How to beat farplane cup in x-2?

[Marco]

I have the chocobo and a red element and a tonberry.
Btw i have no key to succes or iron dukes and inviniblce accocerie.

[Hinnyuu]

Trema and Major Numerus are the only enemies that can be of any danger at all to an Almighty Shinra team. Paragon just gets obliterated. Trema is problematic because he has maximum defense, meaning all regular attacks deal very little damage; in addition, he casts a special Meteor spell twice during the fight (at 50% and 25% HP) which hits based on your maximum HP so you can't reduce the damage. It will ALWAYS kill a single character (the damage adds up to more than 100% max HP), and has a good chance of killing one of two characters because it's random how the damage is split. If you get unlucky, it can wipe you. His regular attacks aren't a big bother with high DEF.

You could pair Almighty Shinra with a small fiend that has an attack that ignores enemy DEF (like a Machina with Impale) but getting its stats high enough to matter is basically not worth the time it takes. AS will kill Trema eventually, even if it takes 5-10 minutes.

Once you farm Major Numerus for massive amounts of Iron Dukes (Butterfingers + Key to Success will yield 20 Iron Dukes per fight) it's trivial to max stats on any fiend you like. Then you can make a team with x3 Impale Machina which will kill Trema in about 15-20 seconds.

[Marco]

What is then the best creature team for paragon and trema in via infinito?

[Marco]

Without the iron dukes and key to succes

[Hinnyuu]

wiggers4 eredeti hozzászólása:

Without the iron dukes and key to succes

Honestly, without access to farming Numerus I'd just stick to Almighty Shinra. He requires minimal investment since he comes with massive stats and Total Limit Break, and is an easy ticket to farming Iron Dukes, which are the best way to train fiend stats by a huge margin.

The best overall team is x3 Machina with Impale, one of whom ideally also knows Black Sky to lock the enemy in an animation while the rest keep attacking. At max stats they can kill even Trema in 15 seconds or less - but you really do need max stats for this, especially AGI. They also require Invincibles to break the damage limit since they don't come with breaks on their own. Without Iron Dukes, training their stats to maximum will likely take more time than it would to just unlock Numerus with Almighty Shinra and farm it for IDs instead - not to mention that you need Invincibles for Break Damage Limit anyway and Numerus is the only way to get more of them.

In general my personal team progression is usually Chocobo + Tonberry + X to farm early stuff, then Almighty Shinra + Mushroom Cloud in Chapter 5, and then x3 Impale to cap it off (though at that point you already have everything on farm so...).

[Marco]

Oké to clear out the best creature for me is almithy shinra with mushroom cloud to beat paragon and trema end then when i have iron duke and a other item to beat farplane cup in chapter 5?

[Marco]

And to farm the iron dukes and key to succes and inviniblce?

[ZamasuNeverLost]

Best advice i can give you is to just pot shot on trema.

[Marco]

How do i do that?

[Hinnyuu]

wiggers4 eredeti hozzászólása:

And to farm the iron dukes and key to succes and inviniblce?

All of these are farmed from Major Numerus, which you defeat with Almighty Shinra quite handily. MN is a tough fight for numerous reasons, but it does NOT have the max defense that Trema has so Clione is super effective.

[Marco]

With order do you recommend to do first to fight paragon and trema or the farplane cup?

[Hinnyuu]

wiggers4 eredeti hozzászólása:

With order do you recommend to do first to fight paragon and trema or the farplane cup?

You don't have a choice since it's random what you get paired against. Paragon is an absolute joke, it usually dies in a single Clione. Only Trema and Major Numerus are even remotely difficult in the Farplane Cup.

[Marco]

Do you recommend first to beat bevele dungeon?

[Marco]

Hinnyuu eredeti hozzászólása:

wiggers4 eredeti hozzászólása:

With order do you recommend to do first to fight paragon and trema or the farplane cup?

You don't have a choice since it's random what you get paired against. Paragon is an absolute joke, it usually dies in a single Clione. Only Trema and Major Numerus are even remotely difficult in the Farplane Cup.

And i mean paragon and trema in bevele dungeon.

[Hinnyuu]

wiggers4 eredeti hozzászólása:

And i mean paragon and trema in bevele dungeon.

The bosses are identical in the dungeon and in the fiend arena.

Doesn't matter where you go first, really. Though I guess killing Trema in Via Infinito gives you one Iron Duke for free so that's something.

You can kill Trema in any number of ways. Fiends or YRP both work. Killing Major Numerus with YRP however is arguably the most difficult thing you could ever hope to do in this game, or possibly any FF game (unless you cheese it with Hero Drink).