So Gamespot gave this game a 9

[frostdiamond]

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/assassins-creed-syndicate-review/1900-6416291/

Somehow I'm not convinced.

[bgray9054]

SLaYeR_Griffin님이 먼저 게시:

bgray9054님이 먼저 게시:

No offense taken, but I have played the game completely through a couple times. They did a nice job building the world (they usually do), but the combat system was terrible, stealth system was very flawed, climbing and control system clunky and slow responding (this is an engine issue), and the story was full of holes and had no present day story. Lots of issues with it. I love the series, but it's definitely been on a downhill route for a good bit. Ubisoft seems to have lost the magic they had in the earlier games.

I agree it wasnt as good, it had a few flaws in its main mechanics. However revo france is an interesting period if they expanded the story it would have been excellent. They took too long to fix it. Which by that time many lost interest and there wasnt any new content to bring people back. This is very smimilar to the Batman arkham knight situation except many are staying because of the DLC coming.

Anyway like I said before I've noticed many say they hate the game even just because "They watch gameplay" or "Read reviews"

Ya I was really excited for the Revolutionary France venue, for sure. Just wish they had executed the gameplay components better and it would've been incredible.

[Odd fella]

Waclaw83님이 먼저 게시:

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

Your analogy doesn't quite fit this scenario. If you had said that the bully was an attractive female and promised you something special after you bend down and get kicked in the nuts, then you would've been halfway there.

Actually, the web is full of people complaining about preorders, especially those from well established franchises, and the main points are always the same: poor optimization / zounds of bugs / less than was promised by the devs. And when you go deep enough into those complaints, a vast portion of them is from people who keep preordering games all the time. That simply means they don't learn from past errors and according to intelligence definitions I came across in my short life those people can be categorized as not intelligent.

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

We see this a lot, internet people take something, twist it completely and then use an exagerated analogy to try and make a point. Using extreme analogys is a sign that somebody doesn't feel comfortable with what they're debating about and so they have to go to the far end of the scale.

The analogy was a lousy effort on my end to throw in a poor joke. But to make you feel better, here's this one: people who keep buying non working appliances from the countless TV shopping channels and keep doing that repeatedly, are not realy intelligent. Same thing for gamers descrived by me aboive.

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

You also have the justification battles to fight. Humans have a talent for justifying their uncertain decisions. So for example what you see a lot is "it'll be different this time round, Ubisoft won't screw up like the last time" or "its a different team making this one" and small comments like that which don't really justify why they're making such a risky decision.

Agree, but only to a certain point - if you keep feeding someone with your money for half-done products over and over again, especially when you are doing so by preordering when there's no info available apart from the marketing communication, just means you're not using your brain correctly and all the experience you gathered in the past were a waste of space on your personal hard drive. And I'm not talking about IQ here, just raw daily observations of people around me.

I know the web is full of people complaining about pre orders, I'm one of them. You can't say people are not intelligent because of the decisions they make in life. Again, they could be smarter than others in football or picking up philosophies. Ironically, you saying somebody is not an intelligent person based on the purchasing decisions they make is actually not a very intelligent thing to say.

You saw that the analogy failed but you justified its failure as a poor joke. I don't believe it was a poor joke, I believe it was a serious effort to bring your point across. An analogy I used for pre ordering from Creative Assembly was that it would be like buying from Dodgy Dave based on his word that whatever he says works, works, and continously buying from Dodgy Dave.

Every human being on earth doesn't 'use their brain correctly' as you put it. Most decisions you made were emotional based decisions.

There are very few decisions we make in life that have logic behind them, and if we do come across a logical vs emotional decision - our emotional feeling usually wins.

[Blue Palmetto]

frostdiamond님이 먼저 게시:

I actually haven't jumped on any wagon yet. However I don't see how a game could be "great" when it's full of glitches.

Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas say hello.

[frostdiamond]

Blue Palmetto님이 먼저 게시:

frostdiamond님이 먼저 게시:

I actually haven't jumped on any wagon yet. However I don't see how a game could be "great" when it's full of glitches.

Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas say hello.

I haven't played these 2 yet though Skyrim is on my list. But Bethesda hasn't stopped fixing these 2 games? Or have them. What upsets me is UBI apparently ditched Unity and stopped caring for it.

[Blue Palmetto]

frostdiamond님이 먼저 게시:

Blue Palmetto님이 먼저 게시:

Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas say hello.

I haven't played these 2 yet though Skyrim is on my list. But Bethesda hasn't stopped fixing these 2 games? Or have them. What upsets me is UBI apparently ditched Unity and stopped caring for it.

