still 200 lightning bolts for lulu?

[DigginTiger]

As title says, did they finally change the amount of consecutive bolts we've got to dodge in the thunder plains for lulu's celestial weapon or is it exactly the same as on ps2?

this is the worst memory i have from this game...

thanks

[Ash vs. Himself]

Цитата допису roro4066:

Thanks for the replies guys.

Hinnyu, if you're willing to explain how we can use this 3rd program and how to make sure not to get a corrupted save, i'm all ears, tks.

Ash, i'm interested in this mod, could you pls tell us the name so we can look for it.
I guess you've already used it yourself, right? can i remove this mod safely once i got through this hatefull mini gale?

Sure thing pal. This is an old thread where I found the info: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=686011809

It will walk you through everything. But basically, it is something you run before launching the game, then it just does it for you when you get to the thunder plains and stop moving. I had to find a place where I wouldn't jump off the screen, but thirty minutes of jumping backward, you might eventually leave the map.

There are ways to turn the mod off while in game, but instead of uninstalling from the game, you just uninstall it from your PC when you're done.

[Ash vs. Himself]

Цитата допису roro4066:

Thanks for the replies guys.

Hinnyu, if you're willing to explain how we can use this 3rd program and how to make sure not to get a corrupted save, i'm all ears, tks.

Ash, i'm interested in this mod, could you pls tell us the name so we can look for it.
I guess you've already used it yourself, right? can i remove this mod safely once i got through this hatefull mini gale?

P.S. I used it myself. I had to tinker a bit with where to place Tidus to make it work right, but then once I made sure he was dodging correctly, I went and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, had a drink, and I came back and had the nightmare finished. It works as advertised.

[Chaos Residue]

Since his "mod" (third-party program) was the one I referenced, it will probably be better to use Cheat Engine instead. You'll have it done within 10 minutes instead of having to "tinker" with the program to get it to work, and then waiting for Tidus to actually dodge the 200 lightning bolts.

[DigginTiger]

Цитата допису Chaos Residue:

Since his "mod" (third-party program) was the one I referenced, it will probably be better to use Cheat Engine instead. You'll have it done within 10 minutes instead of having to "tinker" with the program to get it to work, and then waiting for Tidus to actually dodge the 200 lightning bolts.

Maybe but for a noob in informatic it's like 2 clicks on 1 hand, VS plethoras of actions on the other hand.

[DigginTiger]

Цитата допису Ash vs. Himself:

Цитата допису roro4066:

Thanks for the replies guys.

Hinnyu, if you're willing to explain how we can use this 3rd program and how to make sure not to get a corrupted save, i'm all ears, tks.

Ash, i'm interested in this mod, could you pls tell us the name so we can look for it.
I guess you've already used it yourself, right? can i remove this mod safely once i got through this hatefull mini gale?

P.S. I used it myself. I had to tinker a bit with where to place Tidus to make it work right, but then once I made sure he was dodging correctly, I went and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, had a drink, and I came back and had the nightmare finished. It works as advertised.

Yeah it's a nightmare lol. what were these japanese developpers smoking?? the concept of these mini games in itself is def not bad it's just the goal you have to achieve that is not appropriate imo.
I see where i'll be using it then: right next to the pampa stone.

Did you just "unsuscribe" or did you have to delete sthing in the game folders ash?

[JackSamEss]

Some things are not created with the idea that they should be attainable by the masses. That is what kind of makes it an "achievement".

I could see an argument being made on the difficulty of obtaining Lulu's ultimate weapon if it was required to help achieve some other challenge in the game, but it's mainly just there for people who enjoy a challenge.

[Ash vs. Himself]

Цитата допису roro4066:

Цитата допису Ash vs. Himself:

P.S. I used it myself. I had to tinker a bit with where to place Tidus to make it work right, but then once I made sure he was dodging correctly, I went and cooked dinner, cleaned the kitchen, had a drink, and I came back and had the nightmare finished. It works as advertised.

Yeah it's a nightmare lol. what were these japanese developpers smoking?? the concept of these mini games in itself is def not bad it's just the goal you have to achieve that is not appropriate imo.
I see where i'll be using it then: right next to the pampa stone.

Did you just "unsuscribe" or did you have to delete sthing in the game folders ash?

I just did an add/remove uninstall of the program when done. I didn't think of anything still remaining in the games folder, but it definitely hasn't impacted anything since I did that (a good 20 games hour ago from where I'm at now).

I think the minigames in this are nuts too. I think back to FF7 chocobo breeding, and that was time consuming and crazy, but definitely not infuriating. I think difficulty over time wasting is the way to go.

