Vassal and Raider Settlement Supply Line Questions

[PsychoBunny]

I took over Zimonja as a Raider settlement. I then took over Tenpies as a Vassal. Both supply lines I had broke to Graygarden. I figured this is normal. I took over Hangman's and Greentop as raider settlements. I just took over Finch as a Vassal. The supply lines are still in tact. Is this normal? All of my supply lines come out of Graygarden and they are all robots. Just wondering why the first two broke and the others have not. They are quite happy with supplys coming in from Graygarden. I tried to make another bot to go back to the first two and it won't allow that and they are not in the list to add for supply lines..

Thanks!

[leem]

If you robots are residents of the vassal I think it will stay. If the robots are resident to settlement that is converted to a raider settlement than it is broke becuse they no longer live there. Settlements that that have provsioner that trades with other settlement can stay intact too as long as you dont convert the settlement that the provisioner is from. Example Settlement (A) provisioner trades with (B) then you convert (B) into raider settlement the trade route should continue. This may help with building materials needed to build up raider camp.

[PsychoBunny]

All of my bots come from one place, Graygarden. That is why I am confused as to why the first two broke but the others didn't. The bots all come from the same place.

[leem]

Maybe it has something to do with how many provisioners from one place. Not sure. I normaly have one or 2 nothing above 2.

[Daylon]

I know the supply line mechanics on the XB1 doesn't work worth beans. I had supply lines I didn't create. Once I started playing on PC, I never bothered with them... too much trouble as far as I'm concerned.

If you mod, there is one that will allow you to manage supply lines; however, I have never used it.

[PsychoBunny]

So irritating. To "fix" using one place as a supply hub I would have to go all the way back to level 19. :( When I took over Graygarden for the Raiders every single bot was there to defend it. It was an awesome fight to say the least but I am still confused as to why there are supply lines. I have verified that the settlements attached to Graygarden still have plenty of supplies to build and the ones that don't have supply lines don't have access to the supplies.

Just wondering if this is or going to mess up anything taking over settlements. They don't complain which is an upside I guess because they still have supplies coming in but I don't ever see messages that the other two Vassals are sending supplies to settlements AND I am not getting caps from them either. The only one that is working as intended is Tenpines and Zimonja.

Here is a screen of the supply lines after killing every single robot at Graygarden, 31 to be exact.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/787414679370847443/70E52D9A4751FA406500278FDF44C4D3FC68351B/

[Daylon]

Having to go back that far wouldn't be fun at all. It shouldn't mess anything up with taking over settlements, it's just annoying to see all the lines not being sure what's going on.

Once you take over what you want, you may simply have to redo some supply lines. Raider Outposts as I'm sure you know are invisibly connected automatically.

Also, you don't have to provide one Vassal per Raider Outpost; you just have to make sure the vassal is producing enough food to supply the vassal and the outposts. So 20 settlers in a vassal plus 20 Raiders in two Outposts require 60 food per day. Just make sure your vassal is producing at least 60 food and you should be fine... I never had a problem doing that so far.

I know they say they have to be close and people have said they have had problems having Coastal Cottage as a vassal and Kings Lighthouse as an Outpost that they weren't getting enough food; I have the same setup and I don't have this problem.

One other thing, even when you have enough food, they still complain that they don't have enough food; it's some glitch. As long as the food is not in the red in the settlement bar, you're golden.

[Daylon]

Oh the money issue... You won't get paid until you have 8 Outposts then you will be able to create Tribute Chests until that point you will only get paid for clearing Nuka World.

Don't forget to build shops in your Outposts; you get paid from those as well. Being Over Boss of the Raiders pays a lot better than being General of the Minutemen.

[PsychoBunny]

Ah thanks on the money thing. I keep seeing messages that Tenpines has supplied my raiders and sent caps but I never saw that on the other two Vassel settlements.

As for the supply lines I tried to create a bot for a supply line to Red Rocket, which is currently showing as connected to Graygarden. It won't let me. Game still links there is a supply line. I know every single bot was there when I took over Graygarden and I killed them all so the game is just hosed I guess. :(

Yeah I figured as a raider boss I would be rolling in caps vs Minuteman General so I wanted to create as many as I could. The only other thing I can try is go back a few saves after taking over Tenpines and then try to hit Graygarden next instead of hitting other settlements. Maybe that will break the supply chains, not sure. I wanted to hit Graygarden first but the game doesn't have it in the beginning list so I went with the two up north.

Another option is to go back some saves before I start chatting with Shank and sit at Graygarden for an eternity hiding and kill every single bot that comes in, LOL!

[PsychoBunny]

I went back and tested hitting Graygarden after Zimonja. The exact same supply lines are still there. I know I killed the bots, again. I also personally took out Red Rocket and Sanctuary. I have no idea what the problem is.

[Daylon]

Originally posted by PsychoBunny:

I went back and tested hitting Graygarden after Zimonja. The exact same supply lines are still there. I know I killed the bots, again. I also personally took out Red Rocket and Sanctuary. I have no idea what the problem is.

As I stated previously, they are glitchy on XB1 and I have no reason to believe they behave differently on PC... that's why I don't use them in the game anymore.

[PsychoBunny]

Yeah really wishing I hadn't used them. I will not but using them on future characters for sure! Thanks for your help!! :)

[Daylon]

Originally posted by PsychoBunny:

Yeah really wishing I hadn't used them. I will not but using them on future characters for sure! Thanks for your help!! :)

It's too bad it doesn't work right and trying to catch a Provisioner to cancel a supply line is a pain if not using mods and I can't stand seeing supply lines that I didn't create.

The Strong Back lvl 4 perk is a must... Sanctuary is where I dump all my stuff from dungeon runs. At the moment, I scrap all the junk myself; I don't really trust their scrapping system. I have read that if you have an Alarm Clock in the workbench and you are building something that requires aluminum and it scraps the clock, you loose the glass, nuclear material, and spring that is left over.

I just grab all the materials I have from Sanctuary if I'm going to build something in Gray Garden and take it there. Or I just do a bunch of dungeon runs and drop the stuff in the settlement that I'm going to next. I've found it easier to deal with than the glitchy supply lines.

[PsychoBunny]

Yeah I am a bit OCD over this stuff and the lines showing drives me nuts. I know I killed them all so I just won't hit C and see the lines. :) Next run I am not using supply lines.

[PsychoBunny]

Ah another question. I left two stores at Oberman which is now a Vassal so I don't have access to the bench. What happens to those caps?

[Daylon]

Originally posted by PsychoBunny:

Ah another question. I left two stores at Oberman which is now a Vassal so I don't have access to the bench. What happens to those caps?

For the most part they are gone. I have read that you can take back Outposts and I believe Vassals my killing everyone; however, I have never tried that. I assume if you did so, the caps that were there would be available again.