Toize Valley Mine Boulder Problem and Solution (Keyboard only)

[Shadow Esper]

Found only 1 solution to this problem. Lloyd's level 2 ex sphere skill. His personal increases speed in dungeons. It's literally the only way to outrun the boulder.

To Anyone having this problem with keyboard, this is the only way for you to get passed this point.

(Can't believe I couldn't figure this out from also 80 minutes)


Original Post:

The boulder you need to outrun half way through the dungeon.

Using keyboard controls, I've been trying for an hour to outrun this bloody thing. It's literally impossible.

Since keyboard is 4 directions, 8 when you press two. You can't run at the exact angle needed to get to safety, thus it's literally impossible to outrun the boulder 99% of the time.

When you fail you're sent to the bottom and have to retry, and in order to proceed you have to outrun it twice. Of the many many MANY tries I did, I only outrun it once, but then failed on the run to destroy the tablet guy.

I don't have a controller, so any advice asides from trying ten thousand times would be useful.

[Tyler Durden]

Thank you so much, Was frustrating the hell out of me,ha

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by Tyler Durden:

Thank you so much, Was frustrating the hell out of me,ha

Glad my post could help you. Sadly it is a keyboard only problem.

[Asra]

You shouldn't really play an action jrpg with a Keyboard... This game was made only for controller in mind.

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by Asra:

You shouldn't really play an action jrpg with a Keyboard... This game was made only for controller in mind.

Not the point. If the control system is available, someone will use it. This particular problem makes it near impossible to progress. Especially if someone doesn't own a controller.

I only have proof of helping 1 single person, but that was enough for me.

[Nunakh]

Thank you very much! Your advice about Lloyd's level 2 ex sphere skill (Personal) was very useful!

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by Nunakh:

Thank you very much! Your advice about Lloyd's level 2 ex sphere skill (Personal) was very useful!

I'm glad this helped!

[「Lukja」]

People didn't use Lloyd Personal skill at all? The default run speed is soooooooo slow.

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by 「Lukja」:

People didn't use Lloyd Personal skill at all? The default run speed is soooooooo slow.

Well, usually helping in combat is what people choose, and then there's people who just don't know the skill exists.

[「Lukja」]

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Originally posted by 「Lukja」:

People didn't use Lloyd Personal skill at all? The default run speed is soooooooo slow.

Well, usually helping in combat is what people choose, and then there's people who just don't know the skill exists.

For real? I got this game when I was 12 and I knew about EX-sphere skills.. I think they even give you a tutorial about it, no?

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by 「Lukja」:

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Well, usually helping in combat is what people choose, and then there's people who just don't know the skill exists.

For real? I got this game when I was 12 and I knew about EX-sphere skills.. I think they even give you a tutorial about it, no?

Knowing about them, and knowing that Lloyd has a movement skill for the dungeon/world map is different. And like previously said, this Toize mine issues is really only for keyboard players. Controllers never face it.

[SentimentalVirgo]

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Originally posted by 「Lukja」:

For real? I got this game when I was 12 and I knew about EX-sphere skills.. I think they even give you a tutorial about it, no?

Knowing about them, and knowing that Lloyd has a movement skill for the dungeon/world map is different. And like previously said, this Toize mine issues is really only for keyboard players. Controllers never face it.

Sorry for the necro, but controllers face the problem too lol. I've been going at it for an hour. I'll just try to get ahold of the Ex-Skill, then. This makes me wonder if the stupid timing issues for the boulder is just a bug. I know some games have physics tied to fps, so maybe the fact that the modern ports are 30fps is actually causing this issue? The gamecube version was 60fps. Regardless, this seems like really bad puzzle design to require an ex-skill that players have a good chance of ignoring in favor of other more useful skills. Plus some people might just be using another character aside from Lloyd, and never even realized the solution.

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by SentimentalVirgo:

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

Knowing about them, and knowing that Lloyd has a movement skill for the dungeon/world map is different. And like previously said, this Toize mine issues is really only for keyboard players. Controllers never face it.

Sorry for the necro, but controllers face the problem too lol. I've been going at it for an hour. I'll just try to get ahold of the Ex-Skill, then. This makes me wonder if the stupid timing issues for the boulder is just a bug. I know some games have physics tied to fps, so maybe the fact that the modern ports are 30fps is actually causing this issue? The gamecube version was 60fps. Regardless, this seems like really bad puzzle design to require an ex-skill that players have a good chance of ignoring in favor of other more useful skills. Plus some people might just be using another character aside from Lloyd, and never even realized the solution.

It is still pretty close on controller, but still a tight squeeze. The Ex skill definately helps with both control types.

yeah it could be an fps issue. sadly they'll never release a proper port of this game.

[RPG Gamer Man]

Never ran into this issue. I also wanted to point out there is also a accessory that also increases speed so you do not have to waste a ex sphere slot on lloyd's personal skill.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3457327449

[Seisachtheia]

Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:

Never ran into this issue. I also wanted to point out there is also a accessory that also increases speed so you do not have to waste a ex sphere slot on lloyd's personal skill.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3457327449

That accessory is very late game, so if you want to play most of the game at faster than normal map movement speeds it will have to be using Lloyd's Personal skill, but Lloyd doesn't really have any outstanding EX Skills that demand full slots like other characters so having it is pretty easy.