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Anschluss

Mar 11, 2021 @ 4:31pm

Crossbow is OP

I really hate to say it but something needs to be done about the crossbow and I'm not talking about the scope (but that too the workshop mods leave no excuse).

This weapons insta-kills HECU and vortigaunts and similar enemies with a very short reload time. Once you have it and ammo for it, there's little reason to use the revolver or most any gun for that matter! I can just walk around with my crossbow and it is by far my preferred weapon especially in Lambda against all the teleporting enemies.

I'm honestly not sure how to fix this. Perhaps just make the damage exactly like in HL1.?

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gaming56798 has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 5:01pm

didn't it also one shot in hl1?!?!?!??!??!?!?>?!>#/1`.31/.3/3.31

Edit: Yes it dose.

Last edited by gaming56798; Mar 11, 2021 @ 5:17pm

KriKitBoNeZ has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 5:27pm

Originally posted by Anschluss:
I really hate to say it but something needs to be done about the crossbow and I'm not talking about the scope (but that too the workshop mods leave no excuse).

This weapons insta-kills HECU and vortigaunts and similar enemies with a very short reload time. Once you have it and ammo for it, there's little reason to use the revolver or most any gun for that matter! I can just walk around with my crossbow and it is by far my preferred weapon especially in Lambda against all the teleporting enemies.

I'm honestly not sure how to fix this. Perhaps just make the damage exactly like in HL1.?

Either don't use it or enjoy the part where you know how to use it.

Sikobae

Mar 11, 2021 @ 5:32pm

Originally posted by gaming56798:
didn't it also one shot in hl1?!?!?!??!??!?!?>?!>#/1`.31/.3/3.31

Edit: Yes it dose.

Not body shots on hard. Also HL1's crossbow is much faster and you hold 5 times more ammo. BMs crossbow is stronger, but its fine.

Anschluss

Mar 11, 2021 @ 6:16pm

Yeah that's the problem. Body shots shouldn't kill HECU and vorts.

gaming56798 has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 6:29pm

Originally posted by Anschluss:
Yeah that's the problem. Body shots shouldn't kill HECU and vorts.

how would that make the magnum any more useful.

Cursed Hawkins has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 7:23pm

Originally posted by Sikobae:
Originally posted by gaming56798:
didn't it also one shot in hl1?!?!?!??!??!?!?>?!>#/1`.31/.3/3.31

Edit: Yes it dose.

Not body shots on hard. Also HL1's crossbow is much faster and you hold 5 times more ammo. BMs crossbow is stronger, but its fine.

Why would you be using what's basically a SNIPER and NOT going for Headshots?

KriKitBoNeZ has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 7:37pm

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
Originally posted by Sikobae:

Not body shots on hard. Also HL1's crossbow is much faster and you hold 5 times more ammo. BMs crossbow is stronger, but its fine.
Why would you be using what's basically a SNIPER and NOT going for Headshots?

Asking the right probing questions.

Vassago Rain has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 9:42pm

The problem is the availability of ammo throughout surface tension and beyond. You find more bolts than enemies, to the point where lambda can be beaten using it almost exclusively.

BM's crossbow is OP4's sniper rifle, with the difference that you're drowning in ammo at all times. It being an insta-kill isn't a problem, it's how often you can use it.

Last edited by Vassago Rain; Mar 11, 2021 @ 9:43pm

gaming56798 has Black Mesa

Mar 11, 2021 @ 11:45pm

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
The problem is the availability of ammo throughout surface tension and beyond. You find more bolts than enemies, to the point where lambda can be beaten using it almost exclusively.

BM's crossbow is OP4's sniper rifle, with the difference that you're drowning in ammo at all times. It being an insta-kill isn't a problem, it's how often you can use it.

Good point.

Anschluss

Mar 12, 2021 @ 9:04pm

Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
The problem is the availability of ammo throughout surface tension and beyond. You find more bolts than enemies, to the point where lambda can be beaten using it almost exclusively.

BM's crossbow is OP4's sniper rifle, with the difference that you're drowning in ammo at all times. It being an insta-kill isn't a problem, it's how often you can use it.

Good point.

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Alcoholic

Mar 14, 2021 @ 3:16pm

Nah, it's fine as it is, keep in mind you only have 10 bolts in reserve

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Peter Brev has Black Mesa

Mar 14, 2021 @ 4:27pm

Originally posted by Zorga:
Nah, it's fine as it is, keep in mind you only have 10 bolts in reserve

Hello.

As Vassago highlighted, the ammo scattered around the levels is too plentiful, making the fact that having reserve ammunition to 10 irrelevant. Had it been more sparse, then people would be using the crossbow more responsibly.

Thanks for understanding.

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Alcoholic

Mar 15, 2021 @ 4:08am

Originally posted by Peter Brev:
Originally posted by Zorga:
Nah, it's fine as it is, keep in mind you only have 10 bolts in reserve
Hello.

As Vassago highlighted, the ammo scattered around the levels is too plentiful, making the fact that having reserve ammunition to 10 irrelevant. Had it been more sparse, then people would be using the crossbow more responsibly.

Thanks for understanding.

Well then remove some ammo locations and make it so that when we pick it up we get 5 bolts instead of incorrectly 10

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