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HummV_70 Apr 6, 2017 @ 8:40am
*SOLVED* CBBE with BS "Issues"
Ok, let me start off with this..
I had CBBE and BS working perfectly on a prior installation, no issues worked exactly how it was suppose to so I am well aware it is something I have done.

I did a full deletion and reinstall of the everything (because of other issues and experimentation), and I mean everything a couple of days ago.
FO4
fallout4.ini re-texts
fallout4custom.ini re-texts
fallout4prefs.ini re-texts
DLCS
NMM
LOOT
FO4Edit
F4SE
BodySlide Launcher in NMM
All Mods

Since then, I have reloaded everything with not one single issue and have been very careful in the process.

Everything works up to this point. I have reviewed and reviewed and reviewed online, youtube, etc. and I cannot seem to find a similiar issue to what I am having.

I believe it is because my file locations are not in the correct place, but I do not know 100%.
I do not believe it is a problem with either of the mods.

Here are the 7z locations:

CBBE
D:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods

BodySlide
D:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods

Here are the unzipped locations:
(FYI, with PC file search there are several locations for both mods, but these are the 'root' .esp .exe files as far as I can tell.)

CBBE
D:\Fallout4\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins\F4EE\Sliders
D:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods\VirtualInstall\85130\F4SE\Plugins\F4EE\Sliders

BodySlide
D:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods\BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v4.2.3-25-4-2-3\Tools\BodySlide

So, Body Slide will Launch in Loot but there are no outfit selections whatsoever NONE, it is completely blank.
I did not select NeverNude, I can get a nude body in game.
I do not have sliders on BS.

So, CBBE appears to be working as intended ingame, but the link between the two (file locations) must be wrong and I am still unsure about the sliders.
I already watched Gophers video, like 5 times, but the issues I have are not touched upon.

I know, good luck right, but hopefully someone can help that has patience.

(Trolls and impolite people will be ignored.)
Last edited by HummV_70; Apr 9, 2017 @ 3:06am
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HummV_70 Apr 6, 2017 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by HunterOfPinkBunnyWabbits:
Sorry did not read tread fully. Did you try
- Go location where Bodyslide is
- Start it with Mouse secondary button and Run As Administrator
Yes I can open Body Slide....through file manually and NMM Launch
SuperSledgeNY Apr 6, 2017 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by HummV_70:
Nothing In this Folder (all mod numbers listed but folders are empty)
D:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods\VirtualInstall\49522

That is definitely a problem. Those numbered folders correspond to the numbers listed in the "Download ID" column in NMM's Mods Tab. Those folders are supposed to have data in them (meshes. textures, etc). If they're all empty, that's not good. Just for the helluvit, pick a simple mod from the NMM mods tab and note down the Download ID number. Open that corresponding folder in the virtual install and verify that it's empty. Then try doing a file and folder search through Windows to see if that folder exists anywhere else on your system. If it doesn't, uninstall and then reinstall ONLY that mod and then check the folder again. If it now contains data, that's probably what you're gonna have to do with ALL your mods.
Last edited by SuperSledgeNY; Apr 6, 2017 @ 2:19pm
HummV_70 Apr 6, 2017 @ 2:28pm 
ok, will do. i just got a priorty call from work. gotta go

ill pick this up tomorrow sometime, thanks again
SuperSledgeNY Apr 6, 2017 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by HummV_70:
ok, will do. i just got a priorty call from work. gotta go

ill pick this up tomorrow sometime, thanks again

Work and family first. Take care.
Originally posted by HummV_70:
Originally posted by HunterOfPinkBunnyWabbits:
Sorry did not read tread fully. Did you try
- Go location where Bodyslide is
- Start it with Mouse secondary button and Run As Administrator
Yes I can open Body Slide....through file manually and NMM Launch
Same here will open Bodyslide, but it wont give me any clothes without running as administrator.
ColMustard Apr 7, 2017 @ 12:40am 
Jesus. I'm a PC purist (my last console was the original xbox more than a decade ago) with experience in pathing, command work, mods of all kinds and what have you.. friends working for fortune-500 companies in computing and programming.. but reloading everything and looking through the roots and links and all the research and searching you've already done.... I mean I was going to suggest using NMM as it's been easiest for me personally but it seems you're already doing that. ♥♥♥♥ me. No idea. I'm glad you're getting some help here on Steam but I have no idea, as much as I would love to help, as to your actual problem. I'll stay tuned though, for sure.. Sorry :(
ColMustard Apr 7, 2017 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by HunterOfPinkBunnyWabbits:
Originally posted by HummV_70:
Yes I can open Body Slide....through file manually and NMM Launch
Same here will open Bodyslide, but it wont give me any clothes without running as administrator.

WAIIITTTTTT A MINUTE. You're having the same issue but it WORKS when running as admin?? That could be a fix... (or maybe I'm being ignorant)
HummV_70 Apr 7, 2017 @ 1:58am 
So I re-read the whole discussion after a break (well work, but break from here) and reviewed the posts and checked as I went.

I know technically you can install on any drive, but my installs do not track in parallel to your pathways on my cooresponding drives and folders.

I will openly admit I do not know which files are referenced at what point besides the obvious .exe's and .ini's.

I can figure out which files for the mods have data vs vitural links. Mine appear to be reversed.
With that said, please keep in mind, I did automatic downloads from NMM and only a couple manual downloads as required and I read all the notes and followed the manual directions to the letter.

