Deceiver C'Tan in campaign intro video

[Illiandri]

I searched the discussion thread but couldn't see this addressed anywhere.

Did anyone else notice that the seer that Abaddon was talking to in the campaign intro had the shadow of the C'Tan Shard of the Deceiver?

Necron involvement confirmed eh?

[Lemartes]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, nice attention to detail.

[Seven of Nine]

so last year :D
and nice spoiler in front of our eyes!

[Oberst]

you are right it locks like the imposter.
may be its a deamon that looks like him.

but realy good attention, didnt saw it.

[Gumonchoji]

In the lore the blackstone fortresses were made by the "old ones" to destroy the necrons (Necronteer) who made Star eaters theirs (Ctan). Necrons wake up to clean up all the psyckic life in the universe. It could be but the Deceiver as he is the one that killed many other Ctan. Thus he may want to stop them so he lives on unopposed or he wants to eat another sibling. Both could be why he is there.

Could be Chaos. Green and red light in 40k is evil and neither side has monopolistic controle but they may (nicely the colors chosen by NVIDIA and AMD). I personally thought it was a Skirilax or some spelling like that. They are one of those Rogue trader era species (seriously all this fluff was spelled out then) abd the Rogue trader RPG brought soke lesser races back.

On an interesting note Necrons took extradimensional creatures and mad them exist in three dimensions via tech. The old ones make it so races can reach into other dimensions through the gift of psycic powers. Down side is the warp is a boring place by nature until psycics get obsessed. Then that obsession manifests and draws all symilar feeling into a form. Thus you get the big forces and why decay is the oldest, then war, then knoledge , finally experiences. Sort of follows a hirarchy of needs in life. Need to not die, need to eat and fight, then you can plan and finally go get weird.

[Hjord the Skeleton]

Originally posted by Gumonchoji:

In the lore the blackstone fortresses were made by the "old ones" to destroy the necrons (Necronteer) who made Star eaters theirs (Ctan). Necrons wake up to clean up all the psyckic life in the universe. It could be but the Deceiver as he is the one that killed many other Ctan. Thus he may want to stop them so he lives on unopposed or he wants to eat another sibling. Both could be why he is there.

Could be Chaos. Green and red light in 40k is evil and neither side has monopolistic controle but they may (nicely the colors chosen by NVIDIA and AMD). I personally thought it was a Skirilax or some spelling like that. They are one of those Rogue trader era species (seriously all this fluff was spelled out then) abd the Rogue trader RPG brought soke lesser races back.

On an interesting note Necrons took extradimensional creatures and mad them exist in three dimensions via tech. The old ones make it so races can reach into other dimensions through the gift of psycic powers. Down side is the warp is a boring place by nature until psycics get obsessed. Then that obsession manifests and draws all symilar feeling into a form. Thus you get the big forces and why decay is the oldest, then war, then knoledge , finally experiences. Sort of follows a hirarchy of needs in life. Need to not die, need to eat and fight, then you can plan and finally go get weird.

Bruh, half of the sentences you wrote barely make sense but most of what you said is not necron lore at all fam.
1 the deciver has NO goals or plans as his very being has been fragmented into thousands of shards that have been slaved to the will of the silent king.
2 Crons aren't out to destroy psykers, their whole deal is finding a living race who's bodies they can steal and ending anything that stands infront of that goal.
3 no other point you tried to make made any sense because I have no idea what you were even attempting to say.

[She Who Thirsts]

The whole, Necrons are trying to find living bodies for themselves is news to me. Care to point me to a source? can't find it in the Cron codex.

[Illiandri]

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Deceiver

Head and fingers are identical.
It is believed that a Shard is at loose in the Galaxy but this would not be the first time Abaddon has met the Deceiver Shard. In older lore a golden figure guided Abaddon to Drach'nyen, some believing it to be the Deceiver

Abaddon was led to the daemon sword Drach'nyen by a golden-skinned stranger and with this cursed item, carved himself a realm of diabolical evil within the Eye of Terror before plunging the Gothic sector into war' (Codex: Eye of Terror, pg.9)

'Through subtle machinations, the Deciever has destroyed most of these awesome devices [Talismans of Vaul] and placed the remainder beyond the reach of the Farseers for all time. / ...it would have destroyed the Gothic sector a thousand times over to achieve its goals' (Codex: Necrons, pg.31)

Old lore is old but the Deceiver seems to be influencing the 12th Black Crusade

[Gruftschlampe]

Originally posted by Blood Angel Uk:

The whole, Necrons are trying to find living bodies for themselves is news to me. Care to point me to a source? can't find it in the Cron codex.

Your codex is probably outdated. They had a huge retcon from silent killer machines working for the C'tan to Eldar like fallem empire that crushed the C'tan into shards and enslaved them.

