Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

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Killka Sep 26, 2019 @ 9:10am
New to Dragons Dogma, need some tips
As title say im a pleb at the game x'D

im currently lvl 24 but i cant find any "good" gear and i takes like 70+ shoots with my bow to even kill some monsters now. the only thing that deals "DMG" to enemies are my pawns.....

do anyone have tips on how to get gear thats good for my Ranger? or tips in general would be awesome, thanks in advance <3 <3

IGN:Horizon LvL 24 Ranger Female hire me if you want ^^' <3
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zadymek Sep 26, 2019 @ 9:37am 
1. Listen to Pawn advices. They learn (actually unlock, but who cares? ;) new tactics against enemies as you fight more and more and assisst not only with their strength but also knowledge.

2. Early game spend travelling in full party, hire all Pawns possible.

3. Early game you rely mostly on your core stats, but as you progress through the main quest new gear will be available at merchants and peddlers. And there are even quests to upgrade their stock.

Also, some quests have equipment for a reward.

Apart from this you have to be really lucky/exploit-ative to find something good in chests and gather spots - stil it is an option.

Good Ranger gear you will find at Hillfigure Knoll area in a gather spot at the tip of a spear drawn on a hill there are nice daggers.
Getting good longbow is more complicated, there are some at the Nothface Forest and Soulflayer Canyon that you probably didn't even reach yet. I'd advise enhancing your current bow and using Dire/Deathly Arrow rather than searching for gear - the skill/s have magnifficent scaling and you should handle any mid-game enemy with this, especially if you aim at weak spots - and even more effective with Crippling Arrow applied to these.

Use Flying/ Fearful Din as a crowd control so you'd have clear shot with Dire/Deathly.

And if you have enhchanter in your Party Sixfold/Tenfold Flurry will be great.

If you have Meteor/Comet shot you can snipe enemies from afar and this way score bonus damage for surprise attack.

4. Oh, and don't forget to enhance your gear too. This way you not only improve its stats but also add new properties.
EDIT Did I mention you only need one piece of resource to be able to enhance anything that needs it? Just use Forger at the Black Cat at Gran Soren to duplicate anything you need.
Last edited by zadymek; Sep 26, 2019 @ 9:39am
Guh~hey~hey~♫ Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:16am 
Depends.... you just want to upgrade your weaponry or you wanna become so OP you'll roll over anything the game has to offer, given that you learn how to use your stuff and class properly too...

For the first one:
https://youtu.be/4t4Py7XoN_E?list=PLrZgsrY1mV1mnQgJWC2Wm557DjZrGNO_7

For the second one:
https://youtu.be/WXgzNWqtDoY
skip the condamned gorecyclop part... kill gazer and death first, it's way faster and doesnt require a special character set-up. Then you can handle the gorecyclops "normally" and with the quest to kill it for even more reward and exp.

To learn how to use things and kill stuff "normally", here the best sources:

- More generalist and focused on balanced gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbdJQRwuWl0CvsBx6XCsKdA

- Focused on magick classes and optimised gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZSazQkanwU8oJ2sctVCFwA
Last edited by Guh~hey~hey~♫; Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:19am
Killka Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:26am 
thanks alot for the tips <3 this will help me :3
Sabaithal Sep 26, 2019 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by Charles Darwin:
Don't power level like the second dude suggested. Instead, play the game at your pace; explore, try different vocations, etc. There is no rush.

Also, Zadymek offers better advice in general, so listen to him.
+1 games are to be enjoyed. Only start power levelling when you have already explored to your hearts content, are bored, and are wanting to get stronger for a higher tier area (like BBI).
Guh~hey~hey~♫ Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:23pm 
BBi even on hardmode doesnt require any powerleveling, just skill (aka git guud).

Actually in the video, bbi IS used to powerlevel, but the place where you do the powerleveling is almost at the end of BBi, and the video mostly shows how to get there from a very low level and on hardmode...

But what's the most important is the last part of the video, the farming of BBi stuff part because.....

...the thread isnt about "powerleveling: is it good or is it bad to do so", OP is probably able to decid for himself what he find enjoyable, it's about where and how to get better gear, and by extension, how to get it as fast as possible.

The powerleveling purpose here isnt necessary and is just to make the farming easier and faster. Also the second purpose of hardmode, beside the double exp, is the double RC rewards which is necessary to quickly purify the BBi cursed items....


So dont derail the subject and go make your own thread about powerleveling....
Last edited by Guh~hey~hey~♫; Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:24pm
Sabaithal Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by ゴリ博士:
BBi even on hardmode doesnt require any powerleveling, just skill (aka git guud).
Yeah, you can skill a cursed dragon to death at level 10. Still going to be tedious as hell because you're attacking it with a toothpick.
Last edited by Sabaithal; Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:44pm
Guh~hey~hey~♫ Sep 26, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
at level 10 you don tmess with cursed dragon. The only one you need to kill to progress further is the one with the dark bishop, at that point on hardmode you are already WAY over level 10 (you supposedly already killed Gazer and Death, so you are at least level 76), and that version of the cursed dragon is a very nerfed one that falls in a few throwblasts hits or a single skill with a BBi weapon level 1 (and at that point you've already looted a handfull of them)...

