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i got it already , but i grinded over and over with one order of chests that worked every couple of times but not guranteed , and honestly , it is kinda cool to have them , for early grinding it saves alot of time to not walk like 30 spaces between paths
I have changed the thread back to original so everyone can see it again.
I still stand my ground on all 3 statements except for Simurgh.
1 You can Capture 10 simurghs in 30-60 minutes
2. You can get extremely OP with Wakka very fast when you're end game
3. Marlboro Menace is the fastest way to earn gil.
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Quoting what Rikka Takanashi and his "friends" wrote to me
Me N'joy: You can get extremely OP with wakka very fast when you're end game
Rikka Takanashi and "friends": Way earlier than that. Attack Reels can literally oneshot story bosses, and is available right after Luca.
N'Joy: And I could go on by saying that you could just get some Wings To Discovery, and mix Trio 9999. (BUT YOU SAID OP WITH WAKKA! - Yes I did, but he will be in the party while Rikku is mixing the wings up, thus making him OP) That's faster than getting Attack Reels, and TRIO 9999 will make you even more OP than Attack Reels, if we're just talking OP for the storyline bosses. But really - I meant OP as in having high stats. You can't even capture all the fiends without trouble just by having Attack Reels.
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N'joy: You can Capture 10 simurghs in 30 to 60 min.
Rikka Takanashi and "friends": actually seems fairly slow, fighting at the crossing right before Djose has a very good spawn rate for Simurgh teams. 30 minutes is probably a lot more than you need for 10 captures.
N'joy: He's right, it can probably be done in 20-30 minutes, sorry about this one guys. My intention was for people to ask me how to capture Simurghs in just 30 minutes, and I would then tell them about the Simurgh hotspot, making it less important how much time it would take.
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N'joy: Marlboro Menace is the fastest way to earn gil.
Rikka Takanashi and "friends": Faster than selling Triple AP weapons off One-Eye? Seems a bit suspect, considering One-Eye dies in 2 hits and Malboro Menace needs 7. Care to elaborate on what the trick is here?
N'joy: I made a video for proof on youtube. It can be found in this thread too.
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1. You can Capture 10 simurghs in 20-40 minutes (Edited)
2. You can get extremely OP with Wakka very fast when you're end game
3. Marlboro Menace is the fastest way to earn gil. (Requires high stats, but I'll guide you)
I then removed these 3 lines from my original post, and then I explained why, because they began to focus on that. But now I edited the 3 lines into my post again, because they thought I had something to hide.
And now that I've actually taken my time to argue against their comments against these 3 advices above, they start to make meaningless comments.
I will keep arguing for as long as I think there's something to argue against, but keep it short (Rikka Takanashi, I'm looking at you, don't start writing about meaningless things, stay on subject) and focus on 1 of the 3 lines at a time.
What do you mean by "OP", exactly? It doesn't seem to make much sense to me at endgame, because you're not OVERpowering anything, you're just reaching the endgame power requirement. Dealing 99,999 damage is par for the course for endgame. Dealing 9,999 (or more) far before endgame is not. And sure enough, Wakka is a great way to do so early on thanks to Attack Reels. At endgame, it's quite pointless to focus on one character because you want at least 3 anyway for all the superbosses.
That depends on what you mean by "fastest". Is it the highest gil-per-time in the abstract? Quite possibly. Is it the quickest way to reach X amount of gil from the start of the game? Unlikely, because it requires so much preparation. Is it the most efficient way to earn gil? Probably not, given the initial investment required and the fact that other methods (like One-Eye or Mimics) also provide other benefits on the side (Triple AP weapons/Omega captures, for those two examples).
Perhaps it might be a good idea to just change your approach from "I'm the FFX god, into the dirt with ya'll plebs!" to "here's some useful tips for X, Y, Z, what do you think?". That way, you don't have to be embarrassed when you don't have answers, like for how conversion works for different overdrive modes, or how stealing works in FFX.