[Hjord the Skeleton]

Originally posted by Blood Angel Uk:

The whole, Necrons are trying to find living bodies for themselves is news to me. Care to point me to a source? can't find it in the Cron codex.

https://i.gyazo.com/b19da4d8e858dd9e5a1304b1c1db9c69.png

From the 5th edition codex, nothing in 6th or 7th has retconned this goal, though it's not as played up in importance like it was in the 5th, but until it's stated otherwise, that is the primary goal of the necrons.
It's on page 24 of the 5th edition codex btw.

[Nodrim]

Originally posted by Gruftschlampe:

Originally posted by Blood Angel Uk:

The whole, Necrons are trying to find living bodies for themselves is news to me. Care to point me to a source? can't find it in the Cron codex.

Your codex is probably outdated. They had a huge retcon from silent killer machines working for the C'tan to Eldar like fallem empire that crushed the C'tan into shards and enslaved them.

Really?! That sux...

[Corseth]

So in the original lore, that seer was the Deceiver, tricking Abbadon into starting the Gothic War so that the Necrons could remove the Anvils of Vaul (Blackstone Fortresses) from the hands of the Eldar, who were the only ones properly concerned about the C'Tan's return.

However, the Necrons got a bit lore retcon recently, and Battlefleet Gothic has been out of print since before that, so I'm not sure which lore set this game is using. Lore is a fluid thing when you have one game (40k) getting lore updates but another (Gothic) not because it is discontinued.

[Lovenought]

Originally posted by Hjord the skeleton:

Originally posted by Gumonchoji:

In the lore the blackstone fortresses were made by the "old ones" to destroy the necrons (Necronteer) who made Star eaters theirs (Ctan). Necrons wake up to clean up all the psyckic life in the universe. It could be but the Deceiver as he is the one that killed many other Ctan. Thus he may want to stop them so he lives on unopposed or he wants to eat another sibling. Both could be why he is there.

Could be Chaos. Green and red light in 40k is evil and neither side has monopolistic controle but they may (nicely the colors chosen by NVIDIA and AMD). I personally thought it was a Skirilax or some spelling like that. They are one of those Rogue trader era species (seriously all this fluff was spelled out then) abd the Rogue trader RPG brought soke lesser races back.

On an interesting note Necrons took extradimensional creatures and mad them exist in three dimensions via tech. The old ones make it so races can reach into other dimensions through the gift of psycic powers. Down side is the warp is a boring place by nature until psycics get obsessed. Then that obsession manifests and draws all symilar feeling into a form. Thus you get the big forces and why decay is the oldest, then war, then knoledge , finally experiences. Sort of follows a hirarchy of needs in life. Need to not die, need to eat and fight, then you can plan and finally go get weird.

Bruh, half of the sentences you wrote barely make sense but most of what you said is not necron lore at all fam.
1 the deciver has NO goals or plans as his very being has been fragmented into thousands of shards that have been slaved to the will of the silent king.
2 Crons aren't out to destroy psykers, their whole deal is finding a living race who's bodies they can steal and ending anything that stands infront of that goal.
3 no other point you tried to make made any sense because I have no idea what you were even attempting to say.

That's the crappy new lore. Old Necrons and Ctan were way better.

[Metharius]

le lore imply that it was the deceiver who give the info about the BF to abbadon .

[Hjord the Skeleton]

Originally posted by Lovenought:

Originally posted by Hjord the skeleton:

Bruh, half of the sentences you wrote barely make sense but most of what you said is not necron lore at all fam.
1 the deciver has NO goals or plans as his very being has been fragmented into thousands of shards that have been slaved to the will of the silent king.
2 Crons aren't out to destroy psykers, their whole deal is finding a living race who's bodies they can steal and ending anything that stands infront of that goal.
3 no other point you tried to make made any sense because I have no idea what you were even attempting to say.

That's the crappy new lore. Old Necrons and Ctan were way better.

Cool ♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion bro

[Papa_Smurf]

Originally posted by Lovenought:

Originally posted by Hjord the skeleton:

Bruh, half of the sentences you wrote barely make sense but most of what you said is not necron lore at all fam.
1 the deciver has NO goals or plans as his very being has been fragmented into thousands of shards that have been slaved to the will of the silent king.
2 Crons aren't out to destroy psykers, their whole deal is finding a living race who's bodies they can steal and ending anything that stands infront of that goal.
3 no other point you tried to make made any sense because I have no idea what you were even attempting to say.

That's the crappy new lore. Old Necrons and Ctan were way better.

Old lore was better, the new lore made Necron into "Tomb Kings in space" (Thank you Matt Ward for that lore change)