Why do people not bother to clean up in fallout 4

[Brymsd]

Okay so I was playing fallout 4 went into a diner inhabited by a human and there's a skeleton there why not clean it up? (Please keep
From arguments+negativity I own the game three sharing I bought it on another account)

[Kalsu]

Because their parents didn't bother to teach them how to clean up with raiders and mutants on their asses !

[anynamewilldo]

the diner isn't serving food it is only a building at a crossroad for traders to buy and sell and the traders aren't living there because we don't see beds and iirc there isn't glass in the windows.

[leem]

Generations of starving uneducated people struggle to survive have been living in rubble ruins filled with bones.
I think there would be way more skeltons and bones like in the hundreds millions across the nation. End of the world earth would be one big mass grave.

[sdack]

Originally posted by Nick (KhaosDriven):

Originally posted by sdack:

Why then don't you post from your other account and spare us the excuses?! If anyone is negative then it's lazy people making excuses for themselves!

To answer your question, why are there ghosts in Pacman? Because they are!

You seem to have a problem.

Don't we all? What matters is how we handle them. Only dead people have no problems.

[GhostOfJulius]

Same reason people don't clean up their communiuties in third world countries or impoverished ghettos. Sometimes it's because it's expensive or time consuming, or because they've culturally devloped to leave all kinds of trash everywhere. I used to live in a neighborhood like that. It was filled with rusted cars, destroyed furniture, and old appliances, but some people kept clean houses.

[Nemund]

Originally posted by GhostOfJulius:

Same reason people don't clean up their communiuties in third world countries or impoverished ghettos. Sometimes it's because it's expensive or time consuming, or because they've culturally devloped to leave all kinds of trash everywhere. I used to live in a neighborhood like that. It was filled with rusted cars, destroyed furniture, and old appliances, but some people kept clean houses.

Except third world countries actually do, as do most Ghetto's.
Again, don't confuse what you see on the streets with what is in most peoples houses. That's why the rubbish is on the street in the first place.
But yeah, FO4 is very inconsistent with both it's time line & the skeletons.

[leem]

Originally posted by nevyn0ad:

Originally posted by GhostOfJulius:

Same reason people don't clean up their communiuties in third world countries or impoverished ghettos. Sometimes it's because it's expensive or time consuming, or because they've culturally devloped to leave all kinds of trash everywhere. I used to live in a neighborhood like that. It was filled with rusted cars, destroyed furniture, and old appliances, but some people kept clean houses.

Except third world countries actually do, as do most Ghetto's.
Again, don't confuse what you see on the streets with what is in most peoples houses. That's why the rubbish is on the street in the first place.
But yeah, FO4 is very inconsistent with both it's time line & the skeletons.

My opionion it is much larger scale then one ghetto. Even a ghetto has a thriving world with many people living under even a poorly organized civilization. World in a anarchy state where ghetto looking settlements are the best places to live at least there is some order. We believe as humans we would overcome this fast but it took us hundreds of years after we started reading writing history to get to where we are now. Yet still we have human slaves, war and children who spend every waking hour of their short life starving. Imagine how overwhelming it would be to live in the Fallout universe. It would be hell.

[Nemund]

And that is why you would throw the skeletons out of your room. Sure there might be a giant trash heap out back, but not 'in' your room. That's just stupid for people actually living there full time.
Not to mention that the skeletons from 200 years ago shouldn't be in that kind of good state, and that houses should be well..... gone.

It really feels like it was only 20 years the way they present the world, if even that long and people only just reappeared.

[leem]

Originally posted by nevyn0ad:

And that is why you would throw the skeletons out of your room. Sure there might be a giant trash heap out back, but not 'in' your room. That's just stupid for people actually living there full time.
Not to mention that the skeletons from 200 years ago shouldn't be in that kind of good state, and that houses should be well..... gone.

It really feels like it was only 20 years the way they present the world, if even that long and people only just reappeared.

Alright if it were realistic everything left exposed without repairs turns to dust. Bones would last and they would be everywhere and the people would think nothing of it. If anything is even alive. After that much DNA damage from radiation I dont think much life would exist after 200 years. Even bugs need something living to eat once all life begins to fail it would be a domino effect.

But..The question was why would the place be a mess in Fallout universe. I think it is realistic in a place of total despair that they would let things go. It would take time and many people working together to improve things. Hence the point of the game. If they lived in New California I am sure it would be much cleaner and civilized.

[Smightor]

Walk into Jack Cabots place. It is one of the few clean places in the world. The differance is so great that it is a little shocking to see such a nice clean place after grunging thru Boston.

[washu73]

Realistically the ruined buildings would of been scavanged for scrap roofing iron, bricks, tiles and sheets of dry wall to make new buildings by survivors.

[leem]

Originally posted by washu73:

Realistically the ruined buildings would of been scavanged for scrap roofing iron, bricks, tiles and sheets of dry wall to make new buildings by survivors.

Iam sure that would have happen multiple times with the rise and fall or fail of settlements. After 2 centuries there has been nothing but fighting in the Fallout universe. There would have been many times that people tried to group up and build only to get eaten by another larger group.

[Nemund]

And this is why the houses still have paper and thin plastic halloween decorations up in places......
No they haven't. And stuff that normally breaks down in years has lasted hundreds in a super harsh environment.

I mean yeah, it's a game etc etc. But this is an area they could have done a better job on. As it would have really highlighted the difference between settlements & overnight squatters, especially if those squatters came and went regularly (or irregularly rather).

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by washu73:

Realistically the ruined buildings would of been scavanged for scrap roofing iron, bricks, tiles and sheets of dry wall to make new buildings by survivors.

True to a certain extent, but there's far more building material than the survivors can use (the current population being a tiny fraction of the pre-war total), and recovering some of it means going out and doing the necessary labour without ideal tools amongst potential threats. Small areas might get some improvement or cleanup, but the compressed world we see in-game isn't affected by that.

I'm more surprised that Codsworth hasn't got much done to get things neat and tidy in 200 years work on a single house. I guess he had some kind of robot meltdown and simply went into denial about the whole affair.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by nevyn0ad:

And this is why the houses still have paper and thin plastic halloween decorations up in places......
No they haven't. And stuff that normally breaks down in years has lasted hundreds in a super harsh environment.

I mean yeah, it's a game etc etc. But this is an area they could have done a better job on. As it would have really highlighted the difference between settlements & overnight squatters, especially if those squatters came and went regularly (or irregularly rather).

Yes, it does look like it's a lot closer to the apocalypse than 200 years later.