OKAY N'Joy , THIS IS IT , I CHALLENGE YOU TO RECORD A FULL VIDEO WITH A SPEEDRUN TIMER RUNNING ( https://livesplit.org/ ) WE BOTH START AT
, IF YOUR INTERNET IS TOO BAD TO UPLOAD A 2-5 HOUR VIDEO , JUST USE MICROSOFT PHOTOS TO CUT THE VIDEO INTO PARTS BUT THE TIMER MUST BE CORRECT BETWEEN PARTS (video can be low resolution if that makes it easier) SO IF PART 2 ENDS AT 1 HOUR AND 30 MINUTES PART 3 CANT START AT 4 HOURS AND 20 MINUTES , INGAME TIMER HAS TO MATCH TOO BUT THE REASON I WANT LIVESPLIT IS SO IT DOESNT MATTER WHO TAKES LONGER IN PRE POST GAME , IF I WANT TO START POST GAME PROPERLY LEVELED WHILE YOU RUSHED THROUGH IT
YOU HAVE WHATEVER ITEMS YOU COLLECTED DURING THE GAME UP TO BEATING SIN
monster arena captures you are allowed to have :
-calm lands
- cavern of the stolen fayth
- mt gagazet
( how much you capture is up to you , if you already capture all monsters 5 times for ultima buster thats fine same with species and original captures , if you want shinryu you can captrue all under water fiends 2 times , you also can chose to not capture anything before post game)
other things you are allowed to have
ultimate weapon , sigil and crest for :
tidus
yuna
rikku
lulu
kimahri
for wakka you cant get the stuff bc blitzball takes a long time and also is kinda luck depending , no blitzball at all , and for auron , you can have everything but the item thats a reward for capturing ( for yuna you get the items for the sisters from mt gagazet and beating bahamut so its fine)
for gil so playing without spending any isnt rewarded , we both set our gil to 300.000 gil with ffxed if you have much more before that , you can use the gil for getting stuff but after beating sin it must be 500k , ofc if you have less than that you have less to grind but also cant use extra gil for bribing
- you can have all al bhed primers from another file ,you can get all the chests in home if you want but you need to talk with rin during the recording to get the underdog secrets
time stops once your main characters moved across the whole spheregrid , you are free to delete nods you dont want
your health needss to be at 9999 , wether you just farm 33 spheres from ironclad or activate them all over the grid is up to you
your mp must be 999
and your stats for everything excluding magic and luck needs to be between 100-150 atleast
the amount of gil you have at the end doesnt matter , you just need to be able to get gear thats suitable for endgame
which means no trash abilitiies on the armor , you need to be able to theoretically beat all strong enemies and not know that one would kill your party due to his attacks inflicting stone and shattering
i dont really know what armor would be ideal to be classified as "end game armor" maybe someone else could help me with that
and at the end we just check who has less time
and for timing , maybe if it takes too long , we could use the ingame time instead of livesplit , idk , i just think livesplit would be convenient bc then only the time there counts
1. Do not flee from battles unless it makes sense, because it needs to be real.
Want an explanation for this rule? Here --> One does most likely not go to Djose ONLY to capture Simurghs. Djose is EZ PZ, so it would be normal to just capture all the fiends you bump into. Good luck doing this in 11 minutes mate.
What I mean by OP is that you have high stats. What you're overpowering for is to capture fiends, so that you can kill them in 1 or maybe just a few hits of 9999 damage. Therefore you're not just reaching endgame requirement, but you're preparing to capture 7000+ fiends in the most efficient and easiest way possible. Also you must be able to kill Monster Arena creations fast and easy, not counting Nemesis.I agree that you need at least 3 leveled characters.
Farming Malboro Menace will most likely only be the fastest way if you follow these guide-lines.
- If the only purpose of leveling up your characters is to farm Malboro, then the method is not going to be fast in any way.
Guidelines..
1. Capture 1 of each fiend in Calm Lands.
2. Focus on leveling up 3 characters, until they have filled out almost the entire Sphere Grid.
3. Capture Besaid.
4. Buy a 4 slot armor for Wakka.
5. Capture thunder plains and customize Auto Haste into Wakkas Armor.
6. Capture rest of the fiends, and you can eventually customize auto-med into wakkas armor.
7. Get Wakka's attack reels, and raise strength + agility for 3 characters until you have 255 strength and 170 agility.
8. Create armor that protects you against Malboro's ambush attack
9. Farm gil from Malboro Menace
I don't know how you play the game, but by the time I finish Zanarkand most of my hitters are close to or at 9,999 damage in basically every playthrough. This literally sounds like a non-issue to me. Maybe you need a better SG route or something?
But that seems horrendously inefficient compared to just capturing regularly without all those hoops. By the time you get 10 of everything in Omega, you have more than enough gil to get everyone their AH/APh/APr/SP armors, which is all you need to kill the Arena and all Dark Aeons. And that is all doing stuff YOU NEED TO DO ANYWAY, which arguably includes One-Eye farming. Why do stuff you DON'T need to do? Unless you want to, like, use Zanmato, or put BHPL on people. In which case, sure, knock yourself out with MM gil farming.
Yes my super long comment there lol do you even Englando?
No, you have put two new lines and one old one in, changing the words of the sentence changes the context of your 'advice' as does the change in post title. You have not proved anything so far and in fact it's been shown your advice is poor as Hinnyuu pointed out you don't know some pretty basic mechanics like stealing and cost of blitzball (that one was great)
Keep going though. I love can't read, won't read!
yeah i want him to keep going too , its just funny how he insists he is better , i mean he literally after all this said ( and edited it again ) that he does see himself as an expert or something
at this point its just laughable , he has been debunked so many times and keeps argueing like hes so much better
i dont even care if he wastes thousands of hours farming malboro menance just to be able to say he can get more gil / minute even if its inefficient
to be honest , since he keeps ignoring me i think ill just go and report this thread now
edit heres my report
I play through the storyline almost the same way as a speedrunner would do it, using the expert SG because I think it looks better in gold. When I'm end game I will hit below 5000, but the expert SG isn't as good as the normal SG, I think. It has lower stat nodes, such as +20 MP instead of +40 MP, and I think there are more +1s and +2s. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I will do some research if I am wrong)
I challenge you to find 2 things on my list that you don't have to do anyway when you're setting up for Malboro.