Flame Fan. Best Weapon?

[yuzhonglu]

Has the move set of a straight sword with the poise break of a ultra greatsword, and can't be parried.

[ressenmacher]

The AR is significantly lower than that of a straightsword, the moveset is much more limited, and it's slower. It's a worse Black Flame for the most part.

[See i've got somethin to tell]

The range is pretty short.

[Jevmen]

it can be parried, like sword spells

[LS95]

I mean, it's better than Dark Hand's WA.

[ressenmacher]

Originally posted by LS95:

I mean, it's better than Dark Hand's WA.

I dunno. Lifedrain can straight up one shot phantoms at lower levels, even if you don't have FP. It's more useful against inexperienced players than you might think.

[Sabaithal]

It seems to be only OP on pyromancer cun...zoey. For some reason her version has ridiculous range and damage.

[yuzhonglu]

Really amazing against anyone looking to parry or who presses too close. The stun effect means you can get off 2-3 hits as they futilely hit their Mouse1 or Mouse2 button. In Arena with a UGS its devastating because they plan on getting close and dodging/parrying your UGS and other pyro spells, and get surprised by the flame fan.

[⋆ Beetroot ⋆]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

Has the move set of a straight sword with the poise break of a ultra greatsword, and can't be parried.

not very good but keep using non meta stuff

[Rick25]

Idk if it works. But yesteday i was running through the game and it seems this can combo into a black flame?
So you use the fan mostly to deal the counter damage of the next hit, you can probably use the leo ring for more damage.

[Shift]

For some reason, Zoey makes that spell looks way more impressive than it really is. I mean, just look at what she does with a standard whip. If we could have access to that kind of damage, range and speed, then yes, it would be the ultimate weapon. But the version we get? No.

Also it can get parried, quite easily since the short range means the chance of your catalyst colliding with the enemy parry is quite high.

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Astora sword onehand +10

[yuzhonglu]

Originally posted by Shift:

For some reason, Zoey makes that spell looks way more impressive than it really is. I mean, just look at what she does with a standard whip. If we could have access to that kind of damage, range and speed, then yes, it would be the ultimate weapon. But the version we get? No.

Also it can get parried, quite easily since the short range means the chance of your catalyst colliding with the enemy parry is quite high.

In theory, yes. But no one goes up to a catalyst and hits parry. And most straight sword parries happen on the second or third strike, in the scenarios where someone is spamming Mouse 1 with a straight sword. Can't work on Flame Fan due to the stagger on hit.

Flame Fan's damage is equivalent to a straight sword with a pyro build. But its real power is the stagger on hit. If people try to swing or parry through it, like against a straight sword, they get just get hit again.

Try it on a pyro build with Astora GS, and it's impressive how many people it catches. They look at the great sword and the pyro hand and think "ok I just need to avoid the GS and get close and behind him" and wham, the flame fan hits them. It's basically a hidden straight sword with stagger that you can summon up at will.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by ressenmacher:

Originally posted by LS95:

I mean, it's better than Dark Hand's WA.

I dunno. Lifedrain can straight up one shot phantoms at lower levels, even if you don't have FP. It's more useful against inexperienced players than you might think.

At Soul level 20 and below...

Flame fan sucks, slow moveset, can be parried and IT DOES NOT have a hyperarmor breakpoints as UGS

[Tiny serpent Shnissuvihr]

It ain't as fast as a straightsword though, it has good sweeping so it could catch people rolling into you, but black flame is still way better IMO.

[Jevmen]

i dont realy think is usefull at all, just use the demon scar if you want combo potential and a better moveset, but flame fan is usefull with other pyromances+demon scar for true combo potential