I can't comment for when they launched on PC, but on console these both had a lot of problems, especially on PS3.

On PC I haven't had an issue with either. But as I said, I can't speak for launch. I've only had these two games a year after release.

[Coldhands]

MEGA CHILL님이 먼저 게시:

GameSpot and all others got paid to give a good opinion

That's something you should prove if you're going to say.

[Waclaw83]

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

I know the web is full of people complaining about pre orders, I'm one of them. You can't say people are not intelligent because of the decisions they make in life. Again, they could be smarter than others in football or picking up philosophies. Ironically, you saying somebody is not an intelligent person based on the purchasing decisions they make is actually not a very intelligent thing to say.

Whether it was an intelligent thing to say or not, repeating the same mistake over and over with failure as an outcome without even trying to chang your behaviour is showing lack of intelligence. Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

You saw that the analogy failed but you justified its failure as a poor joke. I don't believe it was a poor joke, I believe it was a serious effort to bring your point across.

One believes what one wants to believe. Shame that a lacture of the a part which was meant as an ironic poor joke from the start was taken for what it was not meant to be - a valid argument - and further down the road I'm being told I meant something different. Again, let's agree to disagree.

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

An analogy I used for pre ordering from Creative Assembly was that it would be like buying from Dodgy Dave based on his word that whatever he says works, works, and continously buying from Dodgy Dave.

You see, the issue here is that there are markets where you usually do take the producers word seriously and buy stuff they offer you, and surprisingly things work like they are supposed to and the products deliver just what is expected. But when products have a big uncertainty attached to them, preordering and actually buying something you won't have a chance to use until it's shipped to you is unwise. And if you got burned in the past yet still continue to follow the wrong pattern which is buying whatever is thrown at you... well, you qualify as an idiot where I come from.

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

Every human being on earth doesn't 'use their brain correctly' as you put it. Most decisions you made were emotional based decisions.

There are very few decisions we make in life that have logic behind them, and if we do come across a logical vs emotional decision - our emotional feeling usually wins.

Let's agree to disagree here again. The only true emotional decision I made in my life was getting married and that was also something I gave some thought before I went through with planning. Rest is usually well calculated if time permits, and do correct me if I'm wrong but time limitations don't really apply to buying games, do they? I mean, everyone can take their time and wait for lousy critics to have their 5 minutes of fame, check on web forums to see what fellow gamers have to say, or simply wait for first gameplays to hit youtube and you know what you're paying for. But buying games blindly, even with a poor rep of the developer in terms of product release quality AND having your own bad experience? Dumb as a brick my friend and no amount of convincing can change the facts.

[cheep crybabby hatter]

Coldhands님이 먼저 게시:

MEGA CHILL님이 먼저 게시:

GameSpot and all others got paid to give a good opinion

That's something you should prove if you're going to say.

I can't comment on "all others", but if I remember correctly,Gamespot was embroiled in a scandal where they were either regularly taking money from developers, or they were engaged in some kind of Payola-like scheme, for the purpose of inflating review scores by AAA developers.

Although I don't think it was ever proven that the others do it too, I think it would be naive to assume otherwise. There's no law against it (as far as I know), and I'm pretty sure review scores play a big part in many PC gamers' decision-making (Ubisoft particularly seems to trade off its high review scores). These together makes the games reviewing industry ripe for such corruption.

[Ravagexe]

So I managed to get my hand on a free copy, played it for a while and let me say, this is UNDOUBTFULLY the WORST AC title ever came. You remember how bad AC1, Revelations, AC3 and Unity were. Well this one makes them look good. They were at least playable...AC1, Rev and AC3 at least moved people enough to finish or play till a while. Unity had co-op. But Syndicate jesus christ, had absolutely NOTHING. Game feels like one of those generic PS2 Japanese action games you managed to find in store.

Theme is terrible. Climbing industrial machines are fun for 2 minutes MAX. The ever-wondering huge crowd theme is replaced by random mobs that has no effect to game other than looking shocked when you kill someone. Combat system is as hilarious as ever, punch someone till they dies by smashing X, then counter with Y. Done.

Characters are beyond terrible that they make Altair, Connor, Shay and Arno look like one of the greatest characters ever. All Jacob and Evie are capable of are producing B-Grade action flick moves and then giving even more cliche one-liners (Train they ride is destroyed, Jacob survives and tells "Maybe I should've walked." Jesus christ...Seriously?) that make you hate them more and more. Villains are no different. Just some generic rich old fu**k pulling strings and their henchmen.

