So you play as a ''black'' guy killing only white people...

[z4v3k]

The anti white racism in this game is insane, if the roles were reversed the game probably wouldn't even be allowed on Steam.

[ne_propheta]

Dunno man, IRL we did have nice things like KKK already, but the reverse didn't happened history wise, I guess - perhaps we're just clueless?

[BleppyBoo]

Irish Black guy who served in Vietnam kills racists and stooges working for the men who killed his father figure and brother. He also kills many Haitians within his community that leads to strained relationships when he has to turn to them for help initially. He also aids Irishmen under Burke and Italians under Vito. The only real racial killings would be the racist Dixie boys who also tricked out many black women into prostitutes and sex slaves before Lincoln came in and put a stop to it soooo yknow, justified.

[DEATHCLXCK]

Valve shouldn't care about racism, even 2K creators. it's a game anyways, like some games has different story with other character, not because the people still crying for all about the character doesn't mean that maybe they will be listen to them. it's a game, that's it.

[Valden21]

Yet ANOTHER person complaining about the game because they see it as "woke". Let's see, the game takes place WHEN and WHERE? Oh yeah, Louisiana during the late 60's. News flash! The Civil Rights Act didn't end racial discrimination, just made it a lot less overt; we see that in the news all the time IRL now. So if you want to complain about the game being woke, then you have to complain about history ITSELF being woke, because guess what? The South in the 60's truly WAS that racist, and THAT'S what the game's showing.

[wicked lester]

Originally posted by z4v3k:

The anti white racism in this game is insane, if the roles were reversed the game probably wouldn't even be allowed on Steam.

But I bet you'd be fine with it, though.

[Papa Joe]

this game is too old to be complaining now lol

[Skywalker]

mfer forgot about the whole first act of the game you spend killing haitians

[Asty]

so the entire first act where you sneak in and kill the hatian leader didnt exist for this guy? Ok.

[Kiryu]

Don't feed the troll guys, when someone acts retarded the correct option is to ignore them. They just want the attention they don't get in their sad lifes

[Neo]

idk how white people ALWAYS manage to victimize themselves in every situation possible.
similar to war movies.

white people go to vietnam -> white people kill countless innocent vietnamese children, elderly and adults -> 10 years later white people make movies about how killing all these vietnamese traumatized these poor white men and made them sad :(
-same with iraq war.

btw Lincoln kills a lot of haitians too (not white)

[Hopper-King]

So you play as a ''black'' guy killing only white people...

yeah, "tutorial island", you only kill black people.
besides that lincoln is heavily hinted as being joe ferro's kid.
the real racism is american english people whitewashing american scots so they could take full responsibility for slavery in america.
i mean, most people don't even know which people in-game are supposed to be scotch-irish.

[Nicky Grimes]

Poor troll post, but leaving something here for those who are curious. There's several interracial and "turning on your own kind" conflicts that are portrayed/paid homage to within the main plot.

The main conflict is Lincoln going against white supremacist groups that not only wants to physically commit genocide against Black Americans but has systematically screwed over the Irish, Haitians, and Italians. (In no particular order).

Lincoln himself have explain several times in the optional missions that this trouble doesn't start by him approaching the assailants first. Rather, they have approached him with these attitudes, earliest start was during the VIetnam War. Pastor James mentioned anti-black sentiments within his division during the time he served as a medic.

There's also a quote within the Sign of the Times DLC (or earlier on in the game), that Pastor James reminds Lincoln that a circumstance created to create race division =/= all white people are bad. James reminded Lincoln that while the orphanage was open, there were Catholics and white people who donated food and clothes to the orphans. Lincoln doesn't dismiss that comment. James may be too pacifist for some extreme ends to be met, but he has a point there.

People who miss this aspect that higher classes make profitable business out of turning races against each other with laws created to keep themselves in higher positions.

Sal Marcano is anti-black, but all Underbosses you assist and people like Enzo have remarked that Sal's not just racist. He has a tendency to backstab those who have helped him in the past - regardless of ethnicity.

The reason why the game emphasizes Sal Marcano's hold over the city is because he - in the highest position of brute force and politics - holds control over the extremely radical mindset of supremacist groups such as the Southern Union, Dixie Mafia, and the Ku Klux Klan. That presents himself as a danger to everyone involved, including Lincoln.

There are several non-black characters that gets along with Lincoln just fine.
- There's Donovan, who's Caucasian. He risks his entire undercover career to help Lincoln take revenge, and has constantly reminded him that tolerating these types of people doesn't get rid of the long term attacks.
- Enzo, one of Sal Marcano's lieutenants, has a heel face turn while reminding Lincoln (and the player) that Sal will execute anyone regardless of ethnicity should they disappoint him.
- Lots of pro-desegregation businesses and restaurants has the shop owners telling Lincoln, "Good to see you again, sir," if you walk in.
- Vito Scaletta himself. There's no quotes where he insults Lincoln, Cassandra, or the Haitians based on the color of their skin. He treats them the same as anyone else - You screw with him, you die. Vito has also hired several workers that are amicable towards Lincoln.
- Burke is initially distrusting of Lincoln and does use insults related to skin color as part of his grieving anger at Danny's death. My initial impression is that he was distrusting of Lincoln as Danny took part in the heist that led to the latter's death.

If the roles were reversed, placing yourself in the shoes of a white man who wants to systemically kill off those who have non-white skin color or don't agree with his religious beliefs, I can assure there's several games out there dedicated to that, that may have flown under the public radar in this lifetime on earth.

Ignoring historical context by making posts for a decade-old game (that has several references to such conflicts) is what breeds radically dangerous cultures that will continue to bring those actions to real life.
It does not address the elephant in the room that those with huge power trips have created these divisions out of pure insecurity they could lose those positions one day.

[ReliableEyball]

One of the first missions is to kill like 90 black dudes so...

[UncleSalty876]

Yeah, personally if I'm playing a mafia themed game I kinda wanna play an italian, feel like that should be obvious. If they wanted to go this route they shoulda just made a black panther party game or something lol. The games mid all that aside, nothing special but amusing enough.

[Hopper-King]

he wouldn't be accepted in the black panthers, he was only accepted into sammy's because he's his son's best friend. the preacher tells you clay is half italian very early game, and you see that he's not treated 1:1 with any of sammy's or the haitians. not fitting in is clay's whole thing, why he went to war, why he was only passing through on his way to something new and different in the beginning of the game, and why he creates his own family instead of re-establishing sammy's. they even give you that odd moment between joe and clay, to let us know that joe is clay's pops.