You can skill anything at any level in DDDA, that's what make the game entertaining.

Just to illustrate my point a little.
Condamned gorecyclop, hardmode, solo and naked at level 17:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1843133806

Same fashion but slightly higher level. Death, hardmode, solo, around level 50 (that's where Gazer gets you when you kill it on hardmode before level 30)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1843903549

Elder ogre, solo, hardmode, blah blah blah... level shown on the picture
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845294075

Blah blah blah, solo, etc... right before the ogre fight (point was to dragon forge newly acquired bbi stuff and some rusted weapons)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845294011

All you need is to beat the defense thresold of ennemies, with a better weapon or throwblasts. In hard mode ennemies dont get more defense nor more HPs compared to normal mode, you only take double damage from their attacks and use double stamina. If you can dodge all their attacks and use your stamina sparringly, there's little difference with normal mod, except the reward for beating them which is also doubled.
Last edited by Guh~hey~hey~♫; Sep 26, 2019 @ 4:43pm
Sabaithal Sep 26, 2019 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by ゴリ博士:
at level 10 you don tmess with cursed dragon. The only one you need to kill to progress further is the one with the dark bishop, at that point on hardmode you are already WAY over level 10 (you supposedly already killed Gazer and Death, so you are at least level 76), and that version of the cursed dragon is a very nerfed one that falls in a few throwblasts hits...

You can skill anything at any level in DDDA, that's what make the game entertaining.

Just to illustrate my point a little.
Condamned gorecyclop, hardmode, solo and naked at level 17:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1843133806

Same fashion but slightly higher level. Death, hardmode, solo, around level 50 (that's where Gazer gets you when you kill it on hardmode before level 30)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1843903549

Elder ogre, solo, hardmode, blah blah blah... level shown on the picture
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845294075

Blah blah blah, solo, ect... right before the ogre fight
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1845294011

All you need is to beat the defense thresold of ennemies, with a better weapon or throwblasts. In hard mode ennemies dont get more defense nor more HPs compared to normal mode, you only take double damage from their attacks and use double stamina. If you can dodge all their attacks and use your stamina sparringly, there's little difference with normal mod, except the reward for beating them which is also doubled.
Levelling up is all well and good...but you're still using the same toothpick your started off with in this scenario, unless you happened upon a better weapon.
Sabaithal Sep 26, 2019 @ 4:22pm 
Oh here we go..
Guh~hey~hey~♫ Sep 26, 2019 @ 4:27pm 
that's the all point of this thread. Getting something better than the toothpick you start with. And BBi is the best place to do so. Leveling up is just a mean to do so or a consequence, since it's an rpg killing stuff level you up....

But that's also the reason why I linked 2 video.
First one is to gather casually casual, while still better, stuff without having to kill anything for it, and so without getting overleveled doing so.
Second one is to get the absolute best gear in slot, which comes with having to kill some utlimate bosses and get the exp and levels that come with doing so.

That's up to the OP to decid if he think it's better to stick to the first one or to go all the way with the second one, and that's kinda the point of his thread.

But about enjoying the game.... I hardly find it enjoyable to kill thousands of underleveled wolves, gobelins and cyclops on easy/normal mode to get enough vocation points and a high level before going to BBi....

On the other hand I find it especially entertaining to go to bbi on hard mode as soon as I hit level 10 and complete it twice (pre and post daimon) before starting to worry about the main storyline, only going to gran soren once halfway to get material to be able to handle the biggest challenges before being fully optimized and geared.

Of course It makes you OP and overleveled compared to Gransis (what you expect from farming daimon second form on hard mode for stuff ?!) , but once you're able to OHKO ennemies, it makes little difference being level 50 or 200, you just got more HPs (if you had the skill to go trough BBi on hard mode from level 10, there's no doubt you know how to avoid damages and so having more HP is not something that will utterly change your gameplay) and more stamina to run around without having to be high on mushrooms (everything else mostly comes from your stuff, you know, the subject of that thread).

And if you're not able to OHKO most ennemies at level 50 (and even earlier than that), it's about time to reconsider how you play your class, you're definitely doing something wrong, or purposedly using weak weapons to try to feel some challenge... (just go fight stronger ennemies in BBi).
Last edited by Guh~hey~hey~♫; Sep 27, 2019 @ 3:20am
Crusader Sep 27, 2019 @ 1:16am 
1- Get the gold idol. You can trade the gold idol with the blacksmith in Gran Soren (it’s a side quest after you meet the duke / king) you can trade it to unlock some of the most powerful weapons in the base game.

2- Use the eternal ferrystone in your storage area to fast travel to any port crystal. You have two of them by default (one in Cassardis and one in Gran Soren). You can place up to 10 port crystals as well. So if you get to a point on the map you think will be important later on, place a port crystal there. You usually get port crystals in main story quests.

