Pricing is weird

[lyndonguitar]

Europe cheaper than US

SEA, Russia, Brazil, etc, not cheaper.

Please try to consider revising the prices and maybe i'll consider buying, thanks.

I think it will actually help their sales by making the game cheaper on certain countries, like Steam and other publishers did, it has regional locking anyway so no more russian game sellers, etc

most of the publishers do regional pricing, now so I guess it really does work, as people who would never buy a certain game at full price will now do so. personally speaking I would have spent less on steam if they hadn't added regional prices for my country

with regional locking now in place, it is even more effective.

[DANGDUT]

Well, I just mark as 'Not Interested'. I hope it doesn't hurt someone, specially the DEVs.

[AI_AB]

The prices are approximately the same for all regions. And speaking of Steam, they are never going to add regional price for my country. So what should I do?

[Smiling Spectre]

AI_AB, there is one important difference: you can see Elite in line of other 60$ games. I am, in Russia, see one single game that costs one and a half price of any other, even most expensive Steam game. That's all. :)

(Also, I am senior system administrator in the government structure, and my month income is 350$. Most of other workers in my organization have much less salary. It can explain, maybe, why I found 60$ is slightly too much for the game, why other Steam publishers lowered their price - and why our lowered prices is not so benefitial as you think. :)

[Rabob]

Originally posted by Smiling Spectre:

AI_AB, there is one important difference: you can see Elite in line of other 60$ games. I am, in Russia, see one single game that costs one and a half price of any other, even most expensive Steam game. That's all. :)

(Also, I am senior system administrator in the government structure, and my month income is 350$. Most of other workers in my organization have much less salary. It can explain, maybe, why I found 60$ is slightly too much for the game, why other Steam publishers lowered their price - and why our lowered prices is not so benefitial as you think. :)

I can understand for region locked countries. However, if the EU-US region and other transferable regions are the same price I think it is most honest to everyone. If publishers don't set an equal price, resellers from the cheap currencies/countries sell the games on third party sites for a lower price and transfer the games through gifting for instance. That is what was going on with Russia before the region lock. And still is going on between US-EU-Japan-Nor etc etc.

What some companies do not understand is: They do not only hurt their customer perspective of what the game is worth (since they sell it for different prices). They also hurt their sales, because a lot of people will buy the cheaper third party steam key rather than buying it directly from steam.

[Smiling Spectre]

Well, Rabob, being in the Russia, I can definitely insist of necessity of lowered price. Good for me, eh? ;)

[Rabob]

Originally posted by Smiling Spectre:

Well, Rabob, being in the Russia, I can definitely insist of necessity of lowered price. Good for me, eh? ;)

Because of the region lock, yes you can get a lower price. Russian consumers do not lose out because of the region lock (unless you move countries).
Before the region lock, no.

Because it would mean I could buy the same game in Russia for 1/4 the price and use it in EU. So the company would lose out on a lot of revenue for the same sales. These resellers are huge party's and price difference can be huge. Even nowadays I still find 50% price differences after discount!

If the region lock was removed again: The lowest global price = the price that should be set for all regions. If this is not true, one can buy in another country and simply activite in his own country (Buy in Russia, activate in US).

In short: the company can set a different price for Russia because of the region lock if they feel like it would promote sales/profit. However, this is at their own discretion. In the case of Brazil I can imagine the prices being higher due to tariffs/taxes. I can also imagine they set the same price, because a lower price hurts customer's price perspective of the game.

[Smiling Spectre]

Originally posted by Rabob:

In short: the company can set a different price for Russia because of the region lock if they feel like it would promote sales/profit. However, this is at their own discretion.

You are totally right, Rabob. Only thing that you seems missed is the range of price difference. With the current pricing Elite is 1.5 price of most expensive games in Russian Steam (3000 roubles against 2000 in Civ: BE, GTA5 and such). And similar is true for Brasil - only much less high priced games there than here. So Elite, being too expensive, also now is like single peak in hills: it's too noticeable, so too prone to criticism. And have highest chance against buying, even from people who have enough money.

[Damn Dirty Ape]

LOL. Frontier will NOT be lowering their prices for anybody, I can guarantee you that! There would be Hell to pay from original backers. And uhhhh FYI region lock doesn't work on a game where everyone interacts within one server. So there goes your argument for that too, I guess.

[Damn Dirty Ape]

But to make you feel better, the game is feature less and becomes boring very quickly. What they DO have in place is a beautiful shell of a game but to have any extended fun in the game you will have to not only wait until the distant future but you will also have to pay for expansions.

So maybe you are best off not purchasing.

[Smiling Spectre]

Originally posted by SpaceApe:

LOL. Frontier will NOT be lowering their prices for anybody, I can guarantee you that! There would be Hell to pay from original backers. And uhhhh FYI region lock doesn't work on a game where everyone interacts within one server. So there goes your argument for that too, I guess.

Umm... Of course, I have no idea how exactly it works in Elite, but all other games simply cannot be started for me, if they are forbidden in the Russia. Moreover, they are hidden in my library, even if I have it! For example, Path of Exile, for some obscure reasons, was removed from the Russian Steam soon after release. I have it installed, and it even updates now and then - but it is invisible in my library, and attempt to start it directly from EXE ends only in "This game is not available in the your region". PoE is not enough online for you? ;)

[The_Punisher]

Guyz just wait a bit for a steam sale. Also because of how the money conversion is right now the 49.99 euro end up a few dollars cheaper then buyin in Us dollars. For russian its cheaper you just need to buy a key from a safe big key selling site. Note that Russian keys are region locked not Global like Eu and Us ones.

[The_Punisher]

If you didn't understood what i just said don't buy Russia keys if you don't live in Russia,Belarus or Ukraine. Otherwise you might get stuck with a useless key.

[NLS]

Sadly, I doubt FD are ever gonna put it on sale, or consider regional pricing. I myself have a steady economy and live in one of the richest countries in Europe (and bought the game full price before launch), but I do honestly feel for anyone outside EU/US who due to lower GDP and/or personal income are 1. Gonna have a hard time paying for ED, 2. already have regional pricing on pretty much all games, meaning that ED is priced WAY above their normal spending options.

This IS gonna hurt FD, seeing as a lot of people outside EU/US are gonna have a hard time prioritising this game over 2 other AAA games any given month. I don't give a damn if someone else gets to pay less for the same product as I, what I do care about is an increasing community. There are several reasons as for why everyone else does regional pricing, and it's not out of charity, it's out of profit, because everyone else knows that regional pricing is gonna win you those x thousands of sales you otherwise wouldn't get. FD are losing out on those extra sales out of their own "integrity", the community is losing out on potentially new and fresh members, and potential customers are losing out on a truly magnificent game.

[Chaunsey]

this is a kickstarted game, living in russia should not mean you get to buy the game for less money than someone who backed the game and had to pay the full price.

[Smiling Spectre]

Originally posted by The_Punisher:

For russian its cheaper you just need to buy a key from a safe big key selling site. Note that Russian keys are region locked not Global like Eu and Us ones.

Problem is, with Elite it doesn't work. It is the same 60$ for everyone - Russians included - so no "big selling sites" for us. :)