Low fps in cities on "High End" pc?

[Captain Sum Ting Wong]

My specs are i7 6700k, asus strix gtx 1080, 16gb corsair vengence lpx, 500gb 850 evo SSD,

And whenever I go into cities and look in a certain area the fps dips to like 45-50 this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. With these specs that is just plain unacceptable. I am aware of the fix to turn down shadow distance to medium but I shouldn't have to do that on this kind of rig.

Anyone aware of another fix?

-refer to page 4 in regards to title change-

[Nite69]

That 45 - 50 is not even the worst area, some areas will drop to 25 - 30

The worst for me is just outside goodneighbor, and in the Mechanist Lair level (automatron DLC)

turning down shadows to medium helped a little for me but not much

[JOW]

The very best fix for you is to turn off the fps counter and enjoy the game. Second best I suppose is to vent on the forum.

[Bacon Cheeseburger Apocalypse]

Not much you can do, it's the way the game was made. Pretty much everyone gets fps dips in the city area

[Captain Sum Ting Wong]

Originally posted by Spent Casing:

Not much you can do, it's the way the game was made. Pretty much everyone gets fps dips in the city area

No one has made a fix of any sort? :/ that sucks

[Monkerlotus]

i don't get this issue, but i play 1080p, i dont try to force this old engine to run 4k

[Captain Sum Ting Wong]

Originally posted by Monkerlotus:

i don't get this issue, but i play 1080p, i dont try to force this old engine to run 4k

I play on 1080p ultra with Reshade enb, but i even did a clean reinstall and had no mods or enbs running and it still had dips in cities. Only fix i found was to turn shadow distance to medium.

[chaosbringer42]

No type of overpowered cpu can brute force this turd.

[firestorm]

Originally posted by financially declining:

My specs are i7 6700k, asus strix gtx 1080, 16gb corsair vengence lpx, 500gb 850 evo SSD,

And whenever I go into cities and look in a certain area the fps dips to like 45-50 this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. With these specs that is just plain unacceptable. I am aware of the fix to turn down shadow distance to medium but I shouldn't have to do that on this kind of rig.

Anyone aware of another fix?

Yes,
1) Ignore the comments like "everyone's FPS dips" or "brute force" or "old engine"
They are just talking out their arses.

2)and most important, Swallow that pride and back those settings off.
Because the hardware to push Ultra+ settings will make you financially decline. (pardon the pun)

Failing to understand what I'm getting at here.

Buy Ghost Recon Wildlands and see how well the BEAST handles that game on ultra settings,
Its a bit more demanding than this game!
Give ya a hint; I can do ultra++ settings with FO4 @ constant 60fps, But not GRW.

Guess I should have made the comment about GRW a spoiler?

[JustOnePepsi]

1: If you're not already, play the game in fullscreen mode.

2: Remove any mods that edit cells. This includes mods like Scrap Everything and Spring Cleaning. They turn off precombined meshes for any cells where they make edits, which decreases performance severely within that cell.

3: If you're using bUseCombinedObjects=0 in your ini, reset that to 1. It severely reduces performance. If you have any mods that require this setting to be 0, you may as well just uninstall them.

4: Override Tesselation in your nVidia control panel and set it to something like 8x.

5: Download any of the various texture overhaul mods such as the Texture Optimization Pack. Bethesda's texture optimization is basically cancer and nearly all of the retextures out there from modders are lighter on VRAM and use better compression.

You can also set iPresentInterval=0 in your fallout4.ini and fallout4prefs.ini. If you do this, you MUST force v-sync back on in your GPU control panel or with ENB. I personally do this because the game's built-in v-sync causes the camera to stutter when strafing/looking left/right.

Using these settings, I get 60fps in most areas of the game. The only exceptions being typical problem areas such as the top of the Corvega plant, but that only drops into the 40s.

I used to get 25-30fps in Bunker Hill, 40fps in Hangman's Alley, and 45fps in Sanctuary. Then I learned about the damage caused by disrupting the precombined meshes, which any mods that make cell-edits will do. Such as Spring Cleaning, which I was using. That and switching back to Fullscreen mode restored my framerates to the 55-60fps range in those areas and others.

Running an i5 6600k with an R9 390 and 16 GBs of RAM here.

