Anti Aliasing still broken?

[Roland]

Is the Anti Aliasing still hot garbage?
I haven't played in like 3 years because I keep waiting for the AA to get fixed. I haven't paid attention to the updates in awhile and I see I have a big one pending; should I care or should I continue to wait?

Edit:
For those that wanna say "just upgrade your computer and use Super Sampling" the Recommended for Odyssey is a mere GTX 1060 and yet a RTX 2060 Super, which has more power than a RTX 3060, can't hold 60fps with any kind of Super Sampling on.

The devs need to update FSR from 1.0, to at least 3.0, which should have been done years ago, for most cards in use today to hope to not have any aliasing issues.

Post-Ascendancy Update:
I just did another test with 1440p being downscaled to 1080p using DSR, no upscalers, and using MLAAx4 and it still looks like absolute trash. Screenshot included:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369690301

Post Ascendancy Update 2:
Just made a new video demonstrating how bad it is and I show my settings as well.
https://youtu.be/jFMHoeZy564

[Vitowns]

It was never broken :)

[/me]

It still isn't really good. However if you mix it wit 1.x supersampling you'll get what you're looking for.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by /me:

It still isn't really good. However if you mix it wit 1.x supersampling you'll get what you're looking for.

SuperSampling over 1.0 is a rich man's AntiAliasing. :)

[Roland]

Originally posted by vitowns:

It was never broken :)

Go look at old videos of Horizon and then compare it to Odyssey.
It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful compared to what it used to be; they literally broke it with the Odyssey expansion.

Originally posted by /me:

It still isn't really good. However if you mix it wit 1.x supersampling you'll get what you're looking for.

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Originally posted by /me:

It still isn't really good. However if you mix it wit 1.x supersampling you'll get what you're looking for.

SuperSampling over 1.0 is a rich man's AntiAliasing. :)

I only have a RTX 2060 Super.
There is no combination of Supersampling and other settings that allows a stable 60fps. I've tested it exhaustively.

Thanks for the replies; I shall continue to not play.

[GeorgeKaplan]

I have an old Alienware 1070gtx and Ody is stable at 60fps everywhere. There is good and bad with Odyssey graphics. It's not all bad. Picking this time to leave looks like a strange decision when FDev are actually caring about the game again.

[Roland]

Originally posted by GeorgeKaplan:

I have an old Alienware 1070gtx and Ody is stable at 60fps everywhere. There is good and bad with Odyssey graphics. It's not all bad. Picking this time to leave looks like a strange decision when FDev are actually caring about the game again.

I "left" 3 years ago.
And the aliasing is terrible pretty much everywhere. I even made a video about it where people confirmed in the comments that it wasn't just me and it's been broken since Odyssey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqt1HMedgkM

This thread exists to hopefully draw their attention to it since they allegedly care about the game again. Like I said in my last reply, it wasn't this bad in Horizons.
At the very least they could update FSR and that might be a better solution than the current mess.

[martin77]

seriously you video looks awful.
What a resolution you use?
use 4k resolution,
use upscaling ONLY the game internal thing all other is worse.
and supersampling to 1 or 1.25.
All other graphic options to the highest possible.

[FireEqual]

Originally posted by Roland:

And the aliasing is terrible pretty much everywhere. I even made a video about it where people confirmed in the comments that it wasn't just me and it's been broken since Odyssey.

Why link a video that shows an issue you've already solved? You've confirmed it was FSR's fault, so just don't use it. If your issue exists without FSR - maybe show that instead?

In any case, your only options are:

• Follow the advice others gave you
  
• If the first option leads to low fps - maybe next time don't buy an obviously overpriced gpu and get a better one instead?
  
• Follow this ReShade solution[forums.frontier.co.uk]
  
• Get used to pretty minor aliasing issues
  
• Give up

[Planewalker]

Hello 360pixels my old friend. xD

[Roland]

Originally posted by martin77:

seriously you video looks awful.
What a resolution you use?
use 4k resolution,
use upscaling ONLY the game internal thing all other is worse.
and supersampling to 1 or 1.25.
All other graphic options to the highest possible.

Me: *Says he has a 2060 Super*
You: "Just use 4k bro"
Me:

You clearly don't know wtf you're talking about if you think a 2060 super can handle 4k. This game is so terribly optimized for downscaling that you can't even downscale 1440p to 1080p and get 60fps; I know this because I've tried.

