Seymour is such a terrible villain.

[Arthur Morrigan]

I feel like the game would actually be better without him. Nothing he does really alters the course of the story at all.

I don't think he actually accomplishes anything over the course of the entire game and it doesn't really even become clear what he even wants until long after the point he stopped being relevant.

[pre-eminence]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

Sephiroth accomplished even less than Seymour. Failed everything he attempted and now cannot get out of the lifestream.

Please stop right now, we do not need another FF vs FF war, the FFVII forum exists for a reason.

[Yerbad]

Originally posted by Tetsuo:

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Holy hell you got hostile fast,

[pre-eminence]

Originally posted by Silversong:

Originally posted by Tetsuo:

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Holy hell you got hostile fast,

Ah an opinion, with no reply. You got off topic fast, so I ended that. Guess you at least accept that two people can see things differently though, as I do not class my reaction as hostile yet you do, you do own csgo right? (jokes people... learn to take them) Just to be clear, I felt you were the one trying to create an argument over nothing, as you consistenly ignored the point and attempted to 'discuss' a pointless remark where you even added implication on my behalf.

[Pythios]

While I wouldn't call Seymour an amazing villain, he did accomplish what he was suppose to in the story. He gave them either a reason to question things (as someone said, Yuna questioned her pilgrimage, Wakka questioned his faith in yevon) or another reason to fight harder (he destroyed Rikku and the Al Bhed's home, killed a lot of Kimahri's people).

Another thing to point out is that he is not technically the main villain of the game, Sin and Yu Yevon are. Seymour was there to fill in the gaps when Sin wasn't there, and like I said before, I think he accomplished that.

[M3gadeuce]

There are far worse villains than Seymour. Why not look at Vayne from FFXII, or Kuja from 9?




Or if we're not looking at FF series......Skullface from MGSV.

[Naisu]

If I had to say one thing I really like about Seymour, it's his English voice actor. I think he did a really cool performance with him. He actually made Seymour cooler in my books. I especially enjoy the final cutscenes with him, he sounds deliciously mad in them.

[EnglishRosie]

Originally posted by Naisu:

If I had to say one thing I really like about Seymour, it's his English voice actor. I think he did a really cool performance with him. He actually made Seymour cooler in my books. I especially enjoy the final cutscenes with him, he sounds deliciously mad in them.

Yesssssss, when he's practically losing it with glee at the very end as he's transforming it is BRILLIANT.

[Polly]

What I don't understand is why didn't Yuna send Seymour after killing him the first time. It would have saved the party a lot of hassle..

[FallenStar]

Originally posted by BattleChicken24:

What I don't understand is why didn't Yuna send Seymour after killing him the first time. It would have saved the party a lot of hassle..

Cause plot

[Link]

I think it's safe to say that over 50% of the villains in Final Fantasy are pretty lackluster. I think Seymour, while a bit "pointless" feeling and poorly written, is still a relatively decent villain/character when weighed against many of the other villains, many of which who turn out to be some "uber God/Demon/Creature behind the curtain" types from the classic FF games.

[Purplefairy22]

My Opinion is Seymour Was Just awful.

The really camp voice, the long girly fingernails, the dress he wears.

What was he gonna do really? Perform cabaret with Graav from the Goers?
"let's go girls, Man i feel like a woman. duh du da duh da da da. "

Ahhhh i think i just worked out his motive.
He's struggeling his his sexual identity, and acceptance.

[Enfys Ellezard]

Originally posted by BattleChicken24:

What I don't understand is why didn't Yuna send Seymour after killing him the first time. It would have saved the party a lot of hassle..

She was going to.
Then the Guado fanatic went ape and pulled him away.

It can easily be assumed that the sending require some concentration to do all the dancing and all so the Guado people can easily stop it, shifting the focus from doing the sending to getting out first.

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Originally posted by Enfys Ellezard:

Originally posted by BattleChicken24:

What I don't understand is why didn't Yuna send Seymour after killing him the first time. It would have saved the party a lot of hassle..

She was going to.
Then the Guado fanatic went ape and pulled him away.

It can easily be assumed that the sending require some concentration to do all the dancing and all so the Guado people can easily stop it, shifting the focus from doing the sending to getting out first.

Yup, sending people takes time, time she didn't have.

[EnglishRosie]

Originally posted by Purplefairy22:

My Opinion is Seymour Was Just awful.

The really camp voice, the long girly fingernails, the dress he wears.

What was he gonna do really? Perform cabaret with Graav from the Goers?
"let's go girls, Man i feel like a woman. duh du da duh da da da. "

Ahhhh i think i just worked out his motive.
He's struggeling his his sexual identity, and acceptance.

You do realise that ALL the Guado have long fingers and nails and most of the higher ranking Yevonites wear long robes, right? Seymour's struggle about identity is about race, not his sexuality, which isn't something you can gauge from him having a higher voice. He's not even camp, lmao, he just has a breathy way of speaking, he's not all that flamboyant at all.

[soph]

Originally posted by Purplefairy22:

My Opinion is Seymour Was Just awful.

The really camp voice, the long girly fingernails, the dress he wears.

What was he gonna do really? Perform cabaret with Graav from the Goers?
"let's go girls, Man i feel like a woman. duh du da duh da da da. "

Ahhhh i think i just worked out his motive.
He's struggeling his his sexual identity, and acceptance.

Hellll yeah, sister.

People here just don't get how camp Seamour is. I don't understand how anybody could find someone who is so incredibly effeminate a good villain. The most evil thing Seamour could possibly do is tie Youna into a relationship and make her take him/her dress and shoe shopping.