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.45-70 ammo?
I've found two rifles which each does more than 110 dmg; one of them does radiation dmg on top. The problem is that they use ammo that apparently doesn't exist in the game, at least I haven't found any such ammo ever. It's called .45-70, but what does that mean?

I'm level 33, so 110+ dmg would come in handy. :)
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ender_wiggins Feb 2, 2017 @ 5:03am 
The Ammo is avaiable in Far Harbor ,the Lever Action rifles are a Weapon Type introduced in that DLC same as the Harpoon Weapons.
It can happen for them to drop on the Mainland ^^
Soloquendi Feb 2, 2017 @ 8:35am 
This firearm represents the Springfield 1873 model rifle. .45 is the diameter of the bullet in inches and 70 is the amount of gun powder in the shell in grains. .45-70 is still used today for big game hunting. We used it in Idaho for bear. Packs a serious punch.
mainer Feb 3, 2017 @ 6:24am 
I've found 2 of these rifles also and was wondering about the ammo. Haven't started Far Harbor yet, but do you know if this ammo will be available on the mainland once I've completed Far Harbor?
Yhwach Feb 3, 2017 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by dransaw:
I've found 2 of these rifles also and was wondering about the ammo. Haven't started Far Harbor yet, but do you know if this ammo will be available on the mainland once I've completed Far Harbor?
The ammo isn't added into the leveled list for ammunition in the base game, only the weaponry is and it's one of the things the beta testers complained about but never heard back from.
ender_wiggins Feb 3, 2017 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by dransaw:
I've found 2 of these rifles also and was wondering about the ammo. Haven't started Far Harbor yet, but do you know if this ammo will be available on the mainland once I've completed Far Harbor?
Its the same as with the 7.62 rounds in Nuka World, you can only but it there .Not buyable on the Mainland.
Plays In Traffic Feb 3, 2017 @ 8:49am 
You can always just go to Far Harbor & not do any of the quest stuff, you'll find a merchant that sells .45-70 right away. Fair warning the Lever Action is not as good as it looks on paper, just wait till you reload.
BlazeD Feb 3, 2017 @ 10:37am 
I got a lever action with infinite ammo =)
ender_wiggins Feb 3, 2017 @ 10:44am 
The Description is Missleading if you dont know.
It means you can load every Muintion that weapons uses at once into the Weapon ,it still uses the Amunition^^
Atom.Little Feb 3, 2017 @ 9:13pm 
Originally posted by ender_wiggins:
The Ammo is avaiable in Far Harbor ,the Lever Action rifles are a Weapon Type introduced in that DLC same as the Harpoon Weapons.
It can happen for them to drop on the Mainland ^^
Far Harbor? Ah, good thing I have the DLC and plan to visit there soon. -- I have yet to come across a Lever Action Rifle, it sounds like an interesting weapon as does harpoons. The latter goes well with a Harbor. Boy, I can't wait to get my hands on one of those. Woah, yeah! :)

Originally posted by WillOfStone:
This firearm represents the Springfield 1873 model rifle. .45 is the diameter of the bullet in inches and 70 is the amount of gun powder in the shell in grains. .45-70 is still used today for big game hunting. We used it in Idaho for bear. Packs a serious punch.
I see. This is actually good and useful info - at least for someone like myself who's interested in learning more about guns, rifles, and firearms in general. It also explains, I guess, why we don't hear that caliber mentioned very often since hunting big game (and bears kind of qualifies as such) has become something only a few, dedicated, nature and hunting loving people do.

Originally posted by dransaw:
do you know if this ammo will be available on the mainland once I've completed Far Harbor?
The ammo isn't added into the leveled list for ammunition in the base game, only the weaponry is and it's one of the things the beta testers complained about but never heard back from.
But you can still bring it back to the Commonwealth with you?
On a side note, it's peculiar that none of this ammo spawns in the Commonwealth when some weapons that use it do. Still, none of the unique weapons that ender_wiggins mentioned spawns in the Commonwealth, the two rifles I found didn't look different from other of the better rifle types you can find.

Originally posted by ender_wiggins:
Its the same as with the 7.62 rounds in Nuka World, you can only but it there .Not buyable on the Mainland.
I haven't found neither weapons nor 7.62 ammo in the Commonwealth, so that makes a little more sense when you consider that Nuka World was created and added after the main game was completed.

