Horizons & Recent updates Q

[EverySingleTime]

Are all the recent changes limited to Odyssey? I'm main interested in the increased module storage, mat changes, ship kits w/lights, and perhaps new ships. I bounced not long after Odyssey dropped with 3k hours across two accounts and am looking to return, but really don't want Odyssey.

[Un1k0rn]

Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey are, in fact, the same game. You simply can't access Odyssey-specific features via Horizons 4.0. And that, really, is limited to atmosphere worlds and getting out on foot. Everything else is the same on both clients.

Module storage isn't Odyssey specific so yes, you get the increase.

No,w if you are talking about legacy Horizons, then I'm afraid not as that no longer receives any kind of update, including this storage increase.

[EverySingleTime]

Thanks. Didn't know about Horizons 4.0. Does it use Odyssey planet gen and graphics?

[Un1k0rn]

It does yes. That's why legacy was split off, to make way for that change.

[EverySingleTime]

Oof. Looks like I'll be sticking with my army of module storage ships. Thanks.

[Un1k0rn]

Ah okay, running Legacy. Yeah unfortunately that one, as I say, is never getting any meaningful update again.

Happy to help.

[UNBREAKABLE]

Legacy is no longer supported nor has any of the new content added in the last year or so, Odyssey or not.

[EverySingleTime]

Increased module storage is tempting, but I'm not switching to the dumpster fire planets and axing fps for it. Ah well.

[Planewalker]

While the planetary mesh tiling still needs work in some cases, it is far from a dumpster fire.
-they did a ton of work and are in the process of adding more colour to planets like they did during the streamlining phase in Horizons back in 3.5.

The fps requirements have been lowered by a margin, i can't tell you if it's enough in your case however.

[UNBREAKABLE]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Increased module storage is tempting, but I'm not switching to the dumpster fire planets and axing fps for it. Ah well.

Hasn't been that way for quite a long time now since the patches. Most of the player base is on 4.0 and Odyssey.

Legacy also means you're missing out on the new ships, the engineering re-work, new FSD's, new power play, thargoid war, and the upcoming system colonization feature.

Unless you like flying inside deep cliffs for hours or your PC is just older, I don't think legacy is worth it tbh. It's just an outdated version of the game where your progress can't transfer.

[EverySingleTime]

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Increased module storage is tempting, but I'm not switching to the dumpster fire planets and axing fps for it. Ah well.

Legacy also means you're missing out on the new ships, the engineering re-work, new FSD's, new power play, thargoid war, and the upcoming system colonization feature.

Unless you like flying inside deep cliffs for hours or your PC is just older, I don't think legacy is worth it tbh.

I wouldn't lose sleep missing those features. The T8 looks cool but I don't see myself using it anyhow. I may put my combat account on 4.0 for the module storage and engineering, but defs not my explorer account. Zero interest in finding EDO worlds.

[UNBREAKABLE]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

Legacy also means you're missing out on the new ships, the engineering re-work, new FSD's, new power play, thargoid war, and the upcoming system colonization feature.

Unless you like flying inside deep cliffs for hours or your PC is just older, I don't think legacy is worth it tbh.

I wouldn't lose sleep missing those features. The T8 looks cool but I don't see myself using it anyhow. I may put my combat account on 4.0 for the module storage and engineering, but defs not my explorer account. Zero interest in finding EDO worlds.

For explorers the Mandalay is now the best ship ;), the SCO is also amazing and lets you cruise at 4,000c with no heat issues or wobble.

Of course staying on legacy is an option, but remember that none of your progress will transfer into live.

[Sighman]

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Zero interest in finding EDO worlds.

Yep, whenever I land on an EDO world I find myself wishing it was more beige, just like good old Legacy.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052432278

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3312465881

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3157301360

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3073412150

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052428259

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038979737

[Jeebs]

Originally posted by Sighman:

Originally posted by EverySingleTime:

Zero interest in finding EDO worlds.

Yep, whenever I land on an EDO world I find myself wishing it was more beige, just like good old Legacy.

Whenever I land on an EDO world, I find myself wishing that the terrain was composed almost entirely of massive cliffs and trenches that you have to drive around for hours to find a way to traverse, just like good old Legacy.

Awesome screenshots, btw.

Also, I was under the impression that a lot of the new features are Odyssey exclusive and that Horizons Live isn't getting all of them?

Either way, for anyone else reading along the thread: from the moment Odyssey launched, I have not been able to get myself to play without it. I've tried going back to Legacy a couple of times for different reasons and I just can't do it. It feels like half the game is missing, for one, and the new planet generation tech trumps the old one in every possible way.

[Un1k0rn]

Originally posted by Jeebs:

Originally posted by Sighman:

Yep, whenever I land on an EDO world I find myself wishing it was more beige, just like good old Legacy.

Whenever I land on an EDO world, I find myself wishing that the terrain was composed almost entirely of massive cliffs and trenches that you have to drive around for hours to find a way to traverse, just like good old Legacy.

Awesome screenshots, btw.

Also, I was under the impression that a lot of the new features are Odyssey exclusive and that Horizons Live isn't getting all of them?

Either way, for anyone else reading along the thread: from the moment Odyssey launched, I have not been able to get myself to play without it. I've tried going back to Legacy a couple of times for different reasons and I just can't do it. It feels like half the game is missing, for one, and the new planet generation tech trumps the old one in every possible way.

TBF people looking for canyons and such to fly through do have a point.

It was a serious loss to racing events. Even more so now with the news ships that outright do not exist in Legacy.

However, given Frontier has never so much as commented on adding any kind of built-in support for racing, rendering the activity reliant on a degree of trust in other players (there goes my interest), it's pretty clear that it's not a considered factor.

Given that activities on planets has never been marketed to suggest racing, I think that's fair, epecially as everything else has improved greatly thanks to the new planet generation.

I've likely spent several orders of magnitudes worth of time on planets since Odyssey releases on planets, then I ever did prior.

[Jeebs]

Originally posted by Un1k0rn:

TBF people looking for canyons and such to fly through do have a point.

It was a serious loss to racing events. Even more so now with the news ships that outright do not exist in Legacy.

However, given Frontier has never so much as commented on adding any kind of built-in support for racing, rendering the activity reliant on a degree of trust in other players (there goes my interest), it's pretty clear that it's not a considered factor.

You're thinking about hooning, I'm pretty sure. That's where people go flying around at break-neck speeds and yes, the old planet generation tech with its jagged (and obviously noise-generated) peaks and deep trenches were better for that. I did spend a few months after Odyssey released trying to help the hooners find some planets they could fly on.

There's still plenty of canyons and such that would be great for racing, though. I've even seen one world that had several criss-crossing trenches that would be great for racing, since you can reconfigure the track when needed.

I don't know about Frontier not wanting to help with racing, as I haven't been involved with that scene. I'd like to think that if there was enough interest, they'd do something. You'd think they'd consider it at least, given that both the Mamba and FDL are supposed to be built on racing-ship frames.

Originally posted by Un1k0rn:

Given that activities on planets has never been marketed to suggest racing, I think that's fair, epecially as everything else has improved greatly thanks to the new planet generation.

I've likely spent several orders of magnitudes worth of time on planets since Odyssey releases on planets, then I ever did prior.

Same. In Horizons, after the novelty of being able to drive on the surface of worlds wore off, the only reason I ever went driving on planets was when I needed engineering mats. Otherwise I skipped it. Since Odyssey came out though, sometimes I'll go for a drive just to take in the sights.