.

8. Bethesda does contradict some of their own lore. But as far as anything before Fallout 3 is concerned, Bethesda only uses those games as a guide, not as an unbreakable lore codex. It is their lore to rip apart and put together now. We may not agree with it, we can protest against it, but that is the only thing we can do about it. We will still buy the next Fallout game and spend hundreds of hours playing it...

9. I actually like the perks system. I do find some of the perks less useful, but I have grown to like the system in general, to my own surprise. I would like to see the perks used extensively in the dialogues in the next Fallout game though.

And mods, mods, mods. Bethesda publishes a game, give it a year, go to Nexus and start modding it. My current Fallout 4 is a very different beast than the vanilla game from November 2015.

I am at 975 hours spent in the game and I am nowhere near being done with it. The best game purchase I have ever made. I have never ever spent so many hours playing a game, perhaps with the exception of the original Elite a looong time ago.
Ultima modifica da watchdog79; 20 gen 2017, ore 3:58
It's ok. Not bad but I just didnt care for it as much.
In FO4 you are thrown into a world several years ahead of your time, in this new world a great political struggle of different ideologies is currently underway. You will rebuild the commonwealth one piece at a time, and decide the future of it. You also are on a journey to find your kidnapped son stolen from you in front of your eyes, but what awaits you may addle you.

Honestly the story isn't bad if you like playing the "good" guy. Sure there is choice every now and then, but mostly you are going to be doing what is right. The real choice comes with what faction you align yourself with, and that dictates whether you are good or bad.

1. Dialogue seems to be greatly lacking in choice, in fact the only thing you might do is make someone not like you, but you will still be forced to help them, generally. In fact the system itself is annoying enough that you will likely end up dling a mod later down just to make it bearable.

2. Settlement building is kinda cool, but tends to get repetetive once you realize the only reason to spend two hours fixing up every place is to push settlement happyness higher (Still not sure entirely if that is even meaningful), and to make it pretty, and honestly I'll go play minecraft or any other sandbox game if I want to do that. If you are into it though it will definitely give you plenty of hours of enjoyment and many more with a few mods.

3. Survival difficulty is arguably the hardest difficulty for FO4, but it comes with a catch. If you enable it and disable it survival mode is locked away from that save file, meaning that the moment you enable it you are not going to be able to catch a breather and play casually. It definitely makes things more intresting, with not being able to FT, needing food, water, and sleep, and combat becomes very difficult. Alot of people say this is the only way to play FO4, but it really depends on if you like anal or not :flowey:

4. There are alot of radiant quests in this game, and it does give you something to do, but they wear on you, fast. Luckily most of them are avoidable for the most part.

5. This is just me nitpicking but I swear to god the regular radio only has around 3-4 songs, definitely download boston radio if you want to have any sort of non repetetive music accompanying your game.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9048/?
"5. This is just me nitpicking but I swear to god the regular radio only has around 3-4 songs, "...
The list gets longer as you progress, i.e. after you visit Third Rail, Magnolia songs are added. ---
A Wonderful Guy by Tex Beneke (1949)
Accentuate the Positive by Bing Crosby (1945)
Anything Goes by Cole Porter (1934)
Atom Bomb Baby by The Five Stars (1957)
Butcher Pete (Part 1) by Roy Brown (1950)
Butcher Pete (Part 2) by Roy Brown (1950)
Civilization, also called "Bongo Bongo Bongo," by Danny Kaye and The Andrews Sisters
Crawl Out Through The Fallout by Sheldon Allman (1960)
Crazy He Calls Me by Billie Holiday (1949)
Dear Hearts and Gentle People by Bob Crosby (1949)
Easy Living by Billie Holiday (1937)
Good Rocking Tonight by Roy Brown (1947)
Grandma Plays the Numbers by Wynonie Harris (1949)
Happy Times by Bob Crosby (1949)
He's a Demon, He's a Devil, He's a Doll by Betty Hutton (1950)
I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire by The Ink Spots (1941)
Into Each Life Some Rain Must Fall by Ella Fitzgerald and The Ink Spots (1944)
It's A Man by Betty Hutton (1951)
It's All Over But the Crying by The Ink Spots (1947)
Keep A Knockin by Louis Jordan (1939)
Maybe by The Ink Spots (1940)
Mighty, Mighty Man by Roy Brown (1948)
One More Tomorrow by Frankie Carle (1946)
Orange Colored Sky by Nat King Cole (1950)
Personality by Johnny Mercer (1946)
Pistol Packin' Mama by Bing Crosby and The Andrews Sisters (1943)
Right Behind You Baby by Ray Smith (1958)
Rocket 69 by Connie Allen (1951)
Sixty Minute Man by Billy Ward and his Dominoes (1951)
The End of the World by Skeeter Davis (1962)
The Wanderer by Dion (1961)
Undecided by Ella Fitzgerald (1938)
Uranium Fever by Elton Britt (1955)
Uranium Rock by Warren Smith (1958)
Way Back Home by Bob Crosby & The Bob Cats (1935)
Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On by Big Maybelle (1955)
Worry Worry Worry by The Three Suns (1949)

