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Krait Mk2 is absolutely OP.
Does it have any down sides?
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Gropax 17 MAY 2021 a las 22:05 
Vette is the King of the HAZ RES the only problem is its slow as ♥♥♥♥ and turns like every other large ship like ♥♥♥♥. i have a Vette and the only problem i have is i have no use for it. i find when i fly it i lose all of my dog fighting skills because it just can't turn with smaller ships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VflbALuYeMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl9Sg600Jww
Última edición por Gropax; 17 MAY 2021 a las 22:06
Heimdall313 (Bloqueado) 17 MAY 2021 a las 22:52 
My Krait isn't upside down, your ship is upside down.

Krait II, its multipurpose, which mean main competition is, imo , Python. Python is better at mining and medium cargo hauling, simply due to the extra class 6 optional. Krait is, however, faster, cheaper, more agile, and significantly better at combat because of the agility and SLF. Python has much better shielding and armor tho.

For combat, Krait has bad armor, bad shields, but is fast as hell and agility is comparable to a Challenger or FDL; bit lower than both of course, and Chieftain is still king of medium agility. DPS is incredible, and its the best pirate ship in the game. Not that pirating is all that good anymore with LTDs "nerfed" to far more reasonable levels.
Big thing is, its very combat competent, but FDL for example is obnoxious for any other use with terrible jump range / no fuel / etc, Chieftain can have a small bit of cargo for collectors and less awful jump range, 16t fuel, but the Krait II is extremely comfy for bounty hunting / material fetching / etc with 32t fuel, great jump range for a combat ship, and is second only to Python for mining/hauling/etc. with enough distinction to actually use it even if not ideal.

Lakon-style open canopy is a big plus for me, since everything else I fly is Lakon (Chieftain, AspX, Type 9, type 10).

My question in general is however: Coriolis and ED Wiki have two totally different stats for Krait II: Wiki is 262 MJ shield, Coriolis is 220 MJ. Chieftain on Wiki is 162 MJ, Coriolis is 200 MJ.
Which of these, if either, is correct?
Última edición por Heimdall313; 17 MAY 2021 a las 23:10
Dee 18 MAY 2021 a las 0:14 
i think there's some sort of placebo going on among commanders claiming the krait mk2 handles better / is more agile than the python. maybe it's the cockpit, i don't know.

they're exactly the same methinks, the krait mk2 drifts a little more but that's about it. and since i don't much care for slf, python suits* me better.

*that was of course before i pimped my clipper :)
Erei 18 MAY 2021 a las 5:02 
Publicado originalmente por Gropax:
Vette is the King of the HAZ RES the only problem is its slow as ♥♥♥♥ and turns like every other large ship like ♥♥♥♥. i have a Vette and the only problem i have is i have no use for it. i find when i fly it i lose all of my dog fighting skills because it just can't turn with smaller ships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VflbALuYeMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl9Sg600Jww
Put dirty+drag drives on the engines. It will turn rather fast now.
Sighman 18 MAY 2021 a las 5:11 
I find the corvette turns like a sidewinder when compared to the type 10 or the cutter. No complaints from me.

I usually fit 2-3 turrets to deal with any smaller, nimble ships. And I carry an SLF.
Última edición por Sighman; 18 MAY 2021 a las 5:12
ArtemisHunt (Bloqueado) 18 MAY 2021 a las 6:51 
Publicado originalmente por Khloros:
Krait Mk2 is the best thargoid hunter but not OP.

