Black Mesa

Black Mesa

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nikijb Sep 26, 2021 @ 2:23pm
Frame rate shockingly bad during "On a rail".
Hello,

What is the correct "fix" for this issue? I was doing just fine with Ultra settings at 1080p and 60 fps, then I got to the rocket launch area and it became horrible. I am now back inside the rail system with an electrified pool of water down below, and still a horrible frame rate.

To make it smooth again, I not only have to turn everything down to "potato", but I also have to change to borderless window, which then almost maxes out GPU usage. I don't mind about that, as it's an old card, but I would like a better option. There are lots of alleged fixes, and I don't have the time to try them all.

Makes me wonder if these problems are intentional to make everyone go over to consoles, as none of us sign-up to hours of trouble-shooting when we buy games.

Could the makers of this game please respond?

Win 7
i7 4790
R9 280x
12 gig ram
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AlexTECPlayz Sep 26, 2021 @ 2:32pm 
It is not intentional, and it's not made to get everyone to consoles, because Black Mesa is PC only. The game engine that Black Mesa runs on is at its limits with this game, and everyone has framerate issues in that chapter, because of all the detail and assets. I doubt it's improper game development or an issue with all of those maps.

There is no "correct" way to fix the issue, just drop everything to low or until you find a manageable framerate and go through the chapter.
nikijb Sep 26, 2021 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by AlexTECPlayz:
It is not intentional, and it's not made to get everyone to consoles, because Black Mesa is PC only. The game engine that Black Mesa runs on is at its limits with this game, and everyone has framerate issues in that chapter, because of all the detail and assets. I doubt it's improper game development or an issue with all of those maps.

There is no "correct" way to fix the issue, just drop everything to low or until you find a manageable framerate and go through the chapter.

Thank you. I did hear people saying "Xen" is even worse, which is why I would like to sort this out before I carry on with it. So you are saying it's just that chapter? I hope so, and I will carry on playing if that's the case.
medion_no Sep 26, 2021 @ 3:45pm 
Even my Titan X OC struggles in some areas. It is normal since there are many improvements and dynamic lights in the source engine.
Yeah its not your computer. It's Source itself, as the engine itself is still rather old. You should upgrade your ram to at least 16gb though or higher. As it does help a lot with Source engine games. Your motherboard has a set limit it can handle.
Last edited by Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP; Sep 26, 2021 @ 4:17pm
nikijb Sep 26, 2021 @ 10:24pm 
Played some more and the fps recovered quickly in the next area. Hope it doesn't do the same when I finally get to "Xen", Taking an age to get there! Cheers all.
KriKitBoNeZ Sep 27, 2021 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by nikijb:
Played some more and the fps recovered quickly in the next area. Hope it doesn't do the same when I finally get to "Xen"

You know that it will. It's the most intensive part of the game.
nikijb Sep 27, 2021 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by KriKitBoNeZ:
Originally posted by nikijb:
Played some more and the fps recovered quickly in the next area. Hope it doesn't do the same when I finally get to "Xen"

You know that it will. It's the most intensive part of the game.
I hope that it won't, and I will hopefully find out this evening. When the frame-rate dropped to ridiculous numbers, the GPU usage was also low at around 30%, which was odd. I will update later.

P.S.
On another point, it's a shame the camera movement on right stick has acceleration applied to it. I can still play OK, but it's not ideal. The camera movement in Alien Isolation was so smooth, wish it was like that in all games.
KriKitBoNeZ Sep 27, 2021 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by nikijb:
Originally posted by KriKitBoNeZ:

You know that it will. It's the most intensive part of the game.
I hope that it won't, and I will hopefully find out this evening. When the frame-rate dropped to ridiculous numbers, the GPU usage was also low at around 30%, which was odd. I will update later.

P.S.
On another point, it's a shame the camera movement on right stick has acceleration applied to it. I can still play OK, but it's not ideal. The camera movement in Alien Isolation was so smooth, wish it was like that in all games.

The game was designed for m+k and your gpu was at 30% because the source engine likes to use the cpu, apparently.
akamu1337 Sep 29, 2021 @ 2:42am 
because it is. its source engine pushed to its limit with dx9 module but try harding to be eyecandy with it. this is already everybodys problem.to fix it? there nothing to fix it even if u put the graphics and tweak it into very low it wont effect on certain part of the game. rather map too big or too many geometries and AI and due to incapability of source engine to render such scene. rather the dev cut the map and make it looks like crap for performance and everyone complain that the map is bland, or looking beautiful but not everybodys PC friendly. it ran okay on my q6600 pc, even though stable 30 -45 fps with no dips. but dips hard on my acer nitro with 10 x spec of my pc lol. source engine r just lolz.
point it's.. it's source engine thing.
nikijb Sep 30, 2021 @ 4:44pm 
Well, made it to Xen, finally, and it was worth the wait. Even on Ultra, the entrance to Xen was smooth as butter and breath-taking. The fps issue earlier was very strange but very brief. Xen looks awesome...utterly. Long game!
Bitmiko Nov 3, 2021 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by nikijb:
Well, made it to Xen, finally, and it was worth the wait. Even on Ultra, the entrance to Xen was smooth as butter and breath-taking. The fps issue earlier was very strange but very brief. Xen looks awesome...utterly. Long game!

Glad you made it to Xen without any issues.
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Date Posted: Sep 26, 2021 @ 2:23pm
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