To clarify what others are saying:

Legacy and Live were advertised as being 2 different versions that the Elite Dangerous team will maintain and run. While they won't add any future content to the Legacy version, it still keeps the galaxy in a state with only Horizons and Beyond content on top of vanilla, exactly how it was before Odyssey came in.

There has been big claims about the new UI that Odyssey brings to be completely tedious to navigate, most notably outfitting taking so much time now on top of other convenience problems related to the design choices, among others. These UI changes are NOT present in the Legacy version, meaning the previous UI design which was relatively much better in many of these aspects is an appealing factor to keep playing this version instead of the Live one for some players.

Another aspect is for those who have spent so much time in the prior version (now called Legacy) can not even transfer their progress over to the Live one even if they wanted to switch. They'd have to start completely from scratch. While there was a time where such a transfer could be possible, it was so early on that any player who wanted to wait and see what the split would become in the future are now at a disadvantage. And you might even lose all your Legacy progress in the process, making a turn around impossible [needs confirmation on that last one].

So some players were just choosing to play the Legacy version instead of the Live one because it might very well be their only choice based on what I mentioned prior. As long as they get to choose to install and play only what they desire to play among the services offered by the team behind the game, then no problem: Legacy players are happy, Live players are happy, and the devs are happy. But for Legacy players only, now that would mean installing some bloat so to speak, since their 20 GB version has now effectively become 70 GB big, with 50 GB of unused content. And while some players might have terabytes of storage space, some other players might only have 50 GB or less to spare, especially with the rise in life cost these days (the money invested in more storage would have been a month's worth of food, for example).

And I know not everyone has read what I just wrote down and went straight to this last paragraph. But if the Legacy version was truly its own version, then it would not need the current version to run it in the first place, which doesn't justify installing 70 GB worth of files for a 20 GB version. There needs to be more transparency on this decision to fully understand why.

I have found some clues that hint on this platform we are discussing on might be the issue in this case. Apparently, before this change, it was the case that players who only wanted to play Live and had removed Legacy from their computer, had to remove it over and over after every update as it was reinstalled on every update.
Players that start their game via the original game launcher without steam interfering never had these issues.

引用自 Dolphin Bottlenose：

引用自 jonah914：

"Live" Is glitchy, not optimised, and does not support VR,

The last statement is absolutely incorrect. Horizons Live has a full VR support, exactly the same way as Horizons Legacy does.

Heh, yeah Dolphin's got you there, mate. xD

引用自 timberwolf2de：

...before this change, it was the case that players who only wanted to play Live and had removed Legacy from their computer, had to remove it over and over after every update as it was reinstalled on every update.

Why not allow the player to choose what version(s) they want and only install what they need for those?

As I see it, the gold standard for handling multiple versions is Minecraft. They let the user pick which version(s) they want across pretty much all of history, and all they get is what they want. And if Mojang can do that (it was like this long before Microsoft), why can't FDev?

Do i have the right version?
Is there a better one?
Do i need these?
How I hate all these fancy names.
Lagacy version, hero version, pure and no ice version and so on.
Why not super duper double boom barrel organ version?
What is all this nonsense?
When I get home after work, I just want to gamble and not go exploring like Indy Jones to see if my paid version is still supported.
Even modders and these are people who do the work in their free time without pay, which paid programmers can't do, use version numbers for their further developed mods.
I find these thrown words just ridiculous.
It would have been a legacy if they had called it Elite, Elite Frontier and Elite Gold.
That would be a legacy.
The way they call Elite now it's just marketing babble.

引用自 perfectlyGoodInk：

It would be far better to let the users decide if they want to uninstall something.

You can buy the game from Frontier and not from Steam. Then you will be in a sole control over what is to be installed and what - removed, and not Steam.

引用自 Buggy Boy：

It looks like they're slowly winding down Legacy, eventually they'll probably just automatically uninstall it and not allow it to be re-installed, then turn off the Legacy servers.

Legacy servers have a five-year CG running due to console compat.


Also, tech hint: you can manually copy-paste the legacy folder somewhere else and then dump it back in after the launcher has updated the symlinks, saving precious bandwidth.
(do make sure to verify files or somesuch; no guarantee it will work in any case just fyi ;)



Edit:
Odyssey is 4.0 only because it needs the new engine to work.


cheers

引用自 timberwolf2de：

I have found some clues that hint on this platform we are discussing on might be the issue in this case. Apparently, before this change, it was the case that players who only wanted to play Live and had removed Legacy from their computer, had to remove it over and over after every update as it was reinstalled on every update.
Players that start their game via the original game launcher without steam interfering never had these issues.

You are correct. Steam do not allow players to disable updates for games anymore.
-that being said, i am also not sure if fdev can add the different versions via steam properties as the downloads are managed by the launcher.

Tbqf i am quite happy i bought directly from fdev as it means zero steam-related issues.

...... so you couldn't even rewrite your own launcher to handle changes in default without deleting peoples data?... or is this one of those "since it's already gone and the other thing is still there might as well use that" psychotricks? :o

Looks like FDevs dont understand, some of us dont want Odissey, not even for free due the VR and performance issues (and looks like you dont care too much about fixing it....),
So now "by default" instead of asking first or give a selection menu BEFORE or an option in Steam as other games do for betas or other game content, you delete the game we play to put the one we dont want, and if after that we can download again the game we play... Uf are looking of new ways to piss off your player base, you nailed it!

Now some stuff i suposse a dev must know but looks like in this case they dont or they forget on purpose. This days people use SSD or NVME drives and both have a limited amount of write cycles, and the newer multicell drives durability is even shorter in most cases, so for now you gonna burn 70 GB of writing on our drives by default, and looking how
incompetent behaviour is showed by the devs im scared this gonna happen again with each patch....

For now im gonna rename the game folder main name, "uninstall" it from steam and wait until devs do their work and fix this thing ( but TBH i have no hope about it), Maybe this is the goal kick the players away and save server costs? Who knows?

Anyway dear Frontier devs, you gonna Frontier us, is just a matter of time we gonna Frontier you.

Regards.

Yeah this. I have absolutely no interest in ever getting Odyssee, even for free. It seems to have way too many issues and still does not improve the base gameplay loop. This game should be F2P if it wants to have a boring grind. And even most of these games improve that grind.

So anyways can I get a refund now? I don't want to play the live version, I don't have or want to purchase Odyssey, I don't want to install Live nor do I want legacy to be uninstalled. So what the ♥♥♥♥ man? Forced updates are already ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but forcing an uninstall? No sir, you know exactly where to shove it. Weak ass ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ move, devs. Weak as ♥♥♥♥.

引用自 Nats：

I wish computer firms wouldnt call things Legacy out of their office, it really makes no sense to 95% of the gaming population. Call it something sensible. Like 'the old version' and the 'new version'. Computer nerds, they really are something else.

legacy : adjective

: of, relating to, or being a previous or outdated computer system

i.e, the old version

引用自 Dolphin Bottlenose：

引用自 perfectlyGoodInk：

It would be far better to let the users decide if they want to uninstall something.

You can buy the game from Frontier and not from Steam. Then you will be in a sole control over what is to be installed and what - removed, and not Steam.

So, I can return the game to Steam that I bought 5 years ago and get it from Frontier and have all my progress in both games retained?

Why is this happening?

I bought E:D (and Horizons) on Steam, but bought Odyssey on the Frontier store. Will that play nice with this approach, I wonder?

Sounds like it'll make it simpler for me, if it does...