No it isn't. Due to the hardpoint limitation it cannot really run flak unless you want to gimp yourself on the main advantage of running the Krait in that you get 4 rails. The chieftain is the best thargoid hunter (poke around in AXI for a bit)

The Krait is reliable and for me is a nice change of pace for when FDL PA/Rails gets boring. It's certainly not OP. The FDL has 70 armor (same as cutter/corvette) despite being M pad and the Krait has a 55 iirc (See my videos / spreadsheets on engineering). So if your shields (people have already mentioned shield mods earlier) go down you’re going to have a bad time because you're already taking damage at a pretty mean rate for your pad class.
Última edición por ArtemisHunt; 18 MAY 2021 a las 6:51
Sasquatch 18 MAY 2021 a las 7:29 
Publicado originalmente por Dee:
*that was of course before i pimped my clipper :)
And there's the truly OP ship in the game... that hardly anybody acknowledges. I've barely started engineering mine and it's already a phenomenal hauler. I run no weapons and only a 3A shield. Evades every interdiction even fully loaded with 216t of palladium on board.
Publicado originalmente por put dispenser here:
Does it have any down sides?
yes, being extreamly overrated
the only good thing about kraits(especially phantom) is their jump range, thats all
Erei 18 MAY 2021 a las 8:46 
Publicado originalmente por ArtemisHunt:
No it isn't. Due to the hardpoint limitation it cannot really run flak unless you want to gimp yourself on the main advantage of running the Krait in that you get 4 rails. The chieftain is the best thargoid hunter (poke around in AXI for a bit)
Krait is still perfectly fine in killing at least cyclops (4rail 1flak). Sure, chieftain have others advantages that are more interesting for bigger targets I assume, but krait is fine early on.
Publicado originalmente por ^0.SAS.^4HunterCat:
Publicado originalmente por put dispenser here:
Does it have any down sides?
yes, being extreamly overrated
the only good thing about kraits(especially phantom) is their jump range, thats all
Of all the medium ship, Krait MK 2 have one of the best hardpoints (alongside the FDL, people debate on which is better, so let's say they are both the best). An amazing convergence, lots of internal with no restriction, decent mobility, top tier speed (mamba and FdL are the only combat ship beating it), and good shield. It also has access to class 6 thrusters and 7distributor, while most of its competitor are down one class.
Also, it's the one of the only medium to support a SLF (crusader being another, but it's very meh otherwise).

Overall, it's very well rounded combat platform. Chieftain will have more tank, but less firepower. FdL gets a huge hardpoint and mobility, but is less tanky. Same for mamba.
Última edición por Erei; 18 MAY 2021 a las 8:46
Publicado originalmente por Erei:
Of all the medium ship, Krait MK 2 have one of the best hardpoints (alongside the FDL, people debate on which is better, so let's say they are both the best).
i highly doubt that Krait should be ever compared to FDL or any other combat focused ship, it just doesnt make any sense comparing your basic sedan to a sportcar
FDL does best combat but Krait does anything else better and so does Python, exept well AX maybe(never been intrerested in it anyway)
Publicado originalmente por Erei:
An amazing convergence, lots of internal with no restriction, decent mobility, top tier speed (mamba and FdL are the only combat ship beating it), and good shield. It also has access to class 6 thrusters and 7distributor, while most of its competitor are down one class.
So the right comparison imo would be Krait MK2 vs Python:
Ships are same class and somewhat same role (being universal)
They have same hardpoints but different positions
They both has same class 6 thrusters and class 7 distributor
Krait is faster but Python is more agile even without engineers
Krait has better power plant numbers but cant tank as much damage as Python nor with sheild nor with armor
Krait has better jump range but cant carry as much or fit as many modules as Python
Anybody can see and test it himself https://coriolis.io

So everybody can deside what they want more from each ship but my opinion stands the same Krait IS overrated. Furher more every time i see someone recommending Krait i call it propoganda, but yes again its just my opinion and you can add it to the pile.



Última edición por ^0[.SAS.]^4HunterCat; 18 MAY 2021 a las 9:45
Erei 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:06 
Publicado originalmente por ^0.SAS.^4HunterCat:
i highly doubt that Krait should be ever compared to FDL or any other combat focused ship, it just doesnt make any sense comparing your basic sedan to a sportcar
FDL does best combat but Krait does anything else better and so does Python, exept well AX maybe(never been intrerested in it anyway)
PvP : FdL >krait
PvE : Krait > FdL.

