How do I kill Lost Kin?

[andrewb]

His jumps track your movement which makes some of them nigh unavoidable and when he does the charge attack when you are right next to him, that is unavoidable as well. You just don't have enough time to move out of the way even if you react immediatelly.

[Chet_Awesomelad]

My tactic was just to focus on the ghosts that spawn in the arena. I would sacrifice attacks on Lost Kin to kill the ghosts, and only when there were no ghosts nearby did I land hits on the boss.

It legit took like 30 or 40 attempts though, it's a tough fight.

[Meredith]

Since it's a dream fight you can apply the fragile charms with no worry about them breaking.

I equipped Fragile Strength, Defenders Crest, Quick Slash, Longnail, Grubsong and Shroomspores. I also had Shadow Cloak when I fought him.

Defender crest is a must for this fight, as it will kill any plague balloons that come near you without you having to do anything, meaning that you can heal when Lost Kin is stunned.

My only combat advice would be to be patient (in terms of fighting him, not going berserk trying to get as many hits in as you can at once), and dodge through him when he does his lunge attacks.

It took me a few times to settle on that combo of charms for this fight and in that time I died a LOT. But once I had found that combo I think it only took 3 attempts.

Srs tho, use defenders crest. Keeps those bastard plague balloons off yo butt.

[andrewb]

Well thanks for all the advice but like I said...I came back to him with my nail to +3 and some OP charms like quick focus and Stalwart Shell and killed him ez. I would actually love to see a video of someone killing him without taking any or very little damage, without quick focus and nail upgrades because IMO some of the damage is completely unavoidable, especially the homing jumps and ghosts spawning above you when you need to dodge upwards or just ghosts spawning straight up on top of you.

The other dream fights I had no problem with but then again, I also did them with heavily upgraded character.

[Wondercrab]

Drakale eredeti hozzászólása:

Imo the fight is not that well designed, there are too many unavoidable damage scenario like a ghost spawning right on you or that jump move while you are in midair homing right on your location with no dodging window. Make the ghost spawn on the edge of the arena and it would be better.

I was just thinking this the other day. The repeated bosses in general feel like they were designed with the mentality of "how can this be made harder?" rather than "how can this be made harder and more fun/cool/engaging?". The ghosts being able to spawn on top of you just shouldn't be a thing, and throwing more adds into a fight in general is one of the least interesting ways to improve its difficulty.

Lost Kin's moveset is actually really cool (and I really loved the Broken Vessel version of the encounter), I just wish he'd been give one more regular attack instead of including more adds.

[.//slayer]

I just wish he'd been give one more regular attack instead of including more adds.

Adds don't mean anything if you use Defender's Crest. I think that's part of the challenge - shuffling through your collection of charms until you find what works for you.

Other people stacked blue lives to a similar effect - outdamaging him before he killed them.

[Wincent, The Hollow Knight]

What do you get for beating him?
I HATE the idea of missing out on something important just because he is a sucky bossfight.

[andrewb]

Hive master eredeti hozzászólása:

What do you get for beating him?
I HATE the idea of missing out on something important just because he is a sucky bossfight.

You get an achievement and a bunch of Essence. That's it. He's easy if you do him end game though, just don't bother fighting him as soon as you get to him.

[wataniyob]

Lost Kin is much easier if you wait until later in the game when you have more upgrades and better charms. My build when I finished him off was Quick Slash, Stalwart Shell, Quick Focus, and one of the charms which increases nail reach. My nail upgrade level at that point was either Coiled or Pure. With those upgrades and charms, I was able to stagger Lost Kin about every 10-15 seconds and ended the fight well within 5 minutes.

A streamer on Twitch had a similar build (minus Stalwart Shell) and managed the fight pretty well on his third attempt:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/127380080?t=01h23m49s

[clockwize100]

The only tactic that I found to be useful is to be aggresive. Hit him down to the "down" phase and heal up once or twice. Rinse and repeat. Spores helps alot in keeping the buggers away. P.S. Try to heal near the boss with spores on .

[HighLanderPony]

Couldn't beat him for 2 hours with slight upgrades and when I got to him.

Only lost 5 HP total the next time I fougth him with more boosts.

[Carthias]

Quick attack + thorn + at least level 3 sword upgrade + range upgrade. Can beat on him pretty fast. Save your dash ONLY for when he jumps up into the air. Only be aggresive when you can remove ghosts. Thorn helps a lot with them. Unfortunately most of the optional boss fights are incredibly stupid early on becasue they resort to "spawn adds!" to make the fight difficult which isn't really fun.

[Grinky Crinky]

Yeah, this was probably the hardest boss for me, I think you're supposed to try it in endgane. It's really hard to heal in that fight, so definitely get quickfocus, and if you can , The autoheal charm.

EDIT: Also get spore shroom or defender's crest, to take care of the ghosts, since healing is impossible if you dont have one of these.

[mlp_represent]

just so I can know how long is this fight typically I'm useing the unupgraded nail and I have been in this fight for 5 minutes before

[4thQueen]

Go back and upgrade your nail.

[LadyOberon]

It took me about a dozen tries to get this one, and my video from today will demonstrate that it can be done early in the game. It might be a "by the skin of your teeth" victory, but a win is still a win in my book.

The Lost Kin dream boss battle has proved challenging for some people, including myself, so here are a few tips. Keep in mind that my dream nail was upgraded to level 2, and I had the monarch wings. I did NOT have the shade cloak, abyss shriek, lifeblood core or sharp shadow charms at this point in the game.

Loadout is key here. After multiple variations of charms, trying out various combinations of longnail, heavy blow, shape of uun, Joni's blessing, lifeblood heart, nailmaster's glory, mark of pride, grubsong, and fragile health charms, I was ultimately successful with: quick slash, defender's crest, fragile strength, stalwart shell, and spore shroom. Defender's crest will allow you to all but ignore the spawned distractions and just focus on the boss. Quick focus will make this easier, but you'd have to sacrifice one or more of the others, and I found that the sacrifice was too much at this stage in my character's development.

The best time to heal is while the boss is knocked out and still for a few seconds. The Lost Kin's tells are very specific, so pay attention to these. Rearing back while on the ground means that he will dash forward, so jump over him. Jumping up a short distance then rearing back means that he will dash over you, so dash underneath him in the other direction. The safest spot after his downward attack spawning projectiles is right next to him.

Be patient and let him jump before you move so you can see which move he's going to make, and swing away every chance you get. Bottom line here is don't be afraid to get hit. Good luck!

Please let me know if this was helpful. ;)

https://youtu.be/AiaibMJzAK8