Originally posted by FireEqual:

Originally posted by Roland:

And the aliasing is terrible pretty much everywhere. I even made a video about it where people confirmed in the comments that it wasn't just me and it's been broken since Odyssey.

Why link a video that shows an issue you've already solved? You've confirmed it was FSR's fault, so just don't use it. If your issue exists without FSR - maybe show that instead?

In any case, your only options are:

• Follow the advice others gave you
  
• If the first option leads to low fps - maybe next time don't buy an obviously overpriced gpu and get a better one instead?
  
• Follow this ReShade solution[forums.frontier.co.uk]
  
• Get used to pretty minor aliasing issues
  
• Give up

Because why tf would I record an entire new video when I say in the description that disabling FSR didn't entirely fix it it only made it better.

And Reshade is a bandaid that let's the devs continue to half ass their support. Like for the love of god they are still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ using FSR 1.0!

Also I only paid $130 for this GPU so.... Which btw is 1/8th of my total monthly income because I have a physical disability that prevents me from improving my income, but please tell me more about what I should and shouldn't do with my money... LOL

Half these replies either don't know what they are talking about at all, or don't care that the devs have been ignoring this issue for years. (again, they still have FSR 1.0, while every other game that would do that has the fans begging them to upgrade FSR to at least 3)

And to all of these replies telling me what to do, I never asked for your advice, all I asked is if AA was still broken. Your advice is not useful because I've already tested every combination of settings on an RX570 4GB, a 1660 Super, and a 2060 Super. I've literally put dozens of hours into testing ♥♥♥♥, and every time I ultimately just close the game and continue to wait.

And mind you I put hundreds of hours into Horizons on an RX570 4GB and NEVER had aliasing issues. So all you're doing is making excuses for the devs to not fix what they broke with Odyssey.

Edit:
Also telling someone to buy a new card when the game's recommended is a GTX 770, and they have a RTX 2060 Super shows you have no clue what you're doing either. My card is literally almost twice as powerful as a 770, but sure I should buy a stronger card
(https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-Nvidia-GTX-770/4049vs2174)
I'm just gonna block ya because not only are you telling people how to spend their money but you want to belittle when you don't even know what you are doing. I genuinely never wish to interact with people like you as you are not helpful to anyone.

[BloodravenD]

I started in either the closed or open beta, and I've always had AA issues, usually the crawling/shimmering on edges, and I agree something should've been done long ago. I also live on a fixed income, so I know what it's like to not be able to have the luxury of upgrading hardware whenever I want. That being said, that ReShade soulution does a decent improvement over what's in game, and you should be able to supersample to 1.25 or 1.5 without a huge loss of fps with your hardware, I've only tried it in a spacestation/in space with a i7-4771 and a gtx1060, depending on your CPU that as. It's not ideal, you shouldn't have to have lower fps than what is typically considered standard for a proper AA, but that is unfortunately how Fdev is handling things.

[FireEqual]

Originally posted by Roland:

Also telling someone to buy a new card when the game's recommended is a GTX 770, and they have a RTX 2060 Super shows you have no clue what you're doing either.

We're talking about Odyssey though?
Horizons uses the same engine now anyway, so FDev should update the recommended setup, but for Odyssey the recommended GPU is 1060.

I don't know why this is such a touchy subject for you.
I never told you to buy a new card, I suggested getting a better price/performance next time if both aliasing and FPS are a huge issue for you.
Average wage in my country is ~half yours and the prices on GPUs are ~20% higher due to import tariffs. I used to have a 1070 for ~8 years before I've managed to upgrade it, I didn't have any FPS or aliasing problems, despite my GPU being slightly less powerful than a 2060 Super.

Players gave you advice, because they want you to enjoy the game at least in one way or another. Getting aggressive about it doesn't help you or others, and it certainly won't have any impact on FDev implementing FSR or DLSS.

[Roland]

I like how the clown awards have started rolling in even though we have people from as far back as the beta saying Aliasing is a problem.
People are just letting the devs not update their graphics, but I'M the one that deserves the clown awards.

By all means, continue to give me points for having standards

[ArthurDent]

Originally posted by vitowns:

It was never broken :)

Yes it was and still is. I played this game since the very first release, way back, when they still decided what the galaxy would look like and, no matter what option, internal or external, there's horrible aliasing in this game.

[Scowl At The Moon]

Yeah, use super sampling, or play in a higher resolution. Job done.