ARX

[Demon]

It's been a bit but does Frontier still give ARX for logging and playing the game?

Thank you for any information on this.......o7

[Inscydeus]

Yes, 400 a week.

[Stoned Henge]

It's max 400!!!

[ждун]

when a paintjob costs 10k, 400 per week is nothing, so it doesn't really matter.

[Kobs]

Oh look at the nice monkeys ... here I'll throw them peanuts

Same goes for the architect payments... peanuts

[Sighman]

Originally posted by ждун:

when a paintjob costs 10k, 400 per week is nothing, so it doesn't really matter.

Imagine if they gave away 5000 arx a week and nobody ever had to buy any.

If I was running a business and an employee suggested that genius idea, I'd fire them.

[Tinkuwu]

Originally posted by Sighman:

Originally posted by ждун:

when a paintjob costs 10k, 400 per week is nothing, so it doesn't really matter.

Imagine if they gave away 5000 arx a week and nobody ever had to buy any.

If I was running a business and an employee suggested that genius idea, I'd fire them.

But you don't run a business, and relationship with customers is a good thing to have.

Look at Valve, they keep doing things that help us, such as forcing devs to tell us if AI is in games. If they just said "Nah, make them pay to see if games have AI, and slap on a monthly service fee to play their games online" a lot of people would quickly be upset with Valve and overall they'd make less money with their reputation ruined.

[Sighman]

Originally posted by Tinkuwu:

Originally posted by Sighman:

Imagine if they gave away 5000 arx a week and nobody ever had to buy any.

If I was running a business and an employee suggested that genius idea, I'd fire them.

But you don't run a business, and relationship with customers is a good thing to have.

Look at Valve, they keep doing things that help us, such as forcing devs to tell us if AI is in games. If they just said "Nah, make them pay to see if games have AI, and slap on a monthly service fee to play their games online" a lot of people would quickly be upset with Valve and overall they'd make less money with their reputation ruined.

Valve are taking 30% of every game sold through their store front.

An analogy to your idea would be that every time there's a Steam sale, Valve doesn't get their cut. Good customer relationship!

Except it's even worse, because your suggestion for more free arx takes away Frontier's only ongoing income from players. It's like suggesting Valve lowers the cost of all games by 30% and doesn't take a cut at all.

And for the record, I do run a business, and I've been self-employed doing so for 20 years now.

[⎝⧹Za Furan⧸⎠]

Originally posted by Sighman:

Originally posted by ждун:

when a paintjob costs 10k, 400 per week is nothing, so it doesn't really matter.

Imagine if they gave away 5000 arx a week and nobody ever had to buy any.

If I was running a business and an employee suggested that genius idea, I'd fire them.

But considering that they raised he price of everything a few monts ago they should give more ARX every week. If I remember correctly the cheapest paintjob cost 1600 ARX and even some of them 600 ARXm now the cheapest ones cost 2500 or so (I don't remember the number). I'm not saying that they should give 5000 a week, but at least 1200 would be nice. And also, they should participate more frequently in Twitch drops. I got a nice paint job for my Anaconda in Twitch drops for free. :)

[Rominet]

Originally posted by Sighman:

Originally posted by ждун:

when a paintjob costs 10k, 400 per week is nothing, so it doesn't really matter.

Imagine if they gave away 5000 arx a week and nobody ever had to buy any.

If I was running a business and an employee suggested that genius idea, I'd fire them.

Imagine you pay for a game and his extension and you need to pay even more for paintjobs, customs, etc...

5000 arx is nothing when you see all the things you can buy at the shop and their prices, so 400 arx is a joke yes.
And even if the limit was 5000, you still need to play to reach the limit if you play 1 hours a week you will never reach the limit.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Rominet:

Imagine you pay for a game and his extension and you need to pay even more for paintjobs, customs, etc...

There's your mistake.

You don't need any of the cosmetics, for any purpose. ARX are an entirely optional way of helping to support the game.

[ProtoShel]

400 arx is very little, but that's kinda the nature of the beast of this style of monetization: it encourages people to spend money on the game rather than grinding arx (possibly for literal months), and it helps encourage player retention somewhat.

It could also be worse, it could be like darktide where all the premium cosmetics are locked behind a premium currency that you have NO ability to earn.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Tinkuwu:

But you don't run a business, and relationship with customers is a good thing to have.

Look at Valve, they keep doing things that help us, such as forcing devs to tell us if AI is in games. If they just said "Nah, make them pay to see if games have AI, and slap on a monthly service fee to play their games online" a lot of people would quickly be upset with Valve and overall they'd make less money with their reputation ruined.

A good relationship with your customers, is utterly useless; if you don't make enough money to keep the business going...

And using Valve is a terrible example. Steam is a money printing machine, spitting out money significantly faster than you or I could count it.

Valve could stop working today, never do a single bit of work again; and they'd still keep printing millions of dollars every day with their 30% cut of all sales on Steam. That's not hyperbole either... They sell something like 1.5 million games per day (probably more by now). They don't even make the VAST majority of the games they're selling, they just get truckloads of money dumped at their feet for other companys games. They can just put their feet up, or swim around in piles of cash like Scrooge McDuck.

Most gamedevs (even a lot of the big name ones) don't have that option...