Your Dream Ship?

[EverySingleTime]

Now that Fdev is bringing new shios, what could convince you to open your wallet? Easy for me. Small ship that is at least comparable to the Courier in agility/speed, nice cockpit, 5 or 6 small hardpoints.

[Un1k0rn]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

I don't mind, and will in fact be happy, if they use the generated funds to get ED off life support and give it the development it's deserved since Horizons.

Hopefully we get ships with hardpoints that aren't facing forward so turrets finally have a reason to exist that isn't niche.

A little over a year ago I'd have agreed with you about the game being on life support. The resident white knights might not like it, but the relative radio silence from Frontier at the time really wasn't a good look.

However in the last year or so it's rather apparent that "life support" is no longer a fair speculative comment to make for Elite. I am saying this as someone who still believes that at the time, that was a fair way to describe things.

A significant change in direction, yes, and not all for the best IMO, but certainly no "maintenance mode" (New content is pretty much a disqualifying factor alone here)

[Kobs]

I'd like to be able to buy those ships between regular ships and a fleet carrier, can't remember what they're called but come on devs, they're there put them up for grabs

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by Kobs:

I'd like to be able to buy those ships between regular ships and a fleet carrier, can't remember what they're called but come on devs, they're there put them up for grabs

I guess you mean the capital ships.

About time FD added an Alliance one. Fed and Imps got theirs at launch, and here we are, 10 years later, and the Alliance still don't have one.

For shame!

[Un1k0rn]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Originally posted by Kobs:

I'd like to be able to buy those ships between regular ships and a fleet carrier, can't remember what they're called but come on devs, they're there put them up for grabs

I guess you mean the capital ships.

About time FD added an Alliance one. Fed and Imps got theirs at launch, and here we are, 10 years later, and the Alliance still don't have one.

For shame!

I mean, you're comparing two singular nations of enormous size to what amounts to Space EU. Like the real EU, there's no real unified military force, rather a banner that's flown in the name of it by various member systems.

Meanwhile the two superpowers have massive, unified military forces that includes the capacity to build massive warships.

It's why the US Navy has 11 nuclear carriers, whilst the EU has 1 in total, and that falls under the service of France first, EU second, anyway.

To be honest, it's quite believable military structure to see that the Alliance lacks such vessels, taking into consideration the type of politics at play.

[Kobs]

I meant those ships, there's a few like that we can just see not use. They could give them like 1/4 of the jump range of the FC's 100 150 Ly. it could carry 1 medium size ship. I'm not buying a FC but I'd get one of those... even for arx

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386808235

[Un1k0rn]

Originally posted by Kobs:

I meant those ships, there's a few like that we can just see not use. They could give them like 1/4 of the jump range of the FC's 100 150 Ly. it could carry 1 medium size ship. I'm not buying a FC but I'd get one of those... even for arx

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386808235

Could it?

It doesn't even have landing pads designed for player use.

Things are easy to make and propose when you're not the one making them.

[NothingFancy]

Battle Cruiser Update i'd pay for, more large pad ships i'd pay for, i enjoy the freedom it allows me to be a bit more carefree in game vs when i'm in my anaconda that has a 25m rebuy i edit the prebuilts to custom how i like em and rebuy never more than 1m :D

[cswiger]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

You're not going to make a 150t hull come close to my Courier which, with a combat build, pulls 850m/s and flips 180 in ~1s. Go try to make it happen in Coriolis.

3A EP is faster, but not more maneuverable. A Cobra V with a 4A thruster has a roll time of 0.9 seconds vs 1.1 s for the Imp Courier, and pitch time is 3.3 s vs 6.0 s.

Note that you can strip out all weapons and optional components and use a 3A EP drive on the Cobra V. But just barely-- you can't even afford the mass to tune it and thus it does worse than non-engineered 4A drive, much less one at G5 dirty+drag.

PS: Do you have a link to a Imp Courier build you'd recommend for combat?

I played around a bit, but the builds I was looking at seemed to be running pretty hot. Regardless, I don't want to judge this or any other ship only by the numbers in a ship builder website-- I'd rather put one together and fly it in-game.

[EverySingleTime]

A larger ship class would, assuming they are combat vessels, require a reasonable amount of new content to interact with as no current combat scenarios would be compelling for them. I doubt that's coming next year. We'll probably just see popular classics getting curbstomped for the cash. Incoming FDL mk2.

[Vale]

A new size-class for ships.

We have Small, Medium, and Large. We could get "Huge" or "capital" class ships. They could have one landing pad for a single ship and be the step between a large and a Fleet Carrier.

It could be designed with Ship interiors in mind, so they could be the happy balance for the players who want ship interiors without having to go back and retool the game engine and all the old ships for interiors as well. I think that would be super cool.

It's the only way I see them being able to keep adding ships without disrupting the tedious balance between all the ship sizes that are already in the game presently. Otherwise, if they keep adding new ships, eventually they get to a point where it'll be the same as another ship but just look different.. Like all the same stats as a Krait Mk2 for example but from another manufacturer that looks different.

That would be "balanced" but kind of boring.

[Chaka (FR)]

I'd like ships that can carry many players, to be able to transport people to make wars with other players on feet.

[EverySingleTime]

Originally posted by Valarynn:

They could have one landing pad for a single ship and be the step between a large and a Fleet Carrier. It could be designed with Ship interiors in mind.

If they ever live up to their promise of ship interiors, they'll start with a popular Small, maaaaybe Medium, to curb the development time.

Originally posted by Valarynn:

It's the only way I see them being able to keep adding ships without disrupting the tedious balance between all the ship sizes that are already in the game presently. Otherwise...

That ship has already sailed.

Originally posted by Chaka (FR):

I'd like ships that can carry many players, to be able to transport people to make wars with other players on feet.

You can't hitch rides on FCs or in MC? Not being a jerk, haven't touched spaceFPSlegs.

[Erei]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Originally posted by Valarynn:

They could have one landing pad for a single ship and be the step between a large and a Fleet Carrier. It could be designed with Ship interiors in mind.

If they ever live up to their promise of ship interiors, they'll start with a popular Small, maaaaybe Medium, to curb the development time.

Anaconda already has "interior" (IE space designed, at least partially). Anaconda is their "test ship" for stuff they want to implement. It also features battle damage models. Another thing that was planned but never completed.
You can see part of the interior by looking through the window, you can see the corridors are made. Meanwhile others ships have windows you can't see through. Besides the cockpit obviously.


The issue never was the difficulty to model it. But always in the way ED do instancing.

[EverySingleTime]

Originally posted by Erei:

Anaconda already has...

Brought to us by the early gen ED devs who also made ED a VR titan. My how that was flushed! Those are assets from an era long gone. They mean nothing, tears in the rain.

[[FAC]Gibbleguts]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Now that Fdev is bringing new shios, what could convince you to open your wallet? Easy for me. Small ship that is at least comparable to the Courier in agility/speed, nice cockpit, 5 or 6 small hardpoints.

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