Diposting pertama kali oleh Dann_Robb:

so why would they put it on sale then..............

Because there are season sales, so why not to participate in it? This game very often goes on sale. It probably participates in every sale, ran by Steam.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Dann_Robb:

so why would they put it on sale then..............

Because there are season sales, so why not to participate in it? This game very often goes on sale. It probably participates in every sale, ran by Steam.

am i talking too a brick wall, SALES are perfectly fine, putting something on SALE that your about too give away for free is SHADYYYYYYY, its fine if your a forum nerd who reads these things before buying, but i guarantee the majority of buyers don't, so they wouldn't no any better, so therefore its a case of a company milking people of there money, i get that your obvs in love with this game which rightly so its a very good game, but damn how can you support this kinda tactic, d.w elite dangerous are not going too give you lower prices on your mining loot for sticking up for players and outing age old company tactics...

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dann_Robb:

its fine if your a forum nerd who reads these things before buying, but i guarantee the majority of buyers don't, so they wouldn't no any better,

It is not only on forums. The announcement was the very first paragraph of an "about the DLC" part of the DLC sale page for the whole month before it became free.

If the majority of buyers don't read what they are buying on the page where they are buying it, then they deserve every losses that come with it, until they will start reading.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dolphin Bottlenose:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dann_Robb:

its fine if your a forum nerd who reads these things before buying, but i guarantee the majority of buyers don't, so they wouldn't no any better,

It is not only on forums. The announcement was the very first paragraph of an "about the DLC" part of the DLC sale page for the whole month before it became free.

If the majority of buyers don't read what they are buying on the page where they are buying it, then they deserve every losses that come with it, until they will start reading.

OH THE MONTH before wow well wasn't that kind of them, what about the month before that when they also had another sale, and don't use the excuse '' they probably didn't think about giving it away for free at that stage '' excuse they would of known full well every player would needed too of had horizons and the ability too land on planets etc too even be able too use there space legs, i still can't believe your making excuses up for them man xD like i keep saying personally i don't care it don't affect me i have owned horizons on multiple platforms since its release and i'm not going too use the terrible looking skin there giving too try dull down there reasoning of giving it away for free, and if you can't see that's why they are ''giving'' the skin too horizon owners we have nothing more too say on the matter, personally it's not going too stop me buying the new pass but please believe ill wait for it too discount the month after its released too buy it, i get they got too make money blar blar but there are honest ways of doing it, and there are dishonest ways of doing it, and its safe too say they took the dishonest way when putting horizons on sale before giving it away for free.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dann_Robb:

OH THE MONTH before wow well wasn't that kind of them, what about the month before that when they also had another sale,

And for those who bought it more than one month in advance, the discounted price of $7 is good enough to pay for the game, even if that game is going to be free in 1+month.

Most of subscription services, like music streaming, or even that EvE Online game (before it went free) cost you like $9.95 per month. And you can't even use those services anymore, when you stop paying.

So, paying $7 for a month+ use of Horizons, and keeping the ability to use it, is nothing for people to complain about. It is well within the range of prices people spend on their entertainment these days.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dolphin Bottlenose:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dann_Robb:

OH THE MONTH before wow well wasn't that kind of them, what about the month before that when they also had another sale,

And for those who bought it more than one month in advance, the discounted price of $7 is good enough to pay for the game, even if that game is going to be free in 1+month.

Most of subscription services, like music streaming, or even that EvE Online game (before it went free) cost you like $9.95 per month. And you can't even use those services anymore, when you stop paying.

So, paying $7 for a month+ use of Horizons, and keeping the ability to use it, is nothing for people to complain about. It is well within the range of prices people spend on their entertainment these days.

wow your actually coming up with every excuse haha, comparing buying a ''dlc pass'' too a pay too play subscription is a whole different world pal xD especially for those of us who would never pay monthly subscriptions that is a silly comparison

PROPS for trying though <3

@Dann_Robb I get a lot of what you're saying man. One reason I think this is a really bad move, isn't anything to do with myself or my buying the DLC and it now being 'free', it's this:

Having old DLC cost permanently less in future and/or being on sale in the future, is one thing. Making it totally free and part of the base game is crazy imo.

