Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Crazy Rattlesnake 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 19분
Blackbeard really useless?
I keep hearing people claim blackbeared is useless and under powered after the nerf of his shield. before the nerf I will admit it was very overpowered but I think that Blackbeared is still a very strong character. Can someone please explain why people keep saying hes useless?
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Læms 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 23분 
well he is useless in a way but not really they just need to buff sheild thats all
Crazy Rattlesnake 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 25분 
Lorekor (🇮🇸)님이 먼저 게시:
well he is useless in a way but not really they just need to buff sheild thats all
I use blackbeard all the time though. I think the shield is perfectly balanced. I mean it has 75 HP and it completely blocks ur head from being shot which is a 1 hit kill. You also have two of them and can change which one at will. I dont see how the shield needs to be buffed.
Fentanyl Czar 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 25분 
Lorekor (🇮🇸)님이 먼저 게시:
well he is useless in a way but not really they just need to buff sheild thats all
HAHAHA no, he was literally the meta beforehand, he doesn't need a buff he's fine the way he is.
you could barely even break the shield & knifing it wouldn't even destroy it lmao.
Crazy Rattlesnake님이 먼저 게시:
Lorekor (🇮🇸)님이 먼저 게시:
well he is useless in a way but not really they just need to buff sheild thats all
I use blackbeard all the time though. I think the shield is perfectly balanced. I mean it has 75 HP and it completely blocks ur head from being shot which is a 1 hit kill. You also have two of them and can change which one at will. I dont see how the shield needs to be buffed.
This.
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CutACrow 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 25분 
When BB first rolled out he was stupidly OP 800HP was too much. Everyone agrees. But when he was at 150HP I felt like he was perfectly fine. Still able to do his job at area denial at windows but can die fairly easy to a fast ROF weapon. I do agree with the dev's nerfing his ADS time because I see alot of BB's running around. Ever since it dropped to 60HP it denys his role, slows him down, 80% of the defenders Rifles are high ROF that just shred them.

If you have a slow and weak operator that's counter is just a pistol from the building into your spawn then you got a problem. There isnt no useless operator I mean you can still kill with BB Just like tachanka before the buff. You CAN use him. but just because you could doesnt mean you should.
cactis 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 25분 
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CutACrow 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 26분 
holl0li님이 먼저 게시:
Lorekor (🇮🇸)님이 먼저 게시:
well he is useless in a way but not really they just need to buff sheild thats all
HAHAHA no, he was literally the meta beforehand, he doesn't need a buff he's fine the way he is.
you could barely even break the shield & knifing it wouldn't even destroy it lmao.
If you knife the shield its connected to his hitbox. One hitting him. His shield should be at 100HP. its a fair balance between 150 (a little much) and 60 (way too little)
Slartibarty 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 42분 
He needs to be able to block a few more bullets, it breaks after 2 usually (depending on the calibur) and players often fire in bursts of 3-4
post apocalypse otter boi 2017년 1월 18일 오후 3시 43분 
no he isn't but he is not goood either :steammocking:
slickrinche 2017년 1월 18일 오후 4시 54분 
"Underpowered" = shield that protects from headshot.....























He's just fine where he is
post apocalypse otter boi 2017년 1월 18일 오후 4시 57분 
Спастический님이 먼저 게시:
"Underpowered" = shield that protects from headshot.....























He's just fine where he is
Right because having a shield that can only block 2-3 bullets in a game where most people shoot at least 4 totaly means he is balanced.
Heroquetarro10 2017년 1월 18일 오후 5시 15분 
Commissar penguin님이 먼저 게시:
Спастический님이 먼저 게시:
"Underpowered" = shield that protects from headshot.....























