Home Plate= Useless?

[Draughir]

Hi everyone. I'm on my first playthrough of FO4, and I've gotten pretty far along. So the house in Diamond City. Am I the only one who thinks it's a complete waste of time and caps?

You can't do much with it, except slap some decorations and maybe some craft stations around, but you can't assign a supply line to it, so you're limited to what you can scrap in the building, and whatever you can scavenge and drop in there. If you actually remember to do so.

Furthermore, they give you that neat little penthouse/observatory/patio thing on the top of that building, and you can't do a damn thing with it. Can't even put some chairs out, because you can't build there.

Not to mention the build system isn't particularly good at working with the existing architecture.

I guess it would be a little more useful on the higher difficulties, since some of them disable fast travel, so it would give you a more centralized location to work from. Especially early on when fusion cores are a bit more rare/expensive.

But other than that, does anyone else think it's all but useless?

[Morrandir]

you can store stuff that you don't want settlers taking there.

[ronr42]

In my opinion, Yap, it's pretty much useless. There are mods that help, but what's the point. You have 34 other settlements to choose from. I like Spectacle island the best with the largest build area in the game. And, Somerville Place is nice too and secluded if you can handle the Endless rain there. :)

[sdack]

So don't use it. No need to rant about it.

[NMGSGaming]

It's handy in Survival, as it gives you a handy Free (after you buy the home) place to save (sleep) and store items. Aside from Hangmans Alley it's the only city based "settlement". It has its uses due to its central location and you don't have to keep running back to Protect it from Raiders.

Also it's handy for those who really don't want anything to do with the Major settlement building and just want their own little house to decorate, like the ones in Skyrim.

[Buck]

Originally posted by Kazuo Kiriyama:

It's handy in Survival, as it gives you a handy Free (after you buy the home) place to save (sleep) and store items.

I use Kellogg's house as a free bed.

[ARmodder]

I use Homeplate as my main armory, with 80+ firearms!!

[Nite69]

Use it to store your personal gear, if you put it in settlements settlers will steal it

[Nite69]

Originally posted by ronr42:

In my opinion, Yap, it's pretty much useless. There are mods that help, but what's the point. You have 34 other settlements to choose from. I like Spectacle island the best with the largest build area in the game. And, Somerville Place is nice too and secluded if you can handle the Endless rain there. :)

Vault 88 is also good

[ARmodder]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=879501604
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=879501486

That's pretty much what I'm using homeplate for!

[ronr42]

Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_:

Originally posted by ronr42:

In my opinion, Yap, it's pretty much useless. There are mods that help, but what's the point. You have 34 other settlements to choose from. I like Spectacle island the best with the largest build area in the game. And, Somerville Place is nice too and secluded if you can handle the Endless rain there. :)

Vault 88 is also good

Yeah, I need to take some time and do a little building there. I live in the country in RL and have trouble with digging a hole in the ground to build a new home. :) Honestly, I think once I do start building there, I can kiss another 75 hrs plus of my life goodbye. :)

[Draughir]

Originally posted by Kazuo Kiriyama:

It's handy in Survival, as it gives you a handy Free (after you buy the home) place to save (sleep) and store items. Aside from Hangmans Alley it's the only city based "settlement". It has its uses due to its central location and you don't have to keep running back to Protect it from Raiders.

Also it's handy for those who really don't want anything to do with the Major settlement building and just want their own little house to decorate, like the ones in Skyrim.

I thought as much. I figured it became a little more useful on the higher difficulties. Just wish I'd known that before I busted my hump to get the caps to buy it early. Should have waited.

Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_:

Use it to store your personal gear, if you put it in settlements settlers will steal it

Really? I haven't noticed that problem. But then, I tend to carry my niftiest weapons on me, and most of the stuff I dump in workshops is to gear my settlers anyway. Anything I want to collect, I throw in a metal box or a safe, and haven't had anything go missing. At least not that I noticed.

Since I went and bought it, I may as well try to do something with it. Maybe an armory is the best use for it. Though I may have scrapped all the cinderblocks already.

I haven't found vault 88 or Hangman's Alley yet. Good to know, that after 150+ hours there's still a few things left in the game to discover.

[Draughir]

Originally posted by Dr. Dro #maga:

I disagree, I made it a quite cozy home in a pretty much central location, which is a hub of trade and important location in the game. In there I keep a healthy workshop, with all crafting stations, cooking, and my personal fortune in buffout, jet, psycho, mentats and all other drugs I cook and make bank out of.

Unfortunately, without spring cleaning mod, there's a lot of garbage you simply can't remove in there, which does get in a way quite a lot, like the trash, cola machine and cinderblocks.

I also establish my living home at House of Tomorrow (your pre-War Sanctuary Hills residence), and restore all doors, furniture, electricity and all I can to make it great again. Other locations I usually tend to work on are the Taffington Boathouse (unfortunately, the lower level is unbuildable thanks to a bug) and the Red Rocket station next to Sanctuary (which I make a trading hub and dump of generally unwanted NPC's which killing isn't convenient).

See I restored the Sanctuary house a bit too. But I can't get doors to hang on the doorways to save my damn life. Not to mention I got pissed off at my settlers feeling the need to open every bloody door and leave it open, so I just went and removed all the doors.

[Brandybuck]

Home Plate makes a great base for those who aren't into settlement building and making they're own bases. You dont need supply lines because you won't have any other settlements. You wont have supply lines because you never took that Charisma perk. You won't have supply lines for the same reason Megaton Shack did not need supply lines.

[Draughir]

Originally posted by Dr. Dro #maga:

Get Homemaker, Snap n' Build and SSEX, really helpful there... they feature the correct doors to snap in place. These mods include pretty much all you need to do it. Protip, if you want to severely reduce the amount of interaction from other NPC's in that house, click all doors, click beds and all you want and type on the console "setownership 7", this will assign ownership to the player character which should make it a criminal act for other NPC's to use it, good natured NPC's will stay away from the place. Since I did that, I haven't come back to NPC's sleeping in my bed, or hanging in my lounge anymore.

protip 2: don't forget CWSS Redux for maximum immersion and working toilets and showers with an actual purpose

Hmm, I'll have to look for those. I figured there were mods out there that helped with the system's abyssmal use of existing buildings

[ARmodder]

Originally posted by Dr. Dro #maga:

Get Homemaker, Snap n' Build and SSEX, really helpful there... they feature the correct doors to snap in place. These mods include pretty much all you need to do it. Protip, if you want to severely reduce the amount of interaction from other NPC's in that house, click all doors, click beds and all you want and type on the console "setownership 7", this will assign ownership to the player character which should make it a criminal act for other NPC's to use it, good natured NPC's will stay away from the place. Since I did that, I haven't come back to NPC's sleeping in my bed, or hanging in my lounge anymore.

protip 2: don't forget CWSS Redux for maximum immersion and working toilets and showers with an actual purpose

There is a neat little mod called "Locksmith" that allows you to lock any container, door. I use this and it esentially makes it so that no one can enter if it's locked, an added bonus is that certain other interactable objects such as power armor can also be locked preventing NPC's from taking your Power Armor during a settlement attack. The only hassle is that doors containers are locked for you too, until you unlock them again, though it takes only a second to lock/unlock them.