speech checks

[MoonPatch]

before someone says it i know that it's a % chance of success so you could pass any speech checks by quicksaving and reloading

i just want to know what's the math of it,like if i have 13 charisma what's my chances of success at yellow,orange and red checks

or is it different for each individual check

i want to kill the minutemen and i have to FAIL a speech check to do it,but my character has high charisma

[Stardustfire]

with his basic 11 my Char sucess ever in every speechcheck, even reds.

[ronr42]

I have 10 Charisma and haven't failed a speech check in a long time. I guess it's still possible.

The only way you can for sure make enemies of Garvey and the Minutemen is to do Nuka World siding with the Raiders.

Percentage of pass to fail, got no clue. Maybe Google will know. If not, ask Timmy, he knows everything. :)

Edit; You can get Garvey to attack you by siding with the Raiders, not sure about making enemies with all the Minutemen. I killed all the NW Raiders.

[Licher]

Player.modav charisma 1
do the speech check
Player.modav charisma 13
Save game.

[MoonPatch]

i did google it and found nothing

i already sided with the raiders but i then killed them after getting the perks i wanted

reason in character:didn't want too much competition or someone to stab me in the back

real reason:i wanted the last minute


well i just shot him in the face and that worked just fine
but i'm still curious about the math

[Simpson3k]

Originally posted by ronr42:

The only way you can for sure make enemies of Garvey and the Minutemen is to do Nuka World siding with the Raiders.

Last time i did that Garvey was still essential even though i had done countless of settlement help quests for him before even entering nuka world the first time. So he repeatly stood up to attack me no matter how often i downed him.

Do i have to unessential him by console or mod myself or was that fixed since release of Nuka world?

[ronr42]

He will still have the essential marker after siding with the raiders. You would have to use the console to remove the marker. Not sure if doing that would have a negative impact on quest completion.

[Licher]

Garvey tell you that he doesnt agree with what you're doing and states he is no longer your friend (Companion) however since you are the General of the MInutemen he will still support you and take your orders. Basically if you side with the raiders in nuka world Garvey will no longer be your companion.

[MoonPatch]

yeah,and then if you kill them all when he asks you to you'll lose gage and regain him

[Rendroken]

I know it doesn't pertain to OP's question, but I use a mod that changes speech checks back to how they were in New Vegas. If you have 4/6/8 Charisma you are guaranteed to pass Yellow/Orange/Red speech checks respectively 100% of the time. It removes the annoyance of RNG in passing speech checks.

[casualsailor]

Get yourself a "business suit." And use it for speech challenges and vending.

Reginald's Suit / Agath's Dress CHA +3 Curtain Call Quest
Black Rimmed Glasses CHA +1 Mole Rat den at Red Rocket
Newsboy Cap CHA +1 Various locations/vendors incl on dead body of brother shot in DC your first time there.

This will put your CHA at 6 with only 1 point in CHA.

On top of that pop a Grape Mentat (CHA +5 and 10% better prices)
Then drink a beer (CHA +1)

This will give you a grand total of CHA of 12 even with only 1 pt in CHA. You will pass every speech check except the occassional Red one and you will be selling your loot for 2x and purchasing for 1/2 price.

Enjoy.

Note: Before you do Curtain Call there is +2 CHA clothing all over the place including Starlight Drive In.

Edit:

I was looking something up for another post and had forget this was here. OP this doesn't answer your question but the numbers may help you figure it out. If the bonuses used for buying and selling also apply to speech challenges then you might be able to figure it out. i.e. if +5 CHA give 50% better prices and +10 CHA give 100% better prices then those same rations may apply to speech challenges. I'm not sure but here is the vid to show you the percentages for various CHA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12HVyVVCXwc&list=PLuzGD5C-DjX-cBSuDO90SJ8ZaJFSWLkY2&index=8

[MoonPatch]

i think buying price is capped at being always above 130% and selling capped at most at 80%

also that does not answer my question

[Ducite]

Charisma Speech check chance anything over 11 charisma everything is garunteed
Yellow Orange Red
1 5% 5% 5%
2 5% 5% 5%
3 10% 5% 5%
4 25% 10% 5%
5 40% 25% 10%
6 55% 40% 25%
7 70% 55% 40%
8 85% 70% 55%
9 100% 85% 70%
10 100% 100% 85%
11 100% 100% 100%

[Rendroken]

nice ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ necro my guy

[Ducite]

None of the steam threads had easy access to the info so i put it on

[White Knight]

It took over a year for someone to come along and actually answer the OP's question.

Now it's there for anyone who searches for "Speech Checks".

You turned a useless old thread into something useful.

Nice job, Ducite.