3- Do not go to BBI (the purple mark on your map) until you’ve done everything in the base game, unless if you want some really good gear and want to cheese the game as much as possible. Though I do recommend getting two rings of perseverance from BBI. You can look up guides on how to get them on youtube. They help you earn more discipline which allows you to purchase skills, passives, etc. faster.

4- I also don’t recommend power leveling. Leveling doesn’t even give you enough to be all that useful past level 100. What’s more so important is your gear. And also if you’re not doing any damage to an enemy, run away. You’re more than likely not ready for it yet.
Originally posted by Error Setting My Name:
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3- Do not go to BBI (the purple mark on your map) until you’ve done everything in the base game, unless if you want some really good gear and want to cheese the game as much as possible. Though I do recommend getting two rings of perseverance from BBI. You can look up guides on how to get them on youtube. They help you earn more discipline which allows you to purchase skills, passives, etc. faster.

4- I also don’t recommend power leveling. Leveling doesn’t even give you enough to be all that useful past level 100. What’s more so important is your gear. And also if you’re not doing any damage to an enemy, run away. You’re more than likely not ready for it yet.

Except those two aims and statements contradict each other.
ProxyJames Sep 28, 2019 @ 2:19pm 
ok the big advice I have not seen anyone say is about stats, change classes too much and your stats will be garbage, each level up each class nets you various gains and here is the most IMPORTANT thing: assassin gives your THE MOST attack and magic sucks balls and should only be used for healing, also end game assassin is THE MOST OP more so if you use a force hatchet (sword that buffs damage based on the hits you do but will buff your bow witch is the star with DPS) a ranger can play a close second fiddle to assassin because there bows do more damage with base stats BUT assassins can stack ALOT of damage buffs and this lets you solo pretty much anything
Originally posted by ProxyJames:
ok the big advice I have not seen anyone say is about stats, change classes too much and your stats will be garbage, each level up each class nets you various gains and here is the most IMPORTANT thing: assassin gives your THE MOST attack and magic sucks balls and should only be used for healing, also end game assassin is THE MOST OP more so if you use a force hatchet (sword that buffs damage based on the hits you do but will buff your bow witch is the star with DPS) a ranger can play a close second fiddle to assassin because there bows do more damage with base stats BUT assassins can stack ALOT of damage buffs and this lets you solo pretty much anything

Changing classes "too much" really doesn't hugely impact things... Hell, you can play one class most of the game, then switch to a different one, and do just fine so long as you have the gear for it. It's such a minute difference that it's barely worth mentioning imo. Your gear will more than make up for any deficiency in anything except Stamina, as to my knowledge, only one item (a ring) will boost that in the game by a large(ish) margin [Namely the one per save file Savior's Ring].

Also, Magic can be really powerful. Mystic Knight is magic-using, and Great Cannon is silly good, as are Sorc's offensive magic, not to mention the utility potential of magic. Healing is probably the LEAST relevant thing, yet still quite useful, given the number of relatively light-weight restoratives, like the bottled water of a healing spring.

Also, I can solo Daimon (both forms) as a ranger. You can solo most things by simply making use of the tools the game gives you, like say, Conquerer's Periapts x4 with either a buncha stamina restoratives or a Liquid Vim and some blast arrows.

(I don't even need to use blast arrows to solo Daimon anymore, though it's still faster with blast arrows.)

And i'll point out I leveled basically the entire game as a Mystic Knight, with some dabbling in MA, Mage, Sorc, Ranger (a lot of Ranger), Assassin, Fighter and like two levels of Strider. That's given me base stats all over the place!
Guh~hey~hey~♫ Sep 28, 2019 @ 3:05pm 
^ you never met a pack of wraiths or a living armor, did you ? :o

Also the hatchet doesnt work only with assassin, It also does a pretty nice job in the hands of a mystic knight turning shield counters into OHKOs. On a fighter it also help as much as a caged furry on a sorcerer (30% more damage than the BBi level 3 weapon when fully charged).

The only class that can solo everything without special equipement or consummable is mystic knight. He's kinda average against most ennemies, but it has absolutely no arch nemesis, since he has great canon that is not only ranged, but also both magical and physical at the same time.

In the other hand a solo assassin that come across a pack of wraith is as scre.wed as a magick archer that meet a metal golem...

And once you get BBi weapons and all the augments needed for your class, the effect of stats become trivial (except stamina)... I've already beaten second form daimon as a magick archer with a pure assassin build character (956 str) and the difference was a single ninefold bolt more than a "balanced build". Also used it as sorcerer to farm cursed dragons for the lolz (and for dragon forging sorcerer gear for my pawn) with the same kind of results (1 or 2 more comestion than a magic focused build).

Though something bad that come from having stats focused only on strength, is that even with an enchanted weapon, you cant or barely can beat the damage thresold of a wraith unless you use stacked demon periapts...
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