He's just fine where he is
Right because having a shield that can only block 2-3 bullets in a game where most people shoot at least 4 totaly means he is balanced.
right, like the black beard TOTALLY wouldnt have the upper hand in a trade because of the sheild...
Spirit 2017년 1월 18일 오후 5시 44분 
I would more so say he is balanced than underpowered.
Panic Fire 2017년 1월 18일 오후 5시 48분 
Crazy Rattlesnake님이 먼저 게시:
I keep hearing people claim blackbeared is useless and under powered after the nerf of his shield. before the nerf I will admit it was very overpowered but I think that Blackbeared is still a very strong character. Can someone please explain why people keep saying hes useless?



He was sitting at a decent spot in playability however the devs felt he was still to powerful so they double nerfed him. They dropped his shield down from 3-4 bullets to 1-2 bullets. And then to top it off nerfed his guns useability quite a lot. Making him rather useless unless he was holding an angle however now that his only useability is to hold an angle and his shield doesn't really allow him to hold an angle well. He's pretty much useless.




Heroquetarro10님이 먼저 게시:
Commissar penguin님이 먼저 게시:
Right because having a shield that can only block 2-3 bullets in a game where most people shoot at least 4 totaly means he is balanced.
right, like the black beard TOTALLY wouldnt have the upper hand in a trade because of the sheild...


The problem is blackbeard is designed to hold angles. However he can't hold angles due to how netcode in siege works. Attackers get a brief amount of time to shoot before defenders will even see them, Blackbeards shield allows him to tank that and return fire allowing him to hold an angle that normally would put him at a sever disatvantage. At 120 hp his shields would allow him to do that about twice. With his 60hp shields he is ussually killed in such a situation. The only time he isn't killed is when the enemy is shooting his shield but not his actual head which means he would have lived through it anyway.
post apocalypse otter boi 2017년 1월 18일 오후 5시 52분 
Panic Fire님이 먼저 게시:
Crazy Rattlesnake님이 먼저 게시:
I keep hearing people claim blackbeared is useless and under powered after the nerf of his shield. before the nerf I will admit it was very overpowered but I think that Blackbeared is still a very strong character. Can someone please explain why people keep saying hes useless?



He was sitting at a decent spot in playability however the devs felt he was still to powerful so they double nerfed him. They dropped his shield down from 3-4 bullets to 1-2 bullets. And then to top it off nerfed his guns useability quite a lot. Making him rather useless unless he was holding an angle however now that his only useability is to hold an angle and his shield doesn't really allow him to hold an angle well. He's pretty much useless.




Heroquetarro10님이 먼저 게시:
right, like the black beard TOTALLY wouldnt have the upper hand in a trade because of the sheild...


The problem is blackbeard is designed to hold angles. However he can't hold angles due to how netcode in siege works. Attackers get a brief amount of time to shoot before defenders will even see them, Blackbeards shield allows him to tank that and return fire allowing him to hold an angle that normally would put him at a sever disatvantage. At 120 hp his shields would allow him to do that about twice. With his 60hp shields he is ussually killed in such a situation. The only time he isn't killed is when the enemy is shooting his shield but not his actual head which means he would have lived through it anyway.
People don't seem to understand that bb should be rework ease he is no longer good at what he is supposed to do.
CutACrow 2017년 1월 18일 오후 6시 21분 
Exactly. Black beards function was FOV Area denial and now you cant do that. Hell I was messing around as blackbeard to attempt to prove myself wrong a while back. A caveria rushed outside, shot my shield as I was deploying it mind you and it broke instantly. I have had a few other situations where my shields are broken just as I placed them by standard Handguns. Many say he is balanced but thats because they were victims of the 800HP black beard or not knowing how to counter the 150HP blackbeard (which is stupid easy you just had to wait till he peaks you or explosives or wallbangs or flanks) So yes. He is underpowered. 60 is too little and 150 to the majority is too much. Why not try it in the dead middle? throw 100 HP or 120 HP shields for a little bit and see how that is. His guns are not that good anymore, his gadget is just not the best, and if you consider the ROF of ALL defending operators guns they can spit out 2+ bullets before a BB can react let alone put another shield back on.
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