just tried to get into this game but these controls...

[とも]

i don't think i've ever met such unintuitive mk controls before, even in early 2000 games.
that the ship rolls on mouse left and moves left on A instead of just switching this around is driving me insane.
is there some kind of other template i can find and use instead? i don't see any other presets in the options and this is actually breaking my brain.

[Merkenjian]

Options-Controls-Ship Controls-Mouse controls-switch to yaw instead of roll.

[Devilish Dave]

Input devices ranked from Worst to Best:
1. MKB
2. Console Controllers
3. HOTAS
4. HOSAS

This is definitely not a game that can be enjoyed fully on a MKB, I can't ever imagine playing any driving game with a MKB let alone flying.

[とも]

Originally posted by Merkenjian:

Options-Controls-Ship Controls-Mouse controls-switch to yaw instead of roll.

does it automatically assign a new roll then? it's not Q/e or A/D.

[Devilish Dave]

Originally posted by tomo:

Originally posted by Merkenjian:

Options-Controls-Ship Controls-Mouse controls-switch to yaw instead of roll.

does it automatically assign a new roll then? it's not Q/e or A/D.

No, you'll have to manually add a new roll.

[とも]

Originally posted by Devilish Dave:

Input devices ranked from Worst to Best:
1. MKB
2. Console Controllers
3. HOTAS
4. HOSAS

This is definitely not a game that can be enjoyed fully on a MKB, I can't ever imagine playing any driving game with a MKB let alone flying.

well it used to do me well enough in arma, been a pretty alright pilot if i can blow some smoke up my own.

[Planewalker]

^ yaw-roll and "Relative Mouse" are important if playing m/kb.

I've a long-standing theory that the controls are un-intuitive in order to force people to change them. XD

Setting up controls in elite is a rite of passage fer sure.

You can find layouts and/or print your own here:
https://edrefcard.info


The manual also has most keybinds listed, you can find an updated version here:
https://thecakeisaliegaming.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/getting-started-in-elite-dangerous-a-guide/


cheers

[Devilish Dave]

Originally posted by tomo:

Originally posted by Devilish Dave:

Input devices ranked from Worst to Best:
1. MKB
2. Console Controllers
3. HOTAS
4. HOSAS

This is definitely not a game that can be enjoyed fully on a MKB, I can't ever imagine playing any driving game with a MKB let alone flying.

well it used to do me well enough in arma, been a pretty alright pilot if i can blow some smoke up my own.

Then you must have gotten used to it.

I remember playing Need For Speed on a Keyboard, but then I played Burnout on a controller, so when I had to play NFS on a keyboard again, it just never again felt the same. So I got myself a controller and now that's what I use even for Elite, not the best option, but if I get a HOSAS, I want to actually build around it, like a moving cockpit and stuff.

But then good luck with the mouse controls, you can pretty much change everything, it's more about convenience. There is a button that can switch you from two sort of flight settings, one being your standard and the other being your alternative. Perhaps this feature can help you and you can switch when you need to?

[SillyWalk]

A few times that I've seen people suggesting kb/m changes for new players is monstly only swapping roll and yaw, so the mouse aims like a normal fps. I think I've also seen people suggesting switching q/e (lateral throttle) with a/d (roll after doing the previous change), but this one is minor.

After playing a bit, you will notice that the flight model is designed so ships feel like flying airplanes, with roll > pitch > yaw in terms of rotation speed, so I understand why they thought of choosing this default scheme, but I don't like it either. iirc, Ace Combat 7 has exactly the same kbm mapping for forward throttle/pitch/roll/yaw.

[とも]

thanks for the replies.

just the rolling was such a disorientating experience, i feared it's going to get much more confusing with the control preset. i'm also not sure about all settings meanings but i think it will be managable.

Originally posted by Planewalker:

The manual also has most keybinds listed, you can find an updated version here:
https://thecakeisaliegaming.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/getting-started-in-elite-dangerous-a-guide/
cheers

also a thing is that lots of guides are usually several years old and i'm never sure if going through them will still be relevant today, but i guess this 2015/2021 one is still up to date?