With Odyssey now coming up, and given all the hype and wonder around Horizons that I felt, but now looking back over the whole course of the DLC to it now being totally part of the base game:

For players like me and probably others, I'm now thinking, instead of waiting for the next DLC to be established and also maybe on sale, I might just now wait totally until it's eventually also free.

And now there's all sorts of cosmetic options, a ship skin is the last thing I'd want... a decal, a voice pack, or a dashboard item instead?

Imagine if they gave away a voice pack, that was then on sale for a fairly high amount; either you bought the DLC and got it, or if you missed it, you can buy it or leave it, your choice.

Then I'd be thinking, if I skip this DLC til it's free, I'll miss out on something cool too.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dolphin Bottlenose:

So, paying $7 for a month+ use of Horizons, and keeping the ability to use it, is nothing for people to complain about. It is well within the range of prices people spend on their entertainment these days.

That is not a good way of putting it. There are many people playing E:D right now, that would consider $7 a lot of money. And although I myself am in the UK, working 6 days a week and just bought a new pc and phone recently, my income is from self-employment and even just since I was solvent enough to buy a pc, there have been two weeks where the situation changed and I couldn't have spent £5 on anything, let alone entertainment.

The issue is, once Odyssey was announced, if they were going to make Horizons free, they should have done so before or at the time of announcing Odyssey. They knew releasing news of a new DLC would itself generate sales of the base game and the DLC.

They should at least give people that bought the DLC after Odyssey was announced credit for their content store. The negative effect on people that paid for the DLC just before it was made free will cost them more in the long run than the money they keep from those sales.

Saying 'it was announced on the store page for the dlc' like some people have said, is a really poor excuse too. If anything, having the item on sale for real money at any price whilst having news of it being made free soon after on the same page is shameful; why not switch the DLC to free DLC, before it's totally merged, at that point?

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dolphin Bottlenose:

So, paying $7 for a month+ use of Horizons, and keeping the ability to use it, is nothing for people to complain about. It is well within the range of prices people spend on their entertainment these days.

That is not a good way of putting it. There are many people playing E:D right now, that would consider $7 a lot of money. And although I myself am in the UK, working 6 days a week and just bought a new pc and phone recently, my income is from self-employment and even just since I was solvent enough to buy a pc, there have been two weeks where the situation changed and I couldn't have spent £5 on anything, let alone entertainment.

The issue is, once Odyssey was announced, if they were going to make Horizons free, they should have done so before or at the time of announcing Odyssey. They knew releasing news of a new DLC would itself generate sales of the base game and the DLC.

They should at least give people that bought the DLC after Odyssey was announced credit for their content store. The negative effect on people that paid for the DLC just before it was made free will cost them more in the long run than the money they keep from those sales.

Saying 'it was announced on the store page for the dlc' like some people have said, is a really poor excuse too. If anything, having the item on sale for real money at any price whilst having news of it being made free soon after on the same page is shameful; why not switch the DLC to free DLC, before it's totally merged, at that point?

I completely agree with this; very well-put.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

Having old DLC cost permanently less in future and/or being on sale in the future, is one thing. Making it totally free and part of the base game is crazy imo.

Making Horizon free isn't crazy at all,many MMOs make their last DLC free or included when a new one is released.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

With Odyssey now coming up, and given all the hype and wonder around Horizons that I felt, but now looking back over the whole course of the DLC to it now being totally part of the base game:

For players like me and probably others, I'm now thinking, instead of waiting for the next DLC to be established and also maybe on sale, I might just now wait totally until it's eventually also free.

And now there's all sorts of cosmetic options, a ship skin is the last thing I'd want... a decal, a voice pack, or a dashboard item instead?

Imagine if they gave away a voice pack, that was then on sale for a fairly high amount; either you bought the DLC and got it, or if you missed it, you can buy it or leave it, your choice.

Then I'd be thinking, if I skip this DLC til it's free, I'll miss out on something cool too.

If you have a problem with missing out on items because you waited for the DLC to be free,then just buy the DLC. No one has a problem with you waiting 3 to 5 years to save $30 on DLC,but if you do do that you suffer the consequences.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

@Dann_Robb I get a lot of what you're saying man. One reason I think this is a really bad move, isn't anything to do with myself or my buying the DLC and it now being 'free', it's this:

Having old DLC cost permanently less in future and/or being on sale in the future, is one thing. Making it totally free and part of the base game is crazy imo.

