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Dyshonest Feb 17, 2019 @ 11:50pm
(FFX) Any mods or AHK-scripts to auto-hit Wakka's Attack Reels?
Title. I tried looking around but I couldn't find anything.
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Cerocivr Feb 18, 2019 @ 9:49pm 
That's because there's not really one, to my knowledge.

Secret tip: If you can get the first and second 2 hits, you can let the timer run out for the full 15 hit attack, it always lands on it. At least that's what I think happens, haven't done it in a while because I've got the timing down.
Dyshonest Feb 22, 2019 @ 7:33pm 
Originally posted by Tyrrazhi:
That's because there's not really one, to my knowledge.

Secret tip: If you can get the first and second 2 hits, you can let the timer run out for the full 15 hit attack, it always lands on it. At least that's what I think happens, haven't done it in a while because I've got the timing down.
I wonder if it's possible to make it. I don't know how to use AHK at all other than running scripts so I wouldn't really know.

Sadly I don't think that trick works on the INT/PAL/HD releases, aside from the fact that it gets a lot weaker if you take longer to use the OD.

I'd have less issues with the overdrive if it wasn't so prone to the inherent input lag of the game, although at least the PC one has a bit less than the console ones.
Hinnyuu Feb 22, 2019 @ 7:42pm 
Maybe there's some kind of issue with your controller? I can't say I've experienced input lag as you describe. Wakka's overdrive is trivial to hit consistently given how much time you have. And that's coming from someone with absolutely TERRIBLE hand-eye coordination.
Cerocivr Feb 22, 2019 @ 7:51pm 
Originally posted by Dyshonest:
Originally posted by Tyrrazhi:
That's because there's not really one, to my knowledge.

Secret tip: If you can get the first and second 2 hits, you can let the timer run out for the full 15 hit attack, it always lands on it. At least that's what I think happens, haven't done it in a while because I've got the timing down.
I wonder if it's possible to make it. I don't know how to use AHK at all other than running scripts so I wouldn't really know.

Sadly I don't think that trick works on the INT/PAL/HD releases, aside from the fact that it gets a lot weaker if you take longer to use the OD.

I'd have less issues with the overdrive if it wasn't so prone to the inherent input lag of the game, although at least the PC one has a bit less than the console ones.
I'm fairly sure it's not possible to make. I have a little bit (Admittedly still fairly limited) of experience with making scripts, and AFAIK you can't really script 3 button presses in the exact timing and frames needed. You would still need to time the input on your end.

Strange, I think I recall it working on PAL (I live in Australia, a PAL region), and as for weaker, if you've hit the max strength cap of 255 you shouldn't need to worry about it. You certainly don't need to if you have Wakka's celestial weapon. (Celestial weapons ignore defense)

The input lag you experience is quite possibly not input lag. I managed to to the 200 lightning bolt dodge on this port, but I can't do it for the life of me on the OG PS2 version.

A common problem with slots is also the same problem in Cait Sith's slots, from FF7. You don't stop on the one you want; You press stop on the one before that. This isn't input lag - It's just not an instant stop in the animation itself (Which is actually smoother this way. An instant stop would be jarring as hell)
Chaos Residue Feb 23, 2019 @ 11:20am 
I'm fairly sure it's not possible to make. I have a little bit (Admittedly still fairly limited) of experience with making scripts, and AFAIK you can't really script 3 button presses in the exact timing and frames needed. You would still need to time the input on your end.

It is possible to fully automate this. Select Wakka's Attack Reels and leave it on the character selection of there thing/things you're going to hit. Have the script activate with a specific key press (say F1). When you hit F1 the script then hits the button to select the highlighted thing/things, the slots window pops up, and then it's all about having the timing down. Since the timings are static (unchanging) this should work 100% of the time unless there's some weird delay between selecting the thing/things you're going to hit and the slot window opening.
Last edited by Chaos Residue; Feb 23, 2019 @ 11:20am
Chaos Residue Feb 24, 2019 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Chaos Residue:
I'm fairly sure it's not possible to make. I have a little bit (Admittedly still fairly limited) of experience with making scripts, and AFAIK you can't really script 3 button presses in the exact timing and frames needed. You would still need to time the input on your end.

It is possible to fully automate this. Select Wakka's Attack Reels and leave it on the character selection of there thing/things you're going to hit. Have the script activate with a specific key press (say F1). When you hit F1 the script then hits the button to select the highlighted thing/things, the slots window pops up, and then it's all about having the timing down. Since the timings are static (unchanging) this should work 100% of the time unless there's some weird delay between selecting the thing/things you're going to hit and the slot window opening.

