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Wel Wyrmin 2018 年 8 月 27 日 上午 9:30
How on bloody earth do you defeat ascended Markoth?
This monstrosity is much harder than nightmare king grimm for gods sake! At least Grimm has clear pattern instead of spamming his attacks and defense until you die. Oh did I forget to mention you don't have a proper ground to stand on and there are nearly 0 openings if you're not willing to trade damage? Not to mention his shields are ALWAYS in your face...
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Mr. Beartato 2018 年 8 月 27 日 上午 9:44 
If you get lucky he gets stuck under a platform when his shield spin attack happens and you can free kill him before he even gets to spawn a second shield.

That's how I beat him at least... other than that I think he's a tad too hard - he doesn't really have many openings, usually only when he uses the shield spin attack. But his health got nerfed in the Beta, so it's a bit better I'd say.
xXObese_RatXx 2018 年 8 月 27 日 下午 12:27 
Make dodging your number one priority and get hits in when you can. Heal when he does his spin attack by running to the far left or right of the stage.

That's how I do it, but yeah it caught me off guard when they took the ground away.
Rem 2018 年 9 月 4 日 下午 7:41 
The fight is the only fight in the game that is utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Having a luck based boss is fine. Breaking a boss's mechanics once in awhile is fine. But when you put that boss at the back end of a thirty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minute gauntlet of other bosses, you cross the line. This boss has no business being in a pantheon, because it is impossible to beat this boss CONSISTENTLY with a charm loadout that isn't specifically chosen for this fight. Charming up for the fight against this cockstain ruins my charm loadout for the other fights, which ruins the 45 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minute gauntlet that I have to start FROM THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BEGINNING. THIS IS NOT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ COOL, TEAM CHERRY.
DJDiceZ 2018 年 9 月 4 日 下午 8:35 
引用自 Shrooman
Oh did I forget to mention you don't have a proper ground to stand on and there are nearly 0 openings if you're not willing to trade damage? Not to mention his shields are ALWAYS in your face...

I feel your pain and share this sentiment. This part specifically.

Don't forget the walls for extra mobility, and your spells for the second phase. It's not even worth healing to be honest (when fighting him in the Halls of gods, he deals only one hit in the pantheon so go for heals if you want there). Go for nail hits only when you have a good angle, and his shield spinning at least makes him immobile and not throw stuff at you for a few seconds so you get a bit more room to do what you want. You can wait out that attack if you're more comfortable with it, and ignore it if you aren't.

引用自 quoththesailor
The fight is the only fight in the game that is utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Having a luck based boss is fine. Breaking a boss's mechanics once in awhile is fine. But when you put that boss at the back end of a thirty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minute gauntlet of other bosses, you cross the line. This boss has no business being in a pantheon, because it is impossible to beat this boss CONSISTENTLY with a charm loadout that isn't specifically chosen for this fight. Charming up for the fight against this cockstain ruins my charm loadout for the other fights, which ruins the 45 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ minute gauntlet that I have to start FROM THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BEGINNING. THIS IS NOT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ COOL, TEAM CHERRY.

I wouldn't say having a luck based boss is fine, but removing the floor as a questionable way of increasing difficutly is definitely a design move that has me raising an eyebrow. I definitely don't like such decision.

Thanksfully there's a bench right before him, and the next one is right before PV, so if you want to change your loadout, you get a good opportunity... though you still gotta deal with some of the strongest bosses with said build, like NKG.

Maybe nail arts can help?
最后由 DJDiceZ 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 4 日 下午 8:36
Syndiciate 2018 年 9 月 4 日 下午 11:58 
Equip: Shaman Stone, Grubsong, Spell Twister, Quick Focus and Soul Catcher.

Be patient on his first phase and try not to take too much damage so you have a full or nearly full soul container during his second phase. Once he gets to his second phase, try spam him with as many spells as you can and try not to get hit. He should be near death by that point if you landed most of your shot so all you have to do is get a few hits in with your nail and you're done.
最后由 Syndiciate 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 14 日 下午 1:52
IHeartMicroplastics 2018 年 9 月 13 日 下午 11:57 
this fight is straight ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I feel like the conversation in making the ascended version went like this:
"So, how do we make it harder?"
"Just remove the floor, the player has to figure out how to beat it, good luck"
Not only this, but the way you take damage isn't from his attacks. It's from him moving in your general direction which is completely luck whether or not that happens. And the nails that he spawns often spawn on top of you especially if you're dashing or falling which also sucks. Why on Earth did they put this into the pantheon of hallownest at the end?
最后由 IHeartMicroplastics 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 14 日 上午 12:02
IKR? I have Radiant Pure Vessel, and am getting really close to Ascended Nightmare King.
The ones I'm struggling with the most on Ascended are Markoth, Sly, and the Radiance.

