Stone settlers and Beasts moral dillema. Words > Actions ?????

[Tecno Cumbiero Vegano]

So let me get this straight. I'm at the Beastmen village in Stone Gorge. Back in the Stone settlers village, they were holding a Beastman captive, based in the wrong information that he was responsible for the death and dissapearance of many settlers. I had 0 Favor and 0 Wrath with the Stone Settlers at this point, (SPOILER ALERT) because I did not read the Stone edict.
Now comes the fun part. Of couse the villagers think the beastman is guilty and want to stone him to death. Fitting I'd say if he WERE guilty, which after getting some info and checking with the now diseased Chorus soldiers, is false.
So during the beast trial, A woman was angry as hells at me because I used logic every turn I could as a good Fatebinder, servant of the Archon of Justice, would do. After 4 logic uses ( and I really mean it, logic, not "logic" as in insult them at your own will), now the Wrath metter with the Stone Settlers is at 4. 4!!!!!!!. IT GREW 4 LEVELS OF WRATH FOR USING LOGIC IN A LIFE-DEATH SITUATION
Here is when things get funny: In the Beastmen village, I found the missing settlers, who were trespassing, since I let the beast go alive, I used that "Scratch my back I scratch yours" card. The Settlers are now free and returning to the village. My reward?

A. MINOR. FAVOR. FOR. STONE SETTLERS

Which (after doing other good things for them) let my Stats at:

Stone Settlers: Favor 1 Wrath 4

TL;DR : Did the devs just use a current time real-life action in this game to my dismay?

[Flatbuffer]

Their favor will grow if you suggest you'll build a wall to stop the illegal immigration of beastmen into the village.

[Tecno Cumbiero Vegano]

Originally posted by Stiglets:

Their favor will grow if you suggest you'll build a wall to stop the illegal immigration of beastmen into the village.

Since in this case they are the bichers and not the resolute, shouldnt it go the other way?

[Damnion]

Originally posted by Stiglets:

Their favor will grow if you suggest you'll build a wall to stop the illegal immigration of beastmen into the village.

Don't forget you have to promise to jail the chieften and assault all thier daughters.

[Tecno Cumbiero Vegano]

Originally posted by Damnion:

Originally posted by Stiglets:

Their favor will grow if you suggest you'll build a wall to stop the illegal immigration of beastmen into the village.

Don't forget you have to promise to jail the chieften and assault all thier daughters.

So be the Chorus?

[Precache]

(spoiler ) If you select the option to talk to the townsfolk first and then talk to them all, you can release him without gaining any wraith.

[aris.indulens]

Does favor/wrath with various villages even change anything? I've only done one playthrough, but haven't noticed anything at all.

[BFDreaming]

I experimented with this a lot and finally managed to get through it without angering the village. First you have to talk to all the calm villagers, then you have to talk to the beastman, tell him you're going to consider all angles. Then, and this is crucial, don't actually make any arguments in his favor. These people are offended by logic. Just let him go at this point and they'll be okay with it. I think I said something like, "I have no sympathy for racists."

It. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[DarkSpiral]

For the love of...of course it makes sense. You facing down a mob mentality. Ever faced down a group of pissed off people that just want to indulge in hatred and anger?

No, me either. Because I avoid situations like that, since those people are no longer in the mood for words. They want that Beast dead because its a convenient target for all the ♥♥♥♥ they've been living with. Trying to talk down a mob rarely works out in your favor.

[Tecno Cumbiero Vegano]

Originally posted by DarkSpiral:

For the love of...of course it makes sense. You facing down a mob mentality. Ever faced down a group of pissed off people that just want to indulge in hatred and anger?

No, me either. Because I avoid situations like that, since those people are no longer in the mood for words. They want that Beast dead because its a convenient target for all the ♥♥♥♥ they've been living with. Trying to talk down a mob rarely works out in your favor.

Then when they come to me crying in disbelief when I poison the Stone land with Cairn's power and the Disfavored, I'll simply slaughter them because I don't like logic

[NuclearSqworms]

Originally posted by BFDreaming:

I experimented with this a lot and finally managed to get through it without angering the village. First you have to talk to all the calm villagers, then you have to talk to the beastman, tell him you're going to consider all angles. Then, and this is crucial, don't actually make any arguments in his favor. These people are offended by logic. Just let him go at this point and they'll be okay with it. I think I said something like, "I have no sympathy for racists."

It. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Like arguing on the Fox news facebook feed.... I'm at this same situation and with a few logical conversation choices, they +wrath'ed me like 3 times. I loaded a save and am glad I checked this thread.

[Ichthyic]

Originally posted by Stiglets:

Their favor will grow if you suggest you'll build a wall to stop the illegal immigration of beastmen into the village.

LOL

and get the beastfolk to pay for it?

seriously though, you can simply bypass the villagers during the interview with the beastman. You don't have to analyze their ridiculously bigoted dialogue, pick neutral options, and then you can just call them bigots, release the beast, and they will wander off wondering if they were right for trying to condemn the beast in the first place.

not kidding.

at most, you should incur 1 level of wrath in freeing the beast. that combined with getting the villagers freed without violence from the stone tribe got me to 3 favor 1 wrath total... follwing the disfavored path.


but really? it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. you get nothing but a tiny bit more conversation if you are in good favor with them.

*shrug*

[NuclearSqworms]

Did anyone else get Wrath of Tunon for freeing him, however?