In the whole time I played, games storyline absolutely gave no excitement to me rather than "There must be an apple here lets go grab it.". Historical figures are barely worth giving a damn this time and limited by nation-info mostly just like AC3.

Musics are just generic piano-play that has no effect on any ears, which was sad as fu*k, because only thing AC left alive for me were great soundtracks. Most of the time soundtrack feels like a copy of Unity.

Overall, gameplay didnt change much. Its still buggy Unity crap here with same boring fighting sequences. Disgusting control scheme turns stealth into a true torment. God knows how many times characters jumped into open while I was commanding them to move otherside because they were stealth hidingat corners. What the f***k man? Who designed this sh***ty stealth system?

Overall, Im now totally convinced that this game is Unity 2.0 without CO-OP. Those scores are very well paid, there is absolutely no chance any game can take that high at THIS state. Removal of CO-OP makes things even more unplayable. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to waste time with this garbage unless you are a hardcore nationalist Brit nor someone with too much time on their hands...Only thing Syndicate gives me hope is that maybe now they have seen how bad Unity downgrade can be, they can work towards a better AC with co-op back. This game proved that Unity's mistake was not wasting too much over CO-OP but pure sh**ty storyline and rushed gameplay.

But hell, by all means AC's France looks damn more interesting than England by FAR.

Also one final note, one good thing Syndicate did was removing the modern-day storyline as much as possible. We dont even suffer to play those long, boring and forceable modern day levels anymore. They have been replaced by boring cutscenes but they are skippable.

Thats it! Im returning it today without even finishing it.

[lostinwoods]

This is exactly the point, she gave the game a 9/10 without even mentioning the previous games and what was cut, or done better.

Even in the video review, the AI looked as dumb as always.

[Bucksfan70]

i don't know how anyone can trust gamespot reviews.

they gave alien isolation a 6/10 and that game as flat out awesome! easily at least a 9/10

[Odd fella]

Waclaw83님이 먼저 게시:

Odd_fella님이 먼저 게시:

Let's agree to disagree here again. The only true emotional decision I made in my life was getting married and that was also something I gave some thought before I went through with planning. Rest is usually well calculated if time permits, and do correct me if I'm wrong but time limitations don't really apply to buying games, do they?

What you choose to do over the weekend is based on what appeals most, what you choose to eat at the cafe or drink at the bar is based on how you felt, what music you chose to listen to at that time is based on how you felt, what you said to someone is based on how you felt.

When you decided to have a sick day, when you decided between 2 jobs, when you bought that shirt, when you decided to reply to my comment instead of make your time more worthwhile with your friends, family, loved ones and work etc

You're replying to me because your pride is making the decisions.

http://bigthink.com/experts-corner/decisions-are-emotional-not-logical-the-neuroscience-behind-decision-making

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/intense-emotions-and-strong-feelings/201012/it-or-not-emotions-will-drive-the-decisions-you

http://changingminds.org/explanations/emotions/emotion_decision.htm

Now your turn to do the research to prove 99.99% of your decisions you made in life. What I say isn't my opinion.

Now to end this debate, we're going to look at the facts.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/anger-in-the-age-entitlement/201410/how-we-make-the-same-mistakes-over-and-over

http://completecoach.pro/2013/07/01/why-do-we-make-the-same-mistakes-over-and-over-again/

http://www.livescience.com/2471-mistake.html

You telling me you're different is basically like you telling me that you're from another planet.

[Coldhands]

Buccomatic님이 먼저 게시:

i don't know how anyone can trust gamespot reviews.

they gave alien isolation a 6/10 and that game as flat out awesome! easily at least a 9/10

Opinions.

[Ironhorse88]

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frostdiamond님이 먼저 게시:

To ME, AC II is the pinnacle of the series. To many, Black Flag is equally good if not better.

AC2 / ACB was no doubt the best game in the series (to me those 2 were just one long game) in my book as well. AC4 was great - could've been even better if it had had a fitting present day story as well. Wish Ubisoft would get back to their roots with better storytelling in this series.

The Ezio Auditore AC series was the best. It was sequential, and it filled in the ending to Altair's story (though I wish there was more to it). After that AC III to Unity was a mess (storyline wise). Black Flag and Rogue were awesome.

[Master Zone]

You know what is funny, AC:S has the WORST lounch sales out of any Assassin's Creed game ever, yet all these sites are giving it a 9/10 or 10/10. I bet it has something to do with the transgender character, by giving a game with a transgender character a 9/10, it is them giving themselves a pat on the back. Like most SJW'ers do, with their self feeding ego's.