[Mr. Californication]

This game is as every bethesda game is, an unoptimized piece of ♥♥♥♥. We had similiar fps drops in Skyrim only difference was it happened in dungeons, and some cities(Markarth).

[Captain Sum Ting Wong]

Originally posted by firestorm:

Originally posted by financially declining:

My specs are i7 6700k, asus strix gtx 1080, 16gb corsair vengence lpx, 500gb 850 evo SSD,

And whenever I go into cities and look in a certain area the fps dips to like 45-50 this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. With these specs that is just plain unacceptable. I am aware of the fix to turn down shadow distance to medium but I shouldn't have to do that on this kind of rig.

Anyone aware of another fix?

Yes,
1) Ignore the comments like "everyone's FPS dips" or "brute force" or "old engine"
They are just talking out their arses.

2)and most important, Swallow that pride and back those settings off.
Because the hardware to push Ultra+ settings will make you financially decline. (pardon the pun)

Failing to understand what I'm getting at here.

Buy Ghost Recon Wildlands and see how well the BEAST handles that game on ultra settings,
Its a bit more demanding than this game!
Give ya a hint; I can do ultra++ settings with FO4 @ constant 60fps, But not GRW.

Guess I should have made the comment about GRW a spoiler?

1) i guess a 600$ gpu isnt enough to run fallout 4 lmao. If this pc can't run fallout 4 on ultra idk what can then. 1080ti SLI with a 6950X (obviously a joke, this game is unoptimized, plain and simple)

2) It's not about my "pride" its that the with the specs i have i should without a doubt be able to run this game on ultra 1080p

3) I will try some of the fixes in the ini's these other guys are saying, already have the texture optimization mod.

[HummV_70]

Only a suggestion, but verify GeForce Experience, NV drivers, and go by the suggestions of GFE.
Your rig should not dip below 35ish even in max environment, UNLESSSSSS you are running mods or have massive settlement builds.

[HummV_70]

and turn off your counter...as mentioned above... :)

[Captain Sum Ting Wong]

Originally posted by HummV_70:

Only a suggestion, but verify GeForce Experience, NV drivers, and go by the suggestions of GFE.
Your rig should not dip below 35ish even in max environment, UNLESSSSSS you are running mods or have massive settlement builds.

Yeah like i said in original, I ran the game without any mods except for texture optimization mods. and without an enb installed and it was still dipping low.

[firestorm]

Originally posted by financially declining:

1) i guess a 600$ gpu isnt enough to run fallout 4 lmao. If this pc can't run fallout 4 on ultra idk what can then. 1080ti SLI with a 6950X (obviously a joke, this game is unoptimized, plain and simple)

2) It's not about my "pride" its that the with the specs i have i should without a doubt be able to run this game on ultra 1080p

3) I will try some of the fixes in the ini's these other guys are saying, already have the texture optimization mod.

Bit more going on than just a slapping a gpu into a system and calling it a day.
As for your specs you speak off, it is only pride, because they are actually non-existent!

I7 6700k only has 2 memory channels with a max bandwidth of 34.1GB/s
And a total of 16 PCIe lanes available that are shared via the PCH with everything that uses PCIe (and thats everything) so you are not really even running that 16 lane gpu at a full 16 lanes when say a HDD/SSD/M.2 etc is active (always) or a USB port is active etc etc etc.
http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz

Plain and simple, saying "should be able" dont = can! nor does it = unoptimized

But just so you know, I do in fact run a 6950x with 2 1080's FE in sli.
Never see drops below 60fps (59.9 actually) anywhere in FO4 with ultra++ settings.
(There's an answer for #1 and #2)

Ghost Recon Wildlands on the other hand it aint happening even with that 6950x 1080's sli.
But like many others out there,
you would say "my I7 6700k BEAST should be able to do ultra" with that game too!
It isnt happening! (I7 6700k users already went there. lol)
Unoptimized? patch just released to address preformance issues as well as a nvidia driver.
It isnt happening! Better yes, but it still isnt happening on an actual beastly machine!

#3, good plan with lowering those settings.

FO4 base game runs very well (and looks decent) on some rather old hardware.
Yes I do know this to be fact because
I've ran it with a nearly 10 year old cpu and a GTX 970 installed. That = optimized!

You can and will get much better results than that machine ever dreamed of.
But ultra with that new texture pack? Isnt happening with that beastly machine of yours!
aka pride