[Hinnyuu]

Цитата допису Ash vs. Himself:

I think difficulty over time wasting is the way to go.

Isn't that how many of the minigames in FFX work, though?

It's not like the 0:0:0 Catcher Chocobo or the Butterfly game or 200 dodges really take a lot of time - if you do them perfectly. Where they waste time is IF YOU SCREW UP. Which is opposed to something like Chocobo Breeding, where you'll take a lot of time even if you do everything perfectly, because it's a matter of grinding and/or randomness rather than actually being challenging to do.

[Chaos Residue]

Цитата допису Hinnyuu:

Цитата допису Ash vs. Himself:

I think difficulty over time wasting is the way to go.

Isn't that how many of the minigames in FFX work, though?

It's not like the 0:0:0 Catcher Chocobo or the Butterfly game or 200 dodges really take a lot of time - if you do them perfectly. Where they waste time is IF YOU SCREW UP. Which is opposed to something like Chocobo Breeding, where you'll take a lot of time even if you do everything perfectly, because it's a matter of grinding and/or randomness rather than actually being challenging to do.

I think he meant the opposite. He said:

Цитата допису Ash vs. Himself:

I think back to FF7 chocobo breeding, and that was time consuming and crazy, but definitely not infuriating.

That leads me to believe he would rather the mini game be easier, but more time consuming, versus difficult, but can be accomplished quickly (if you're perfect).

[Hinnyuu]

Okay, fair enough.

Personally, I simply prefer cerebral difficulty over dexterity. Figuring out gear and stat combinations, a fight strategy, that sort of thing - not how quickly you can mash buttons, or how accurately, or how precisely you can move the stick around.

[DigginTiger]

Цитата допису Hinnyuu:

Okay, fair enough.

Personally, I simply prefer cerebral difficulty over dexterity. Figuring out gear and stat combinations, a fight strategy, that sort of thing - not how quickly you can mash buttons, or how accurately, or how precisely you can move the stick around.

yes this is fun, but the 200 lightning things? NOT AT ALL

About those mini games everyone of us has his own nemesis and this fair too. Me personnally i hate the lulu mini game the most, followed by the buterflies, then comes the chocobo race ( which was my most hated one when i played this game for the first time oddly enough, but not anymore)

[Hinnyuu]

Lightning dodging might be the worst minigame in JRPG history (true minigame at least, and not some BS rare item collection thing or whatever).

[Ash vs. Himself]

Цитата допису Chaos Residue:

Цитата допису Hinnyuu:

Isn't that how many of the minigames in FFX work, though?

It's not like the 0:0:0 Catcher Chocobo or the Butterfly game or 200 dodges really take a lot of time - if you do them perfectly. Where they waste time is IF YOU SCREW UP. Which is opposed to something like Chocobo Breeding, where you'll take a lot of time even if you do everything perfectly, because it's a matter of grinding and/or randomness rather than actually being challenging to do.

I think he meant the opposite. He said:

Цитата допису Ash vs. Himself:

I think back to FF7 chocobo breeding, and that was time consuming and crazy, but definitely not infuriating.

That leads me to believe he would rather the mini game be easier, but more time consuming, versus difficult, but can be accomplished quickly (if you're perfect).

No, I was really unclear in retrospect. I hate time consuming stuff, but especially when it's infuriating. The chocobo breeding was definitely time consuming, but it wasn't infuriating. I think I dropped that point without expanding on it. But yeah, either way, I prefer difficulty over time consuming 99 percent of the time.

[Chaos Residue]

Цитата допису Hinnyuu:

Lightning dodging might be the worst minigame in JRPG history (true minigame at least, and not some BS rare item collection thing or whatever).

I can't think of anything that's worse than the Final Fantasy IX jump rope mini-game. At least with the lightning dodge mini-game you only need to get 200 dodges in a row. The jump rope mini-game requires 1,000 jumps in a row, and with the awful timing changes to throw you off.

[pre-eminence]

Цитата допису Chaos Residue:

Цитата допису Hinnyuu:

Lightning dodging might be the worst minigame in JRPG history (true minigame at least, and not some BS rare item collection thing or whatever).

I can't think of anything that's worse than the Final Fantasy IX jump rope mini-game. At least with the lightning dodge mini-game you only need to get 200 dodges in a row. The jump rope mini-game requires 1,000 jumps in a row, and with the awful timing changes to throw you off.

At least on PC if your keyboard is good enough (no delay) you can spam the button to do jump rope legit, or use a auto clicker to do it. But on console, I agree. Jump rope is crazy hard on ps1.