I think two things happened to cause the situation I'm in:
1)NMM autoloaded into the same folder, but the wrong folder and I swear on my whole family's lives that I just selected the right hand button to install/activate Fallout 4 only and the pathway was already in place.
Every mod after that was placed in the incorrect folder but when I went through them they all were in the same place so they worked.
(Virtual Link to opposite folder)
I didn't notice a problem until BodySlide because it's files are folders that have to be accessed when opened vs the mods that are already to the data files on that drive in that location.

2)BodySlide also auto-detected itself within NMM in the configuration tools, but since at least four different sets of BS files are in different locations and not the correct locations, I then noticed an issue because of loading them one by one.
(I did not have to configure this manually.)

Current Mod List
(Actually I was going to continue with Settlement Building mods, but got burnt out with the load/test/load/test so I switched it up and I knew I was going to download CBBE and BS without a doubt and went to that. In a way, it was a good thing because I detected a problem earlier rather than later.)

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
Snap'n Build.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
AlternateSettlements.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
Power Conduits and Pylons Overhaul.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
StaticHarvestCollection.esp=1
AutoDoors.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack-AutoDoorsPatch.esp=1
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp=1
slootyVaultSuit.esp=1
Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp=1
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1
Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp=1
BS NS BFS Merged Patch.esp=1

For simplicity and sanity, before I went to work I qued up deletion of all FO4, associations, and mods before I left for work.

Everything related to it is gone, minus 4 internet shortcuts that will not delete because the folder/file is missing.

Not critical.

I literally swapped all data on my HDD to SSD2, rechecked for any remnants, then swapped all data to SSD1, repeated and now my C: is an SSD(1), D: is SSD(2) and E: HDD

Checked again for any remnants, any duplicates (only two, Pictures and Videos which I will tackle that another day), and x86 is on C: now too.

Started a brand new fresh install of FO4 on C:
Last edited by HummV_70; Apr 7, 2017 @ 9:43am
ronr42 Apr 7, 2017 @ 4:02am 
Well, if it helps at all, your load order looks good. :)
HummV_70 Apr 7, 2017 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by ronr42:
Well, if it helps at all, your load order looks good. :)

Thanks...saved that for sure! Im going to play through to entering vault, Ill be back in a few
HummV_70 Apr 7, 2017 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by HummV_70:
Originally posted by ronr42:
Well, if it helps at all, your load order looks good. :)

Thanks...saved that for sure! Im going to play through to entering vault, Ill be back in a few
ALL VANILLA....LOL
HummV_70 Apr 7, 2017 @ 10:03am 
exe location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4

.ini location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4

***1min into the game, All Vanilla, NOT A Single Change from anything....
I have major perseverance but this already looks wrong.

Nothing in:
Documents

Location of Prefs.ini:
C:\My Games\Fallout4
SuperSledgeNY Apr 7, 2017 @ 11:35am 
I think some clarification is needed here so here goes:

Originally posted by HummV_70:
exe location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4

This is the default location where Steam installs the client and puts games into the "common" folder. So for the sake of simplicity, the "Fallout 4" folder here will be called the "Game folder".




Originally posted by HummV_70:
.ini location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4

We're still in the Game folder here and any ini files you find in this location are NOT the ini files that your games uses. The ini files in the Game folder are generic ini files that come with everyone's copy of the game. When you launch the game for the first time with the default STEAM launcher, the game will COPY these ini's to the following location:

/Documents/my games/Fallout4/

It's THESE ini files that your game uses and it's THESE ini files that you edit. You should NEVER edit the ini's that are in the Game folder. Just remember, if you have any EXISTING ini files in this location, you should DELETE them FIRST before launching your re-installed game. This will ensure that the game creates a brand new set of ini's for you to ♥♥♥♥ up (sorry, I just couldn't resist XD).




Originally posted by HummV_70:
Nothing in:
Documents

Location of Prefs.ini:
C:\My Games\Fallout4


This is seriously FUBAR. All the working ini's should be in the location I mentioned above.
HummV_70 Apr 7, 2017 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:
I think some clarification is needed here so here goes:

Originally posted by HummV_70:
exe location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4

This is the default location where Steam installs the client and puts games into the "common" folder. So for the sake of simplicity, the "Fallout 4" folder here will be called the "Game folder".




Originally posted by HummV_70:
.ini location
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4

We're still in the Game folder here and any ini files you find in this location are NOT the ini files that your games uses. The ini files in the Game folder are generic ini files that come with everyone's copy of the game. When you launch the game for the first time with the default STEAM launcher, the game will COPY these ini's to the following location:

/Documents/my games/Fallout4/

This is what I'm trying to tell you, ok, I get where ITS SUPPOSED to be, but they are not after a fresh install.
That folder exist, but there is not one single thing in it.

HummV_70 Apr 7, 2017 @ 11:58am 
This is all from an install just completed using default everything from Steam..........
it's not correct, this is the point I'm trying to make I guess.

After I started a fresh game and load, the .ini's are in the following places:

Pref.ini's are in the following places:
C:\My Games\Fallout4
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4\Fallout4
C:\Users\bhumm\AppData\Local\Fallout4\My Games\Fallout4
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout4

fallout4.ini are in:
C:\Users\bhumm\AppData\Local\Fallout4\My Games\Fallout4
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