Boss - not Overkill

[Boshiken]

Which Bosses are there - that you cannot Overkill - and why?

[Xaphnir]

Think Sinspawn Ammes might be the only one. Has an overkill of 1000, and I don't think it's possible to hit that high in that section of the game.

Guess you could also count the first encounter with Geosgaeno, though you just get a cutscene and escape after a few turns, so I wouldn't.

[Boshiken]

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Think Sinspawn Ammes might be the only one. Has an overkill of 1000, and I don't think it's possible to hit that high in that section of the game.

Guess you could also count the first encounter with Geosgaeno, though you just get a cutscene and escape after a few turns, so I wouldn't.

1. Sinspawn Ammes - Auron with Overdrive below 700 - even if you fill Overdrive again
2. Geos Gaeno - Overkill = "-"

[Boshiken]

Some funny examples where you can actually kill a Boss very fast with Overdrive:
1. Polyp - with ??? Overdrive (before the Boss can even attack)
2. Oblitzerator - use the Krane, Lulu Overdrive
3. Efrye Altana - Steal, Phoenix Feather, Wakka Overdrive (before the Boss can even attack)

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Boshiken:

3. Efrye Altana - Steal, Phoenix Feather, Wakka Overdrive (before the Boss can even attack)

Two Phoenix Downs will always kill Evrae Altana (with overkill) since they do 50% of max HP as damage to zombies. Two X-Potions also work, though they're of course more precious than mere Phoenix Downs.

[Boshiken]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Originally posted by Boshiken:

3. Efrye Altana - Steal, Phoenix Feather, Wakka Overdrive (before the Boss can even attack)

Two Phoenix Downs will always kill Evrae Altana (with overkill) since they do 50% of max HP as damage to zombies. Two X-Potions also work, though they're of course more precious than mere Phoenix Downs.

Yes - that's funny with the "Zombies"
However I like to strike for Overkill - also saved 1 Phoenix Feather

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Boshiken:

also saved 1 Phoenix Feather

Hope those savings pay off.

[Boshiken]

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Think Sinspawn Ammes might be the only one. Has an overkill of 1000, and I don't think it's possible to hit that high in that section of the game.

Guess you could also count the first encounter with Geosgaeno, though you just get a cutscene and escape after a few turns, so I wouldn't.

How about "Biran" and "Yenke"?
They have 2,500 Overkill Value.
So you would need to build up Strength first and kill Biran first.

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Boshiken:

How about "Biran" and "Yenke"?
They have 2,500 Overkill Value.
So you would need to build up Strength first and kill Biran first.

Anything that deals enough damage will do. Doesn't have to be a physical attack, could just be a spell.

The reason you can't overkill Ammes is that you can't actually increase your damage prior to fighting it. You can't grind and you can't increase your stats. With the stats and gear you have, even a maximum random roll critical hit isn't enough to overkill Ammes.

With bosses later in the game (like Biran and Yenke) you have all the time in the world to level and improve your stats. Overkilling them is trivial, because it's purely a matter of stats.

[Boshiken]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Originally posted by Boshiken:

How about "Biran" and "Yenke"?
They have 2,500 Overkill Value.
So you would need to build up Strength first and kill Biran first.

Anything that deals enough damage will do. Doesn't have to be a physical attack, could just be a spell.

The reason you can't overkill Ammes is that you can't actually increase your damage prior to fighting it. You can't grind and you can't increase your stats. With the stats and gear you have, even a maximum random roll critical hit isn't enough to overkill Ammes.

With bosses later in the game (like Biran and Yenke) you have all the time in the world to level and improve your stats. Overkilling them is trivial, because it's purely a matter of stats.

THX - sadly you cannot level Kimahri on the Bevelle Bridge - cause he is stuck
So you have to find another way before the fight - like in the Caves

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by Boshiken:

1. Sinspawn Ammes - Auron with Overdrive below 700 - even if you fill Overdrive again
2. Geos Gaeno - Overkill = "-"

Sinspawn Ammes you need to hit over 1000 to overkill. Auron's Overdrive doesn't hit that high that early, and since there's no sphere grid access at that point nor access to items that can hit that high or increase his damage, there's no way to hit over 1000.

Geosgaeno obviously you can come back later and overkill it, but in that initial scripted battle you can't.

[Boshiken]

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Originally posted by Boshiken:

1. Sinspawn Ammes - Auron with Overdrive below 700 - even if you fill Overdrive again
2. Geos Gaeno - Overkill = "-"

Sinspawn Ammes you need to hit over 1000 to overkill. Auron's Overdrive doesn't hit that high that early, and since there's no sphere grid access at that point nor access to items that can hit that high or increase his damage, there's no way to hit over 1000.

Geosgaeno obviously you can come back later and overkill it, but in that initial scripted battle you can't.

Yeah - about Geo - it is also in the Code that there is no Overkill: "-"

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Anything that deals enough damage will do. Doesn't have to be a physical attack, could just be a spell.

Or hell, just something like a Shining Gem.

[Boshiken]

How about "Elio" in the "Bikanel Cactor Game"?
He seems to jump from the "Airship" killing himself all the time.

[TheDudeAbides52]

one is the chocobo eater...i always make it fall off the cliff....and you get better rewards for it.

[Boshiken]

Originally posted by TheDudeAbides52:

one is the chocobo eater...i always make it fall off the cliff....and you get better rewards for it.

Yeah - the better Reward are the 2x Level 1 Spheres - I took it too.
But - you don't know if the Eater survived and is still eating Chocobos.
Maybe there are different Talk Options or Shop Prices if you actually Overkill the Eater.
Also - you don't know if Jekkt pushed him "Off the Cliff" or lost before.
Since the Group survives falling "Off the Cliff" you can assume the Eater survives.
The other Option would be that Jekkt lost and the Eater dies "All Ways" you defeat him.
Since the Eater never appears in the Game again.