Sly isn't normally too bad, its when he does double damage that he becomes a problem.
The Radiance I have beaten ONCE on Attuned, but that was mostly thanks to really lucky RNG.
I just hate Ascended Markoth so much, nothing I do seems to work against his BS.

I tried a summoner build, but the platforms are way to small for Weaversong to be of help unless I am directly above him at all times, and Glowing Womb keeps targeting the shield instead of Markoth.
I tried a few spellcaster builds, but Dreamwielder is useless against him, so I have to use Soul Catcher/Eater instead. Then I have the problem of hitting him enough to cast while having to avoid his shield and nails(both of which get twice as dangerous in phase 2), aswell as making sure I don't fall.
thorin.hannahs 2018 年 9 月 14 日 上午 8:16 
My charms were and still are Strength, Long Nail, Shaman Stone, Spell Twister and Sprint Master. The first phase is fairly easy and gives you plenty of time to heal when he shield spins. As others have mentioned though you shouldn't bother with healing. Take that first phase as your opportunity to get Markoth's rhythm down. When he is going to move towards you or just move in general, when his shield is going to stop and start rotating the other way, the frequency of his lance summons and when he is going to do his stationary outward shield spin. My strat for Ascended Markoth was to utilize Great Slash as much as possible (only actually). It is a great tool that allows you to deal damage and control space so he and his shield don't hit you because the range and kncokback are noticeable. When he does his stationary shield spin that is the best time to deal damage once you have figured out the way it spirals away from him and towards him. It is difficult to explain but on the rotations out it is always going to be further away than on the same rotation in so memorizing that is key to your spacing for your dps. The 2nd phase is where everyone says to spam spells preferably have him shield spinning above you so you can abyss shriek him to death. If you have GPZ problems like me and want to save soul for that fight in a pantheon of hallownest run then you can still use great slash to beat him in his 2nd phase. Rules of thumb are to not get to fast with dodging since you can make the screen move and lose sight of a lance as well as try not to do any back track dodging because of the way the spears alter their trajectory before launching might catch you. Don't overcommit your movement options when dodging in case he decides to switch his shield rotation or float in an unpredicted direction. Also never approach Markoth to attack without knowing where each shield is and which direction they are spinning, so if he is above, below or off to the side in a way where he is not fully on screen be careful. That is all I have after plugging a few hours into him on Ascended made the Pantheon of Hallownest version a cakewalk.
Obamanation 2018 年 9 月 14 日 上午 8:19 
You can force download the beta patch, in which Markoth has had is HP reduced. (Or you can wait for the patch to go live). This should make it significantly easier.

Otherwise as suggested before, for ascended/radiant Markoth, your best bet is to go full spell build, then build soul by using nail only in p1, and then nuke from safety in p2. This should kill him or close to. (This also works well for Collector ascended/radiant.)

Some of the hardest bosses, run killer's and all bindings pains are Collector, Zote, Markoth and AR. All bosses that are RNG heavy. You know something is up when mid pantheon bosses are more unsettling than NKG or PV.
esco1979 2018 年 9 月 14 日 上午 11:30 
I put an entire guide up in detail on how to beat him in the forums on Radiant mode. Search for it.
Appaguchee 2018 年 9 月 14 日 下午 2:21 
If you equip mark of pride and longnail, if you hit his sheild from really close the hitbox extends past it and can hit him through the sheild. Don't let fighting be your no.1 priority though. Dodge the nails and take the fight slow. Abyss shriek with soul, because healing doesn't work in this fight. I suggest hiveblood or a lifeblood based build.
Songbird 2018 年 9 月 14 日 下午 9:38 
Use nail arts. Great slash hits him through his shields. Dash slash hits him from WAY outside his shields. Do not ever go inside his shield radius except when he only has one shield and it's been sent far away from him, if you value consistency.

Play very slowly. Stand still, wait for the next nail to target, then jump in a calculated way so you don't remain in the nail's path. If you're near the edge of the screen and you don't see it, assume it's offscreen. You can take as long as you want; nails are very unlikely to hit you unless you rush.

If you want, you can just wait for Markoth to stop summoning nails to do his shield spin attack, dash through its orbit as it expands outward, and hit him with a dash slash/great slash followed by another great slash, then dash out.

Once you get to the second phase, use Shade Soul when he's pretty far away from you to get double hits. Dash slash if you can't win with Shade Soul alone.
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