With Odyssey now coming up, and given all the hype and wonder around Horizons that I felt, but now looking back over the whole course of the DLC to it now being totally part of the base game:

For players like me and probably others, I'm now thinking, instead of waiting for the next DLC to be established and also maybe on sale, I might just now wait totally until it's eventually also free.

And now there's all sorts of cosmetic options, a ship skin is the last thing I'd want... a decal, a voice pack, or a dashboard item instead?

Imagine if they gave away a voice pack, that was then on sale for a fairly high amount; either you bought the DLC and got it, or if you missed it, you can buy it or leave it, your choice.

Then I'd be thinking, if I skip this DLC til it's free, I'll miss out on something cool too.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dolphin Bottlenose:

So, paying $7 for a month+ use of Horizons, and keeping the ability to use it, is nothing for people to complain about. It is well within the range of prices people spend on their entertainment these days.

That is not a good way of putting it. There are many people playing E:D right now, that would consider $7 a lot of money. And although I myself am in the UK, working 6 days a week and just bought a new pc and phone recently, my income is from self-employment and even just since I was solvent enough to buy a pc, there have been two weeks where the situation changed and I couldn't have spent £5 on anything, let alone entertainment.

The issue is, once Odyssey was announced, if they were going to make Horizons free, they should have done so before or at the time of announcing Odyssey. They knew releasing news of a new DLC would itself generate sales of the base game and the DLC.

They should at least give people that bought the DLC after Odyssey was announced credit for their content store. The negative effect on people that paid for the DLC just before it was made free will cost them more in the long run than the money they keep from those sales.

Saying 'it was announced on the store page for the dlc' like some people have said, is a really poor excuse too. If anything, having the item on sale for real money at any price whilst having news of it being made free soon after on the same page is shameful; why not switch the DLC to free DLC, before it's totally merged, at that point?

yeah this is exactly what i'm saying mate, like it don't personally affect me but id imagine for a lot of people especially in current climate money isn't something you want too just go and waste, the skin in my opinion is a extremely poor way of saying THANKS for supporting us in the past here's a wack skin for you too shove up your a** now we are going too give everyone else this for free so hopefully they will think about buying the newest one instead of the previous pass

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

And although I myself am in the UK, working 6 days a week and just bought a new pc and phone recently, my income is from self-employment and even just since I was solvent enough to buy a pc, there have been two weeks where the situation changed and I couldn't have spent £5 on anything, let alone entertainment.

Then you wouldn't have been buying Horizons, at the first place. And so the point of it being too much for you to spend on is moot. It's either ok for you to spend that much, and then you buy it. Or it is too much for you to spend on, and then you don't.

But after you bought it, its resale value is £0 - you can't resale it. So for you it doesn't matter if the game later becomes free or not - you wouldn't be able to sale it in any case. There is no "the DLC lost its value" in FDevs making it free. The value is already 0 after you bought it.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dolphin Bottlenose:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shanks:

And although I myself am in the UK, working 6 days a week and just bought a new pc and phone recently, my income is from self-employment and even just since I was solvent enough to buy a pc, there have been two weeks where the situation changed and I couldn't have spent £5 on anything, let alone entertainment.

Then you wouldn't have been buying Horizons, at the first place. And so the point of it being too much for you to spend on is moot. It's either ok for you to spend that much, and then you buy it. Or it is too much for you to spend on, and then you don't.

But after you bought it, its resale value is £0 - you can't resale it. So for you it doesn't matter if the game later becomes free or not - you wouldn't be able to sale it in any case. There is no "the DLC lost its value" in FDevs making it free. The value is already 0 after you bought it.

your literally making no sense anymore but that's your opinion so its whatever

The most expensive useless paintjob I ever bought. What a scam.

Tbh I beleive it was done to make programming easier: they will have base game and one dlc, instead of base game and two dlcs.

Still, one measly paintjob is a very low effort content. I was going to buy Odyssey but not anymore. Because I don't really need another paintjob once it becomes free as well.