[Niall]

Use you scroll wheel for throttle, increments of 12.5%. Mouse side buttons for forward and backward thrust. Q and E for roll. WASD for vertical and lateral thrusters Pitch and yaw on the mouse. relative mouse (adjust setting to your liking). C for chaff, V for heatsink and B for shield cell bank.

I find this the best for playing with M+KB when I am working away. I got HOTAS for at home :)

[SpudNoggin]

I found this helpful when switching from hotas to kbm.

Efficient Keyboard and Mouse Controls 

A Guide for Elite Dangerous

By: Necro

This is a control scheme for Elite Dangerous CMDRs who are rocking the keyboard and mouse, yet feel as if the default controls are lacking and inefficient.

[frumple]

Setting up keyboard, mouse, and HOTAS bindings, Setup Controls. 

A Guide for Elite Dangerous

By: Ronnie

This is a short guide on how to create control binding schemes in Elite Dangerous. You can go to https:/edrefcard.info to find mappings and then copy them into your setup.

I used this before i even started up the Sidey.


I agree about controls being all over the place.
Still remember the dream X3 Reunion was to fly. ED is ... not that but it's good once you get your controls under control.

Don't even think about combat before you get used to your ship.
Fly, land on planets, learn to use the scanners and fire groups. Learn to RUN AWAY because combat requires an investemnt in equipment and knowledge of how to use it.

Once you do get an itch to fight something, go through the combat tutorials. They're good, and they're a consequence free test bed for your controls.
Practise staying on an opponents six for 5 minutes without even firing. Just learn how to do that before you venture out into bounty hunting or piracy. My 2c anyway


edit - oh, ffs bind Boost / Supercruise Overcharge to a button you will NOT hit by mistake. And make sure nothing else binds to that.
I use Backspace because it is out of the way of everything but that may not be to everyone's taste.

[Planewalker]

Originally posted by tomo:

also a thing is that lots of guides are usually several years old and i'm never sure if going through them will still be relevant today, but i guess this 2015/2021 one is still up to date?

Created in 2015, updated in 2021 so yes it is quite up to date.

Btw, in your cockpit, right side menu (Internal Panel) - default key {4}
CODEX and pilots handbook describes a lot of things in the game.
There are also training scenarios; some of those are outdated.


You can even have quite a few of the codex entries read aloud while playing.

Media player is on the last page of the same panel. (click entry in codex - add to playlist)
Media player controls on first page too on the bottom.


I highly recommend exploring the interface in elite; click menus and read the descriptions.
Cargo and materials in the inventory can also be clicked for more information.
Same goes for the Navigation menu on your left side in the cockpit.
Details are available in a lot of places ingame.

Shortcut primer:

1 = External menu
2 = Comms menu
3 = Role menu
4 = Internal menu

Two things: find and unbind the "Eject all Cargo" keybind, or set it to something obscure.
"Target next system in route" is the most important keybind in the game, learn it well.


cheers

[Gropax]

Originally posted by Devilish Dave:

Input devices ranked from Worst to Best:
1. MKB
2. Console Controllers
3. HOTAS
4. HOSAS

This is definitely not a game that can be enjoyed fully on a MKB, I can't ever imagine playing any driving game with a MKB let alone flying.

you forgot Stick and keyboard its almost the same as a hotas might even be better since you can use your left hand to do thrusters with WASD.

[Devilish Dave]

Originally posted by Gropax:

Originally posted by Devilish Dave:

Input devices ranked from Worst to Best:
1. MKB
2. Console Controllers
3. HOTAS
4. HOSAS

This is definitely not a game that can be enjoyed fully on a MKB, I can't ever imagine playing any driving game with a MKB let alone flying.

you forgot Stick and keyboard its almost the same as a hotas might even be better since you can use your left hand to do thrusters with WASD.

You're right, I guess you can combine them.

For Star Wars Battlefront I flew with a controller, but did the FPS bit with MKB 😂