Magnolia's songs

Baby It's Just You
Good Neighbor
I'm the One You're Looking For
Man Enough
Train Train
Messaggio originale di Xyzzy:
"5. This is just me nitpicking but I swear to god the regular radio only has around 3-4 songs, "...
The list gets longer as you progress, i.e. after you visit Third Rail, Magnolia songs are added. ---
A Wonderful Guy by Tex Beneke (1949)
Accentuate the Positive by Bing Crosby (1945)
Anything Goes by Cole Porter (1934)
Atom Bomb Baby by The Five Stars (1957)
Butcher Pete (Part 1) by Roy Brown (1950)
Butcher Pete (Part 2) by Roy Brown (1950)
Civilization, also called "Bongo Bongo Bongo," by Danny Kaye and The Andrews Sisters
Crawl Out Through The Fallout by Sheldon Allman (1960)
Crazy He Calls Me by Billie Holiday (1949)
Dear Hearts and Gentle People by Bob Crosby (1949)
Easy Living by Billie Holiday (1937)
Good Rocking Tonight by Roy Brown (1947)
Grandma Plays the Numbers by Wynonie Harris (1949)
Happy Times by Bob Crosby (1949)
He's a Demon, He's a Devil, He's a Doll by Betty Hutton (1950)
I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire by The Ink Spots (1941)
Into Each Life Some Rain Must Fall by Ella Fitzgerald and The Ink Spots (1944)
It's A Man by Betty Hutton (1951)
It's All Over But the Crying by The Ink Spots (1947)
Keep A Knockin by Louis Jordan (1939)
Maybe by The Ink Spots (1940)
Mighty, Mighty Man by Roy Brown (1948)
One More Tomorrow by Frankie Carle (1946)
Orange Colored Sky by Nat King Cole (1950)
Personality by Johnny Mercer (1946)
Pistol Packin' Mama by Bing Crosby and The Andrews Sisters (1943)
Right Behind You Baby by Ray Smith (1958)
Rocket 69 by Connie Allen (1951)
Sixty Minute Man by Billy Ward and his Dominoes (1951)
The End of the World by Skeeter Davis (1962)
The Wanderer by Dion (1961)
Undecided by Ella Fitzgerald (1938)
Uranium Fever by Elton Britt (1955)
Uranium Rock by Warren Smith (1958)
Way Back Home by Bob Crosby & The Bob Cats (1935)
Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On by Big Maybelle (1955)
Worry Worry Worry by The Three Suns (1949)

Magnolia's songs

Baby It's Just You
Good Neighbor
I'm the One You're Looking For
Man Enough
Train Train
Eh maybe hearing rocket 69 for the 45th time finally pushed me over the edge to a hyperbole, either way it's still going to get repetetive, the mod I reccomended will allow all of these songs and more.
It's basicly the same as in Fallout 3-- plain and ignorable. To play and appreciate this kind of game, you need to like sandbox games in general.

Then it's a blast. -- with mods.

The game itself handles most of the lore of the previous versions as if it never exited in the first place. So don't expect wonders of progression of the world itself.

Oh, and it's unfinished without using mods, that correct the shortcommings of the game system itself. Bethesda only delivers barebone features, without ever finishing them.

Thank god for the people who mod this game.
Ultima modifica da Aahzmandias; 20 gen 2017, ore 3:54
Messaggio originale di ShellSh0ck1212:
I'm eager to buy this game, though a dissapointing story really turns me off. Could anyone tell me, preferably SPOILER FREE how good the story is?
Do not buy the game for the main story, ALL of the fallout and tes games have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ main story a lot of incredible side missions. Also mods needed
Messaggio originale di Max:
Messaggio originale di ShellSh0ck1212:
I'm eager to buy this game, though a dissapointing story really turns me off. Could anyone tell me, preferably SPOILER FREE how good the story is?
Do not buy the game for the main story, ALL of the fallout and tes games have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ main story a lot of incredible side missions. Also mods needed

Correct. It's a normal Bethasda game in that matter. You have to be in it for exploring the world.
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