That's not a competition.
Better power plant
Better distributor
More internal slot (a lot)
Better internal slot class
Better shield

Less base shield
Less speed
Less agility
Less base hull

Agility/speed is irrelevant fpr pve, as long as you can follow a target and disengage (which the krait can do no problem), since NPC use turrets anyway. base shield and hull is fairly irrelevant considering you have almost twitce the number of internal for modules.

As for hardpoint :
Krait : 3L 2M
FdL : 1H 4M

Raw DPS is very close with a slight advantage to FdL, but with the variation in penetration, in reality it may differ.
But Krait can have a SLF (FdL can't) for extra dps, giving the Krait the damage advantage no problem.


You get a slightly unmodded advantage in tank, agility and speed, and lose everywhere else.



Krait Mk2 is a combat focused ship, and is the best M class for PvE content. FdL is best for pvp. Python for transport/mining. Phantom for range. Chieftain for AX.
Princess Pilfer 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:07 
The Krait is fine early on? It's like 3x the cost. The much cheaper chieftian is better at fighting thargoids (debatably better at combat in general) *and* costs less.

The Krait is multipurpose. It's good at most things. It's the best at nothing, the specialists will be cheaper and more effective but you'll have to have like 6 of them if yo uwant to do everything, with the Krait switching tasks is as simple as switching loadouts.

The 1 place it might actually be the best for it's size is Piracy, because of the large number of unrestricted internals and high speed. So it can carry more cargo, keep them from outrunning you, has enough firepower to snipe the drives quickly, and is durable enough for the return fire from a freighter to not be too much of a threat unless you make mistakes. The other ships in the size range that could match it or beat it in any one of those things tend to suffer greately in something else. (IE the chieftan has comparable firepower and speed and superior agility, but it's got like 1/2 the cargo space. The Python has somewhat better cargo space, but is more likely to be outrun and will likely be torn to pieces if they have friends in more agile ships and/or system authority shows up in more agile ships and/or they have a fighter bay)
Erei 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:08 
Publicado originalmente por Princess Pilfer:
The Krait is fine early on? It's like 3x the cost. The much cheaper chieftian is better at fighting thargoids (debatably better at combat in general) *and* costs less.
It's easier to learn in krait than going straight for cold orbiting (on top of learning how AX works). I do cyclops all the time in krait, I have no issue. I don't know how to cold orbit and never learned.
The AXI consider krait as a good AX learner.
Última edición por Erei; 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:08
AJ24 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:23 
Publicado originalmente por ^0.SAS.^4HunterCat:
Python is more agile even without engineers
What?!? Having flown both in various states of engineering I can categorically say this is just not true

Also, if you're going to compare the two, you kinda have to mention the fighter bay or it just looks like...err...propaganda

Python is better multipurpose, with more space and more tankiness, but it's clunky in comparison to the Krait and just not as good in combat

Having said that, if you want a combat ship it's still better to go for an *actual* combat ship, even if it's not much good for anything else
Última edición por AJ24; 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:24
^0[.SAS.]^4HunterCat 18 MAY 2021 a las 10:43 
Publicado originalmente por Erei:
Agility/speed is irrelevant fpr pve, as long as you can follow a target and disengage (which the krait can do no problem), since NPC use turrets anyway.
Thats a lie, and its not about evading the damage its about to landing a hit
Publicado originalmente por Erei:
Krait Mk2 is a combat focused ship
it is not
Publicado originalmente por Erei:
PvP : FdL >krait
PvE : Krait > FdL.
id rather take Mamba\FAS for PvE than Krait, if no ship size limitations booy o boy then its Vulture or Vette
Publicado originalmente por Erei:
base shield and hull is fairly irrelevant considering you have almost twitce the number of internal for modules.
Have you ever played conflict zones?
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