I was thinking more about this, and I'm less confident that this would be a fool-proof script. I forgot that when doing an overdrive the characters will sometimes say something before it kicks off. I'm pretty sure that would screw up the timing, meaning that you would be correct when you said that a truly automated AHK script would not be feasible.
Last edited by Chaos Residue; Feb 24, 2019 @ 4:28pm
Cerocivr Feb 24, 2019 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Chaos Residue:
Originally posted by Chaos Residue:

It is possible to fully automate this. Select Wakka's Attack Reels and leave it on the character selection of there thing/things you're going to hit. Have the script activate with a specific key press (say F1). When you hit F1 the script then hits the button to select the highlighted thing/things, the slots window pops up, and then it's all about having the timing down. Since the timings are static (unchanging) this should work 100% of the time unless there's some weird delay between selecting the thing/things you're going to hit and the slot window opening.

I was thinking more about this, and I'm less confident that this would be a fool-proof script. I forgot that when doing an overdrive the characters will sometimes say something before it kicks off. I'm pretty sure that would screw up the timing, meaning that you would be correct when you said that a truly automated AHK script would not be feasible.
That, and a 100% automated script isn't possible because the input would still require your actual input to stop the reels.

The only way it could maybe be feasible is something on the lines of a TAS level bot, but that would be far too much effort for one thing, as that's a frame-by-frame input.
Chaos Residue Feb 24, 2019 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by Chaos Residue:

I was thinking more about this, and I'm less confident that this would be a fool-proof script. I forgot that when doing an overdrive the characters will sometimes say something before it kicks off. I'm pretty sure that would screw up the timing, meaning that you would be correct when you said that a truly automated AHK script would not be feasible.
That, and a 100% automated script isn't possible because the input would still require your actual input to stop the reels.

The only way it could maybe be feasible is something on the lines of a TAS level bot, but that would be far too much effort for one thing, as that's a frame-by-frame input.

Actually, this could potentially be possible another way. There is an AHK script for the lightning dodge. They use a 1920x1080 resolution and somehow base it off of pixels. I'd imagine if they could detect when the lightning is striking that it could determine when the 2 Hits reel is there. I can't say this with 100% certainty, but it seems theoretically possible based on the lightning dodge AHK script existing. Someone with more experience with AHK than myself would have to confirm that, of course.
Casurin Feb 26, 2019 @ 9:11am 
Wouldn't even be that hard. Record the area of the wheels, determine what place it is at, press the button.
Not even hard but also no real incetive to do it as the wheels are rather easy to hit.
Dyshonest Mar 8, 2019 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by Casurin:
Wouldn't even be that hard. Record the area of the wheels, determine what place it is at, press the button.
Not even hard but also no real incetive to do it as the wheels are rather easy to hit.
They're easy-ish to hit in a vacuum but it's terribly hard to do when repetitively farming.

I don't know how to write AHK scripts sadly.
Chaos Residue Mar 8, 2019 @ 9:26pm 
Originally posted by Dyshonest:
Originally posted by Casurin:
Wouldn't even be that hard. Record the area of the wheels, determine what place it is at, press the button.
Not even hard but also no real incetive to do it as the wheels are rather easy to hit.
They're easy-ish to hit in a vacuum but it's terribly hard to do when repetitively farming.

I don't know how to write AHK scripts sadly.

I gave it a shot, but there is sometimes a delay between when you select the enemy and when the slots pops up because Wakka decides to make some unnecessary comment. Because of that the AHK script really would need to be dependent on pixels (similar to the lightning dodge AHK script). Unfortunately, I have no idea how to create that kind of an AHK script. I can do the basic "press button - wait a moment - press another button". I farmed Master Spheres at the same time I was farming Dark Matter (which took forever), and then I used an AHK script I made to constantly mash the button to use the Master Spheres over and over whenever I hit F6. It kept running until I hit F7 to pause the script. But that kind of a script does no good when Wakka's comments delay the start of the slots. Hence this needing to be a pixel-based AHK script, and I don't know anyone who knows how to make those.
happylabs Jul 21, 2022 @ 5:14am 
Found this thread on google looking for such a script. I made one and posted it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/finalfantasyx/comments/w4eyz0/i_made_an_autohotkey_script_to_perfectly_execute/
Chaos Residue Jul 22, 2022 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by happylabs:
Found this thread on google looking for such a script. I made one and posted it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/finalfantasyx/comments/w4eyz0/i_made_an_autohotkey_script_to_perfectly_execute/

Yes, this is the type of pixel-based script I was referring to. It's far outside of my abilities to make, but I knew someone could/would make it happen.

The downside to these types of pixel-based scripts is that you're forced to use that resolution. But at least with the hard part of the scripting being accomplished it should be relatively easy to adjust the pixel locations to match the resolution you're using.

You might consider posting this on Nexus Mods as well. Just for more visibility.
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