Andromeda galaxy...no carriers allowed.

[a sentient mcnugget]

Only for explorers.

[funkynutz]

Find Raxxla. One of the rumours about it suggests it's a gateway to other galaxies...

[Jeebs]

Dude, we already have a galaxy so big that no one will ever explore it all in our lifetime...

[Sam Willet]

4 trillion galaxies in the universe, and we all had to play in this one.

[a sentient mcnugget]

Originally posted by Jeebs:

Dude, we already have a galaxy so big that no one will ever explore it all in our lifetime...

Could so-called elite explorers make it to the far end of the Andromeda galaxy and come back to the Milky Way in one piece?

[Sam Willet]

Originally posted by put dispenser here:

Originally posted by Jeebs:

Dude, we already have a galaxy so big that no one will ever explore it all in our lifetime...

Could so-called elite explorers make it to the far end of the Andromeda galaxy and come back to the Milky Way in one piece?

Distance to beagle point, about 65,000 ly?

Distance to Andromeda Galaxy: 2,500,000 ly

I feel that fuel scooping is going to be an issue, aside from the 28,000 jumps required in a specced-out Mandalay.

[Jeebs]

Originally posted by put dispenser here:

Could so-called elite explorers make it to the far end of the Andromeda galaxy and come back to the Milky Way in one piece?

Not a chance. You need to jump to a gravity well like a star. Even with a neutron star or FSD boost, you're never going to even come close to crossing the gap between galaxies. Your carrier couldn't do it either, not even close.

[a sentient mcnugget]

Originally posted by Sam Willet:

Originally posted by put dispenser here:

Could so-called elite explorers make it to the far end of the Andromeda galaxy and come back to the Milky Way in one piece?

Distance to beagle point, about 65,000 ly?

Distance to Andromeda Galaxy: 2,500,000 ly

I feel that fuel scooping is going to be an issue, aside from the 28,000 jumps required in a specced-out Mandalay.

Wormhole technology has allowed humanity to travel and build a space station in the outer reaches of the Andromeda galaxy. Due to the prohibitive cost of transferring resources through the wormhole (1 million credit per TON) only one station has been built.

Unfortunately, wormhole technology does not allow yet carriers to travel through the wormhole. It is up to explorers to map out, explore, and use their wit to travel to the far reaches of the Andromeda galaxy and come back in one piece.

[jimbalayajones]

Ship size Star Gate...Gotta be one somewhere...

[fullarmor2]

I'd like to see the Magellanic Clouds added. Those are not too far away. The story can be that the Thargoid home bubble was discovered over there. And we're going after it!

[Jeebs]

Originally posted by fullarmor2:

I'd like to see the Magellanic Clouds added. Those are not too far away. The story can be that the Thargoid home bubble was discovered over there. And we're going after it!

Those are actually within range of a neutron boosted jump. The stellar streams would be interesting too. You'd get some amazing views of the milky way from those, I'm sure.

That being said, the existing galaxy is already beyond huge and we'll never explore it all, so I don't think we really need any new additions. Even if they would be cool.

[The Dweller]

You´ll spend years getting there and get ganked by the local gankers anyway.

[Dwolite]

Why? We have only explored about 1% of the Milky Way Galaxy. Go out and wander slightly outside of the Bubble and you'll find plenty of un-discovered systems.

[a sentient mcnugget]

Originally posted by Dwolite:

Why? We have only explored about 1% of the Milky Way Galaxy. Go out and wander slightly outside of the Bubble and you'll find plenty of un-discovered systems.

Yeah but there are carriers within reach of almost every remote spot in the galaxy.

One could then say "we'll don't go on them then" but that's easier said than done when you are at 10% module health or hull strength. It's like having a McDonald's 2 miles away from the South Pole. It removes the challenge out of exploration. You don't even need an AFMU anymore because there are carriers on the way to your destination.

An untouched, pristine galaxy with no carriers around would make exploration hardcore again.

[Jeebs]

Originally posted by Dwolite:

Why? We have only explored about 1% of the Milky Way Galaxy. Go out and wander slightly outside of the Bubble and you'll find plenty of un-discovered systems.

It's even less than that. Less than a tenth of a percent. Last time I saw the numbers, I think it was 0.06% of the galaxy that was explored so far. I meant it when I said that we'd never explore it all in our lifetime. Likely not in the next generation's lifetime either, if the game lives that long.

Originally posted by put dispenser here:

Yeah but there are carriers within reach of almost every remote spot in the galaxy.

One could then say "we'll don't go on them then" but that's easier said than done when you are at 10% module health or hull strength. It's like having a McDonald's 2 miles away from the South Pole. It removes the challenge out of exploration. You don't even need an AFMU anymore because there are carriers on the way to your destination.

An untouched, pristine galaxy with no carriers around would make exploration hardcore again.

This seems like a "you" problem more so than anything, and I mean that in a respectful way. I go out into the black for months at a time and in close to 10 years of playing, I've never once visited a carrier or felt the need to.

By that logic, they should get rid of Colonia and the Colonia bridge too. Used to be, flying to Beagle Point was the ultimate test of an explorer's mettle. Now it's trivial. Even if they got rid of carriers, it would still be less of a challenge now than it used to be simply because there are places to stop along the way.

[a sentient mcnugget]

Originally posted by Jeebs:

Originally posted by Dwolite:

Why? We have only explored about 1% of the Milky Way Galaxy. Go out and wander slightly outside of the Bubble and you'll find plenty of un-discovered systems.

It's even less than that. Less than a tenth of a percent. Last time I saw the numbers, I think it was 0.06% of the galaxy that was explored so far. I meant it when I said that we'd never explore it all in our lifetime. Likely not in the next generation's lifetime either, if the game lives that long.

Originally posted by put dispenser here:

Yeah but there are carriers within reach of almost every remote spot in the galaxy.

One could then say "we'll don't go on them then" but that's easier said than done when you are at 10% module health or hull strength. It's like having a McDonald's 2 miles away from the South Pole. It removes the challenge out of exploration. You don't even need an AFMU anymore because there are carriers on the way to your destination.

An untouched, pristine galaxy with no carriers around would make exploration hardcore again.

This seems like a "you" problem more so than anything, and I mean that in a respectful way. I go out into the black for months at a time and in close to 10 years of playing, I've never once visited a carrier or felt the need to.

By that logic, they should get rid of Colonia and the Colonia bridge too. Used to be, flying to Beagle Point was the ultimate test of an explorer's mettle. Now it's trivial. Even if they got rid of carriers, it would still be less of a challenge now than it used to be simply because there are places to stop along the way.

Hi! (I love Colonia btw. It's my permanent home )

It's definitely a problem for me and I suspect it's also a problem for quite a few of those who enjoy the (or what I consider the) challenging bits of exploration. With colonization coming up (which I think is a great idea and something I intensely look forward to btw), I'm afraid it will make exploration even more trivial.

I kind of miss the days of carefully planning ahead, putting on multiple AFMUs, a repair limpet module...etc and not knowing for certain whether I would make it back in one piece. I miss that thrill.