RNG of this game is rigged.

[Raga]

80% of my rolls is in range of 70-95.
How can you call this game fair?

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1685995913732948760/AF87383F354413173E6639EEF996249E4768A134/

Next round:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1685995913732957515/3B579D6E7CA793767EAC5443AB7BE22229A75D9B/

[The Duck Knight]

Originally posted by EyeCanKnot:

The best way to end these threads is just not even respond. Then what can they do? Bump their own post over and over? Just ban for repeated bumping at that point.

Problem is: people checking the forum while considering buying the game will read these.
And not clarifying that the rigging-claims are just lies, might cause people to not buy the game.

[JCSato]

Guys, let's wrap this up. Raga isn't going to magically produce credentials that satisfy you, you're not going to convince them they don't understand RNG, and no one has added anything that advances the topic in the last several posts.

It's been pointed out that there are other rolls going on the player doesn't see, it's been pointed out the statistical analysis can't be note on a few anecdotes, and it's been pointed out that people have inspected the code. If someone believes the game is cheating (or is "broken") in spite of that, I don't think it really matters what you or I say. The same applies to new or potential players, so I'm not really sure bumping this topic does much for them, either.

[XuanKamoFurio]

there are thousands of letsplay in youtube to datamine the rolls and show the distribution. kinda easy to proof if the RNG was rigged.

But RNG liars will only show 1 screenshot with 3 bad rolls to say how unfair the RNG is. And also claim they even know statistics.

I also have 3 screenshots to show the rolls are white noise:

https://i.imgur.com/BBPPiEI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LGnIn1y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pim6tNR.jpg

oh wait, 9 rolls are not enough data to bring stochastic conclusions.

[Raga]

Originally posted by JCSato:

Guys, let's wrap this up. Raga isn't going to magically produce credentials that satisfy you, you're not going to convince them they don't understand RNG, and no one has added anything that advances the topic in the last several posts.

I will not :)
I never wanted to convince anybody and information given by JC Sato satisfied me.
There is no universal perfect RNG and I have enough information to know how yhe RNG in this game works.
Just being aware of it, it lets me play without anger.

[culsu]

I am not sure it is so unfair for the thread to exist, if you hate RNG heavy games this game will not appeal to you. I gave it a positive review and bought the supporter dlc (as well as every expansion), but I would not necessarily recommend it to everyone.

No matter if it is numerically correct or not, it frequently comes up with unexpected results. I assume there is more going on than I am aware of and try not to take it too hard (sure Mr recently conscripted farmer, you say you have a 70% chance to hit that unhold in a net, they always say that, the poor conscripted farmers).

It could probably use an easier difficulty setting to be honest.

I personally just make a beeline for fast adaptation and backstabber, but that farmer was number 16 in the peasant army, so they are not very well trained yet. Three unholds is probably too much, or I need more than the three nets and half a squad worth of long poking things I have.

[Abel]

Yes, people are not actually complaining about RNG itself but about what they feel is fair or unfair and they take the first culprit they can think of. In fact, RNG isn't to blame but rather the use of it, it's implementation in the game and it's really where the debate is. However people never seem to understand that and, as a result, we just get more of these pointless conspiracy discussions.

[Santo]

Given that the conversation is not going anywhere, and OP is satisfied with the answer, I think it’s time to lock this up. However, at the same time I want to congratulate and thank everyone on keeping things reasonably civil. :)

[black_bones1234]

At least they tell you its 20% hit chance. take mordheim 95% hit chance on the ui but in reality the hits chance is a 60% that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Here i see 50% to hit i understand that i might or not hit the target.