The radiance is insane

[nuclearTrunk]

The radiance is absolute nightmare. Spend 160 tries, only one (127th) was successful. 2-3 attacks at the same time is a kind of sucker punch and bad way to increase difficulty. Why for the god sake she's made SO HARD and SO UNFAIR?

[nuclearTrunk]

Originally posted by Sacha418:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VlrlKiNR2U

That was my first attempt with radiance (managed to beat it) maybe you can find something usefull on the fight for you

Wow. Is this really your first attempt?

[frafax2007]

Yeah dude, Radiance is kind of crazy, but there are harder bosses (Nightmare King Grimm, Pure Vessel, Absolute Radiance, G O R B)
It can be frustrating to lose to the same moth thingy over and over, so take some tips (huh, don't take this comment as the Bible, I haven't 112%-ed the game but I'm over 110%, did all bosses in radiant and completed PoH with all bindings, so mabye I can help...

-Dodges
If you don't have shadow cloack, the fight might be harder that normal, but not impossible, when the Radiance cast 179171 spells at the same time, just Desolate Dive at the right time and try sparing a bit of soul for the Desolate Dive at the right time

-Attacking methods
I highly recommend going Abyss Sheik (I don't know if the name is right, I suck at English) for the first phase, then in the second phase try going nail/shade soul (again I suck at English) and in the final phase, welp, only go with the nail, not like spells are gonna do anything

-Charms build
For Radiance I used:
Void Heart, Spell Twister, Shaman Stone, Fragile/Unbreakable Strength
I don't know if you can insert more charms, i had space only for this charms, but if you have spare notches try using Grubberfly Elegy, Thorns of Agony, Defender Crest, Dream Wielder (huh I suck at English)
Also Soul assorbing charms like Soul Eater/Catcher are really good for the fight

-Final Greetings
Oh dude, I SUCK at English, so if I writed strange stuff that doesn't make sense is because I suck, now, Hollow Knight is full of hard bosses and I recommend not to give up and use cheats, I know it could be frustrating getting stuck at a boss for MONTHS but, oh boy, this game is surely a lot of fun!
I know you defeated the radiance, but this tips can also be applied to Absolute Radiance so yeah.
Let me know if this is being useful, or else I waster 15 minutes of my time
-frafax, a guy that suck at english

Edit: If you want help with some other bosses, let me know

Edit 2: (Useless joke) Radiance is not a nightmare, Grimm is
Radiance is the goddess of Dreams

[nuclearTrunk]

Today I made about 10 tries and (finally) 2 of them was successful. So, it's over. Thanks everyone for the advice.

[Sacha418]

Originally posted by nuclearTrunk:

Originally posted by Sacha418:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VlrlKiNR2U

That was my first attempt with radiance (managed to beat it) maybe you can find something usefull on the fight for you

Wow. Is this really your first attempt?

Yes it was, wanted to record it to learn my mistakes but managed to beat it first try. I thought it was going to be as hard as grimm nightmare

[Sacha418]

Originally posted by nuclearTrunk:

Today I made about 10 tries and (finally) 2 of them was successful. So, it's over. Thanks everyone for the advice.

Im glad to read that! Now time to go to the godseeker place, right? Lol

[kanna]

Originally posted by nuclearTrunk:

Today I made about 10 tries and (finally) 2 of them was successful. So, it's over. Thanks everyone for the advice.

That's great! Congrats, nuclear. One thing I've found about this game is that every fight I've had to repeat and every playthrough and speedrun has made me a better player.

I still think you should try the secret area I mentioned in Godhome, for a laugh and for the first-hand experience. I was spoiled on it too but it was still fun to do and I don't know if I'd have ever found it on my own anyway.

Originally posted by Sacha418:

Originally posted by nuclearTrunk:

Wow. Is this really your first attempt?

Yes it was, wanted to record it to learn my mistakes but managed to beat it first try. I thought it was going to be as hard as grimm nightmare

Great job, and smart of you to record it! You can still use this video to improve on dodging her attacks and I'm sure you can learn do this fight hitless (or near-hitless) without too much trouble (especially if you start incorporating spells). I can see you've got some platforming skill with the consistent pogos and it served you well here.

[Sacha418]

Originally posted by kanna:

Originally posted by nuclearTrunk:

Today I made about 10 tries and (finally) 2 of them was successful. So, it's over. Thanks everyone for the advice.

That's great! Congrats, nuclear. One thing I've found about this game is that every fight I've had to repeat and every playthrough and speedrun has made me a better player.

I still think you should try the secret area I mentioned in Godhome, for a laugh and for the first-hand experience. I was spoiled on it too but it was still fun to do and I don't know if I'd have ever found it on my own anyway.

