Any decent build around Friede's Great Scythe ?

[Skayio]

I feel like building INT in this game is worthless as spells are weak and easily avoidable and not having a shield to parry the overwhelming amount of greatsword users is suicidal.
Please prove me wrong.

[Jeremy]

30 Dex with 60 Int
you can also wield the greatsword of judgement and a crystal dagger for riposte

[Skayio]

No spells then ? And How am I supposed to get a riposte without a shield ? :/

[Piglet]

40 dex 40 int 40 faith gives me 672 ar

[Sticky White Stuff]

INT builds are great if you are actually an INT build to begin with.
If you are going for a 40 INT build (MLGS, Friede's Great Scythe) then don't bother with sorceries. Use Snap Freeze with Friede's, or Great Farron Dart/Flashsword with MLGS with Sage's and Bellowing Ring.

The best would be 40 INT and 40 DEX. But you can't get that unless you sacrifice other points. There is no way to get 40 VIG and 40 END with 40/40 INT/DEX. So you go for 35/35 VIG/END and use Prisoner's Chain. Don't bother with ATT or anything other than Snap Freeze and Frozen Weapon. You do have quite a bit of range with secondary weapons to choose from with either Crystal or Sharp. But Sharp is better in this case coupled with Frozen Weapon.

This is built around SL 120.

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by Skayio:

No spells then ? And How am I supposed to get a riposte without a shield ? :/

then use a shield?

[Skayio]

Originally posted by GLUE:

INT builds are great if you are actually an INT build to begin with.
If you are going for a 40 INT build (MLGS, Friede's Great Scythe) then don't bother with sorceries. Use Snap Freeze with Friede's, or Great Farron Dart/Flashsword with MLGS with Sage's and Bellowing Ring.

The best would be 40 INT and 40 DEX. But you can't get that unless you sacrifice other points. There is no way to get 40 VIG and 40 END with 40/40 INT/DEX. So you go for 35/35 VIG/END and use Prisoner's Chain. Don't bother with ATT or anything other than Snap Freeze and Frozen Weapon. You do have quite a bit of range with secondary weapons to choose from with either Crystal or Sharp. But Sharp is better in this case coupled with Frozen Weapon.

This is built around SL 120.

Thanks for being so helpful.
So I've been looking at the wiki and it seems that the dex cap for faster cast is 50, whilst sage ring gives 30 (virtual) DEX to cast faster, meaning I would lose the other 20. I feel like it's kind of a waste, so I thougt of replacing it with Cloranthy +3 or Darkmoon ring. Maybe Young dragon since it scales with Bellowing ?
As for the weapon, I used Sharp Sellsword Winblades through PvE, are these any good in PvP ? What else can I choose, that wouldn't require me to invest too much (or at all) stats ?

Originally posted by Jeromeperson:

Originally posted by Skayio:

No spells then ? And How am I supposed to get a riposte without a shield ? :/

then use a shield?

I would need the scythe + a staff + A shield ?

[TrueArchery]

Spells: Snap Freeze & Great Soul Arrow/Great Farron Dart.
Friede's Scythe, Sunset Shield, Witchtree Branch.
Optimal class Pyro: 44 Vgr, 14 Atn, 30 End, base 8 Vit, 12 Str, 40 Dex, 40 Int, base 14 Fth, base 7 Luck.
Ring of Favor +3, Life Ring +3, rest up to you.

[miep miep]

if you use a scythe one handed be wary of the moveset it leaves a huge gap on your off hand side where ppl can just run around you without getting hit by your R1s.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Skayio:

I feel like building INT in this game is worthless as spells are weak and easily avoidable and not having a shield to parry the overwhelming amount of greatsword users is suicidal.
Please prove me wrong.

40Dex 40 INT
Also get spells, with 40dex and sages ring+2 spells will be really fast.

[Skayio]

Originally posted by miep miep:

if you use a scythe one handed be wary of the moveset it leaves a huge gap on your off hand side where ppl can just run around you without getting hit by your R1s.

Thanks for the advice, matters a lot to me. Any advice on scythe gameplay is very welcome.

Originally posted by PotatoLord27:

Originally posted by Skayio:

I feel like building INT in this game is worthless as spells are weak and easily avoidable and not having a shield to parry the overwhelming amount of greatsword users is suicidal.
Please prove me wrong.

40Dex 40 INT
Also get spells, with 40dex and sages ring+2 spells will be really fast.

Like I said there seems to be a cap (I tried the sage ring with these stats in dex & int and the difference is barely noticeable), is the 10 virtual DEX really worth it ?

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by Skayio:

Originally posted by miep miep:

if you use a scythe one handed be wary of the moveset it leaves a huge gap on your off hand side where ppl can just run around you without getting hit by your R1s.

Thanks for the advice, matters a lot to me. Any advice on scythe gameplay is very welcome.

Originally posted by PotatoLord27:

40Dex 40 INT
Also get spells, with 40dex and sages ring+2 spells will be really fast.

Like I said there seems to be a cap (I tried the sage ring with these stats in dex & int and the difference is barely noticeable), is the 10 virtual DEX really worth it ?

nope, just stick with 30-40 dex with 40-60 int

[Skayio]

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

Spells: Snap Freeze & Great Soul Arrow/Great Farron Dart.
Friede's Scythe, Sunset Shield, Witchtree Branch.
Optimal class Pyro: 44 Vgr, 14 Atn, 30 End, base 8 Vit, 12 Str, 40 Dex, 40 Int, base 14 Fth, base 7 Luck.
Ring of Favor +3, Life Ring +3, rest up to you.

I started as mercenary for the Winblades, does it make a real difference ?? I don't wanna go through Irithyll dungeon again T-T

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Skayio:

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

Spells: Snap Freeze & Great Soul Arrow/Great Farron Dart.
Friede's Scythe, Sunset Shield, Witchtree Branch.
Optimal class Pyro: 44 Vgr, 14 Atn, 30 End, base 8 Vit, 12 Str, 40 Dex, 40 Int, base 14 Fth, base 7 Luck.
Ring of Favor +3, Life Ring +3, rest up to you.

I started as mercenary for the Winblades, does it make a real difference ?? I don't wanna go through Irythill dungeon again T-T

It's like 1 or 2 SLs less efficient, just cut them off End.