We see the same in Skyrim's DLC where you can go to an island with unique herbs which can't be used for anything except specific quest related stuff on the island itself.

You can still bring things with you away from the island - such as unique armor types which you can also wear outside of the island, but that's all. -- The weapons on the island are the same as everywhere else in Skyrim, but they've been given new skins so they look as if they're different.

Originally posted by Plays In Traffic:
You can always just go to Far Harbor & not do any of the quest stuff, you'll find a merchant that sells .45-70 right away. Fair warning the Lever Action is not as good as it looks on paper, just wait till you reload.
Cool, good to know. Thanks for sharing the info.

Originally posted by BlazeD:
I got a lever action with infinite ammo =)
Must be a unique drop, right? Man, I'd love such a weapon. Ammo has become my greatest worry now that I no longer use .10 and .308. I get by, but I always have that eye on the ammo count because in some situation you can quickly use a whole lot of ammo that you wish you could have avoided using.

Originally posted by ender_wiggins:
The Description is Missleading if you dont know.
It means you can load every Muintion that weapons uses at once into the Weapon ,it still uses the Amunition^^
I don't think I understand what you mean by this, but then, I'm assuming it's a reply to BlazeD....I'll probably understand once I get around to these weapons and how they and their ammo work.

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Thanks all, for replying to my questions, I really appreciate it.
Last edited by Atom.Little; Feb 3, 2017 @ 9:16pm
Hobo Misanthropus Feb 3, 2017 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by ender_wiggins:
Originally posted by dransaw:
I've found 2 of these rifles also and was wondering about the ammo. Haven't started Far Harbor yet, but do you know if this ammo will be available on the mainland once I've completed Far Harbor?
Its the same as with the 7.62 rounds in Nuka World, you can only but it there .Not buyable on the Mainland.

If you put up a Raider Trading Post, you can buy 7.62. There's also a random event that can spawn both in Nuka World and the Commonwealth that has a Merchant with 7.62 (500R) available.
DouglasGrave Feb 3, 2017 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by AmaDraque:
Originally posted by ender_wiggins:
The Ammo is avaiable in Far Harbor ,the Lever Action rifles are a Weapon Type introduced in that DLC same as the Harpoon Weapons.
It can happen for them to drop on the Mainland ^^
Far Harbor? Ah, good thing I have the DLC and plan to visit there soon. -- I have yet to come across a Lever Action Rifle, it sounds like an interesting weapon as does harpoons. The latter goes well with a Harbor. Boy, I can't wait to get my hands on one of those. Woah, yeah! :)
If you didn't have the relevant DLC, you wouldn't be seeing the weapons in question.

Originally posted by AmaDraque:
The ammo isn't added into the leveled list for ammunition in the base game, only the weaponry is and it's one of the things the beta testers complained about but never heard back from.
But you can still bring it back to the Commonwealth with you?
On a side note, it's peculiar that none of this ammo spawns in the Commonwealth when some weapons that use it do. Still, none of the unique weapons that ender_wiggins mentioned spawns in the Commonwealth, the two rifles I found didn't look different from other of the better rifle types you can find.
From my experience, the new weapons from Far Harbour turn up as legendary drops because they were added to the legendary list so that legendary copies of them would show up on the Island. They happen to show up in the Commonwealth as well because the same script handles all random legendary items. I haven't seen a non-legendary version of any of Far Harbour's weapons turn up outside of the Island (it's a different matter with Nuka World, since the raiders from there can end up in the Commonwealth and carry the relevant weapons, along with a bit of ammo for them).

It's kind of a fiddly thing to solve, because if you add the new ammunition to the regular ammo lists, players will often be getting ammo types that they can't use because they can't get the right weapons from most Commonwealth enemies (and story-wise, it doesn't make much sense for that ammo to be around in the Commonwealth).
Last edited by DouglasGrave; Feb 3, 2017 @ 10:52pm
miister-spiice May 14, 2018 @ 2:46am 
I just got a lever action in a legendary drop that slows down time when aiming....sweet. Now one of my favourite weapons in this playthrough! :)
Last edited by miister-spiice; May 14, 2018 @ 2:48am
myshiatsu May 14, 2018 @ 3:59am 
I use a PC, and what worked for me was, (help .45-70 4) . That means, bring up the console, type "help" then the name of the item, then type "4". No quotation marks needed. Hope that does it for ya.
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