Useless because of the control setup

[ProudTiger]

I used to play this with a full CH Hotas setup but now CH Manager is broken and all the profiles have been taken down,I have never played it fully since.

Now I own a Winwing Ursa Minor and CH Proi Throttle but don't have a clue how to set it up.

So the game has gathered dust.

[Niall]

The WinWing get SimAppPro and update the firmware. Make sure your WinWing is connected to your motherboard or a USB hub with its own power supply. Then you can configure it in Elite's control settings, very easy. I know because I did it yesterday with Ursa Minor (got a great deal on it).

I would imagine you can use the throttle from CH. I'm using a 10 year old X52 throttle with my Ursa Minor. I think I won the Saitek lottery with this one.

Go into the control settings and mess around it is not hard to figure out. The WinWing will work for sure. I cannot help you with the CH I have never used one.

[Niall]

Here is a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxb0p029_Y

[Mu77ley]

Originally posted by ProudTiger:

I used to play this with a full CH Hotas setup but now CH Manager is broken and all the profiles have been taken down,I have never played it fully since.

Now I own a Winwing Ursa Minor and CH Proi Throttle but don't have a clue how to set it up.

So the game has gathered dust.

Why's CH Manager not working? Works just fine here.

[ProudTiger]

Originally posted by Mu77ley:

Originally posted by ProudTiger:

I used to play this with a full CH Hotas setup but now CH Manager is broken and all the profiles have been taken down,I have never played it fully since.

Now I own a Winwing Ursa Minor and CH Proi Throttle but don't have a clue how to set it up.

So the game has gathered dust.

Why's CH Manager not working? Works just fine here.

Only in calibration mode.
And CH Hangar has closed.
Works great for calibration but does not work when downloading a made profile,the mapping modes are greyed out.

[ProudTiger]

Originally posted by Niall:

Here is a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxb0p029_Y

TY but how am I supposed to follow that with the game open?

These games are impossible to setup just to play sigh.

[ProudTiger]

The throttle axis I don't understand.
I used to just load in a profile and also print the profile map so I could see everything but I can't using two different branded sticks.
I used the analog thumb axis on the throttle to land.
The main throttle ,how do I set it to go backwards?
I will give it a miss.
Too much fugging around.

X4 Foundations is just as bad setting up controls.

These types of games need a decicated software to setup controls otherwise alot of people never play these games.

[Sighman]

Originally posted by ProudTiger:

The throttle axis I don't understand.
I used to just load in a profile and also print the profile map so I could see everything but I can't using two different branded sticks.
I used the analog thumb axis on the throttle to land.
The main throttle ,how do I set it to go backwards?
I will give it a miss.
Too much fugging around.

X4 Foundations is just as bad setting up controls.

It's not 'bad', they're both complicated games with lots of controls. Space invaders just has left, right and fire, but that's because it's all you need.

As for the main throttle and backwards, you want to set full range under throttle.

If you ask, people will help.

[Weaver]

I have done a complete rebind of not only the in-game binds, but also my Thrustmaster and now my VKB sim rigs, so many times that I know the controls by memory at this point. It's shocking how many users want to just get handed a file instead of setting their own binds.

Try starting with basic flight controls and go from there. I did.

Changing some definitions these days: Impossible = Requires Effort

[1Nf@MOu$( Mr.Thorp )]

you alt tab between the two.. or you just learn what things are and re set them. shouldnt take much longer than 20 minutes to re do all your settings. then save them.

[magnumaniac]

Yeah, just map the controls yourself, and get them setup how you like them. I like to have consistency between games, so try to always map targeting functions to the same HAT, for example.
It requires a bit of effort to start with for each game - but if you're prepared to invest hundreds of dollars / euros / pounds into your control system of choice, then you should definitely be prepared to invest a couple of hours into setting it up.


After setting up for each game, make sure you get a backup of the settings (wherever that game stores them). Nothing worse than finding an update has reset everything to defaults.

[Lupinus Rictus]

Use joystick gremlin, it works with all ch products, as well as all the other major brands

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by ProudTiger:

Originally posted by Niall:

Here is a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxb0p029_Y

TY but how am I supposed to follow that with the game open?

These games are impossible to setup just to play sigh.

Extra screen or even another device?

Steam overlay?

Alt+tab?

Focus on the basics first: Ship movement and rotation. Get the axis set up, test them (you might need to invert or un-invert some).

The main throttle ,how do I set it to go backwards?

Either set a key to switch your throttle to reverse (look for the little "+" icon near the throttle binding). Or use "full range" (centre point is neutral).

I used to just load in a profile and also print the profile map so I could see everything but I can't using two different branded sticks.

You can: https://www.edrefcard.info/

[ProudTiger]

Ran out of buttons.
Do we need 4 joysticks lol?

My old Control manager profile was awesome .
I could use track ir to look at all the panels then scroll up and down on the panel interfaces.
No clue how to do this.
And I have no clue how I am going to remember 30 functions.
This is ridiculous.
I don't have the memory of the Six Million Dollar Man FFS.

This game needs a joystick with 50 buttons on it.
I don't think they have made one yet.I miss the old ED and my old CH Manager profile sigh,it worked perfectly.

I have installed Joystick Gremlin before but that program is a mess,programs within programs.


CH Manager,when it worked was incredible and intuitive.
And there was a Dummies guide.
I forgot to save all that stuff of course (shakes head).

When CH Products website went down,my playtime with ED ended as well because when ED was updated and the controls became unusable.


P.S. I have already forgotten all the hotas commands already.

P.P.S. Really don't have any time to try to work this crap out.

The controls on these games are silly.

[ProudTiger]

Originally posted by Niall:

Here is a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxb0p029_Y

Ran out of buttons on both my CH Pro THrottle and Ursa Minor Fighterstick using this guide.

People must use big button boxes with 30 buttons to play this?

[Weaver]

I was triple-mapped on my Thrustmaster flight pack (T16000M, TWCS, rudder pedals) and still had in-game binds that were not mapped to a physical control.

Now that I've moved up to VKB, I have all the controls I need.

Look into shift keys, control layers, etc, etc. That is, of course, unless the gear in use doesn't have its own configuration software, in which case what you see is what you get.