Fallout 4

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Réiva Mar 26, 2017 @ 9:16am
My friend owns the console version and uses a cracked pc version.
Is it really wrong to used the cracked version in this instance?
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Bragi Mar 26, 2017 @ 9:21am 
That's not for us to decide...that's for you to decide if you fee bad about it.

But...i don't really care...
ronr42 Mar 26, 2017 @ 9:36am 
That is wrong in Any instance.

Devs can't spend money to create games when there is No money coming in to support the next game they want to make!

Plus, we faithfully support Devs and publishers who create games we love to play. Posting a pirate thread will get you more grief here than the answers are worth.

Please help us to have future releases of AAA games to play by telling your friend to purchase the pc version of FO4. He will benefit from doing so as the patches and DLC can not be obtained for the pirate copy.
Last edited by ronr42; Mar 26, 2017 @ 9:36am
Miserum Mar 26, 2017 @ 9:45am 
It doesn''t matter really unless you're modding in which case buy the game because the mod authors update their mods with the game and it becomes a headache using said mods.

In which case it's less of a moral argument and more of a convenience issue.
Nite69 Mar 26, 2017 @ 9:45am 
he probably wanted the PC version for mods and didn't want to buy it again
Bragi Mar 26, 2017 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_:
he probably wanted the PC version for mods and didn't want to buy it again


well that changes everything ofcourse. Cracked versions and mods...that's like eating a banana and drinking milk :D
sdack Mar 26, 2017 @ 10:54am 
It's wrong, because although it may be the same game are those different platforms and it requires different developers to make the product. So your piracy is cheating at least part of the people at Bethesda out of their earnings.

I find it surprising that this requires a discussion.
Last edited by sdack; Mar 26, 2017 @ 11:20am
DrNewcenstein Mar 26, 2017 @ 11:11am 
Your purchase entitles you to ONE (1) copy of the game for the ONE (1) platform chosen at the time of purchase. If you want a version for a different platform - regardless of the reason - you must also pay the retail price for that platform's version.

Your PC doesn't have to be capable of running F4 to use the CK, it just has to run the CK. However, you need the game's assets, which only come with the PC version of the game.

Be that as it may, if someone only wants the game assets and CK to make console mods, they will still have to purchase the PC version of the game, otherwise it's piracy, and wrong.

Yes, I do wish there was a way to extract the console's assets to the PC and that the CK could open them, even if the PC itself cannot. Sadly, neither M$ nor $ony will allow that, and I'm sure the devs also know that if it's easy enough to convert from PC to Xbox OS, it's easy enough to convert XB to PC. For some games on the 360 and original XB, one merely needed to change the file extension.
OP is asking a simple and honest question I asked myself a few times for I play my games on different platforms and it's not exactly clear if you ought to buy just one copy or many for playing.
For instance, once you buy a game from Steam, you're legit playing either the Mac or PC version as you wish without having to buy the game again, even if they are from different developers.
Now, using a cracked copy is a different story, but it could be just a wrapper, which isn't illegal...
Not that obvious...
Last edited by ForevaNoob Wonemorturn; Mar 26, 2017 @ 2:56pm
Rikki Mar 26, 2017 @ 3:09pm 
cracking a game in any instance is bad! the developers need money just as f.e you need money! personally cracking game always makes me sick to my stomach.. so please ask him if he enjoys it please buy it to support Bethesda :)
CLL Mar 26, 2017 @ 3:17pm 
Oh no, its totally ok to pirate games and ask in the Steam forums for said game if its cool.
And I totally believe it was your buddy, sure thing m7
bigdale Mar 26, 2017 @ 3:46pm 
You could email Bethesda and get their opinion on it.
Ruin Mar 26, 2017 @ 4:17pm 
I have to say, it's an interesting dillemma... It's the same one as whether buying a CD entitles you to MP3's of the songs on that CD...

Technically, converting a CD to MP3 format is considered illegal, as you're making an unauthorised duplicate, yet burning purchased MP3's to a CD is legal, as you own the MP3's...

Piracy laws are really very convoluted and lagging critically behind technology and current standards, etc...

But, I would have to say in this case, the law's pretty clear... Owning a game on one platform does not automatically entitle you to getting it free on another platform, unless (like Steam and it's Mac/Linux versions) that purchase includes access to versions on other platforms as well, so the OP's "friend" is indeed breaking the law with what they have done...
Last edited by Ruin; Mar 26, 2017 @ 4:18pm
Asking a question doesn't make you a pirate, just a forumer.
Pirates don't ask questions.
Last edited by ForevaNoob Wonemorturn; Mar 26, 2017 @ 11:37pm
ʙ⌁¹¹⁰¹ Mar 27, 2017 @ 12:22am 
that's really a confusing question. i started to think about it, ... after a while a had to abort =) good luck =)
Xyzzy Mar 27, 2017 @ 12:34am 
Criminal and wrong.
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