Originally posted by Sacha418:

Yes it was, wanted to record it to learn my mistakes but managed to beat it first try. I thought it was going to be as hard as grimm nightmare

Great job, and smart of you to record it! You can still use this video to improve on dodging her attacks and I'm sure you can learn do this fight hitless (or near-hitless) without too much trouble (especially if you start incorporating spells). I can see you've got some platforming skill with the consistent pogos and it served you well here.

Thanks for the tips and the encouragement! Quite sure I'll try to improve, wanna do that 112% I have just three pantheons left

[Garbage_Collector]

Damn, seems like you are really enjoyed the challenge of this fight, no matter how hard it is!

i'm not trying to brag here, but i found that the radiance was actually far from being the hardest fight in the game, so much of the stuff in godhome is a lot harder, with the ascendent/radiant difficulty level, the bindings, the absolute radiance trial...crazy stuff that requires a ton of practice.

[nuclearTrunk]

Originally posted by Garbage_Collector:

Damn, seems like you are really enjoyed the challenge of this fight, no matter how hard it is!

i'm not trying to brag here, but i found that the radiance was actually far from being the hardest fight in the game, so much of the stuff in godhome is a lot harder, with the ascendent/radiant difficulty level, the bindings, the absolute radiance trial...crazy stuff that requires a ton of practice.

Haven't tried PoH or NKG, so pretty sure there are a lot of harder challenges. However, the radiance is the hardest fight for me so far. So I'm trying to find my limits. Alas, it bring a lot of frustration. For example, this discussion was a result of 10 painful losses in a row.

[kanna]

Originally posted by Garbage_Collector:

Damn, seems like you are really enjoyed the challenge of this fight, no matter how hard it is!

i'm not trying to brag here, but i found that the radiance was actually far from being the hardest fight in the game, so much of the stuff in godhome is a lot harder, with the ascendent/radiant difficulty level, the bindings, the absolute radiance trial...crazy stuff that requires a ton of practice.

Yup, but what I've found is that memorizing the basic attack patterns on the easier versions of some fights made the harder version easier because I knew all their attacks really well already and so I only had to make small adjustments for speed or arena changes or such. This really helped me for both AbsRad (Attuned so far, and I've been on a break practising her fight or finishing PoH for a while) and Markoth (just did Radiant yesterday - by accident. I was meaning to start practising on Ascended, after having refreshed my memory of his patterns on Attuned, but I accidentally chose Radiant and I found I was lasting long enough from the start I didn't really need to practise in Ascended after all). I think back when I was doing Ascended bosses, doing regular Hollow Knight helped me with Pure Vessel too, but that was a while ago. Some notable exceptions: TMG/NKG and False Knight/Failed Champ just don't work like this because you have to move very differently for each version of their fights. I pretty much treat each of those as completely different fights..

*edit*
WARNING: Possible spoilers 2 posts down for those who haven't done Godhome DLC content.

[turgay.st]

oyun aşırı zor ama mükemmel bir baş yapıt 2 serisi umarım erken çıkar bu oyunu yapanlar gerçekten bir şahaser yaratmış tebrik ederim ...

[Garbage_Collector]

it only took me between 10-20 fights to kill the radiance, some of the bosses took multiples of that (sometimes over 100x methinks...), such as:

-watcher knights and hollow knight first playthrough

-the trial of the fool

-great nailsage sly

-that godhome trial with pure vessel. With pure vessel and sly, i'm including the battles in that room where you can fight the bosses individually, once i reached a comfort level with those particular bosses, i was able to defeat the godhome trial in a couple tries.

i've tried the absolute radiance trial in the godhome a few times, the furthest i got were oro and matteo, in part this has to do with the fact that in this one i'm using a pure combat charm build [without any of the health upgrades such as hiveblood, etc.]

the hiveblood charm actually makes a lot of really tough bosses easier, i think with the radiance i used a combination of the hive blood charm, quick focus, grub song, and unbreakable strength to get the win. It's all so player and experienced based. Keep messing around with the charms every time you die.

[kanna]

Don't forget you're posting in a thread where the OP may not have seen or heard of a lot of what you've posted about yet. Please remember to cover spoilers (mostly later boss names in this case).

There are a lot of ways you can win against bosses consistently, but I wouldn't suggest relying heavily on healing as one of them for the long-term. Frequent healing gets you through the game the first time and it's expected when you're just learning the boss patterns at first, but for Godhome not to be maddening, it really helps to learn each fight. Most of the fights are very fair, so once you've learned them you just know what to do every time.

The fight you mentioned being stuck on should be really easy by the time you do PoH. If you're rusty from doing the other pantheons though, there's always the Hall of Gods. Also, going for bindings on the first four pantheons can help a lot not only because of the reward from it but because of the practice from redoing the earlier pantheons.

[Vallies]

Life happens. So do pickles. Dill with it.

[leki]

Oh boy, im not even familiar with Radiance and this... Helps me out and scares me lol