About a Mining Type 10

[Lukas+]

I know that Type 10s have already been assembled for mining and cargo transport, and I myself found videos on the internet.
However, it is about chasing around 600000000 credits for a well done one. Certainly, at that point, a pilot who loves combat like I love it, should not have other troubles, at least in Solo Mode, but I still wanted to know what do you think about.
I have 750 million, 1300 hours, 9 or 10 ships including a Phantom, a Dropship, an Asp Explorer, a Keelback and other small vessels.
I like combat, but I also follow the other Rankings.
I'm moving up the federation ranks to buy a Corvette, I'm Ensign now.
I'm Federal Agent for Zackary Hudson, but I'm not entirely unsympathetic or unfamiliar with the Empire and the Alliance.
I haven't started fighting the targoids yet, but that's in my intentions.
I've unlocked all the "nearby" engineers (not Palin and a few others), and almost all of them are level 5.
I discovered with my Keelback that mining Tritium in some systems and in some circumstances can be very profitable.
I have recently discovered with my Keelback that mining Tritium in some systems and in some circumstances can be as profitable as it has ever been for me until now.
I mine in 4 ways: laser, abrasion, sub surface, asteroid explosion.

Do you think this would be a good idea or is it better to continue otherwise?

o7 Cmdr

[Merkenjian]

It kind of depends on you. The Type-10 handles like the brick it looks like, and as you don't mention having any other large ships, how slow it is might come as a shock. That said, it will work for either mining or hauling, though it's not ideal for either. I'd suggest not going all in at first, maybe buy the hull, decent engines and see how you like that first. At least that way if you're falling asleep waiting to turn around, and decide it's not for you, you haven't sunk 600 mil into it.

[Bishop-Six]

I love the Keelback, my little ugly worker donkey :)

[Nobody]

Originally posted by Bishop-Six:

I love the Keelback, my little ugly worker donkey :)

The Type 10 is basically a large landing pad Keelback with a LOT more hardpoints. Spiritual successor if you will.

[Holeypaladin]

A mining Type-10 has a lot of the same problems as a mining Type-9... mainly, the low speed and inability to turn without processing a request through India's bureaucracy.

The Python and the new Type-8 are generally favored for mining due to their ability to move with ease from asteroid to asteroid. Depending how long you want to spend in the rings, their cargo capacity is usually plenty.

[JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi]

It may be fun to try but is just too slow, and actual amount of internals including cargo is deceiving... better off with an Anaconda, or T9. Much better with a Cutter.
Imo best compromise was the Python, super nimble, park in medium.

[heimdallrhoff]

Originally posted by JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi:

It may be fun to try but is just too slow, and actual amount of internals including cargo is deceiving... better off with an Anaconda, or T9. Much better with a Cutter.

Factually incorrect.
A good Type 10 mining rig (laser mining platinum, that is) will net you a 320 ton cargo hold, a size 7A Power Distributor that can actually keep the lasers on, and a 7A universal limpet controller that can keep up with the amount of chunks generated by three medium + 2 small lasers all with a pretty good jump range and 64 tons of fuel, which is important when you don't have a carrier.

Anaconda has less cargo, especially if you equip a 7A universal limpet controller. Anaconda has half the fuel, which complicates getting to a market with a smaller payload if you don't have a carrier. You cannot get 320 tons of cargo, a 7A universal limpet controller, and a Size 4 FSD booster into an Anaconda. It is not possible. You're sacrificing cargo space for a better power distributor, which will actually cost you more up front and in the long run.

Type 9 has a weak power distributor (size 6 ) and can't keep the lasers on constantly, which reduces your tons per hour just waiting on recharge. You'll make way, way more money trucking than mining in a Type 9.
Python, Krait II, Cutter, Type 10 all have a Size 7 Distributor, that's important to notice among the actually used miners.

Imperial Cutter is a long grind if you don't have it unlocked already, and is much more expensive.

Type 10 is the best large laser miner the OP can buy without bankruptcy at 750 million. I have a LOT of laser mining experience.
Basically, Type 9 < Anaconda < Type 10 / Python < Corvette < Cutter is the worst to best mining ranking. In tons per hour, my Type 10 is barely, BARELY behind my Cutter, and beats everything else I've ever tried.

[Holeypaladin]

Originally posted by heimdallrhoff:

Type 9 has a weak power distributor (size 6 ) and can't keep the lasers on constantly, which reduces your tons per hour just waiting on recharge. You'll make way, way more money trucking than mining in a Type 9.
Python, Krait II, Cutter, Type 10 all have a Size 7 Distributor, that's important to notice among the actually used miners.

I thought the Type-8 might have trouble mining with its underpowered distributor, and your experience tells me that I'm correct. It's sad, though... it has enough hardpoints to mount tons of small mining lasers, but it simply doesn't have the distributor to power them.

[JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi]

I can get an Anaconda with over 300t cargo no issues, you don't want to waste a class 7 internal on universal limpet for a dedicated miner where you only need collector and prospector.

Anaconda has much better jump range, is a heck of a lot lighter.

But either way, can it work? yeah for sure, but is still too freaking slow, becomes too tedious to fill up whatever you cargo you setup to.

+1 on T9 as a freighter, you right, that's how I made most my money to afford the FC, thanks to the T9, and then the Cutter :-)

I have an FC, that probably influences me preferring to mine with medium ships, can't stand mining with large ships anymore.

[Bishop-Six]

Originally posted by JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi:

I can get an Anaconda with over 300t cargo no issues, you don't want to waste a class 7 internal on universal limpet for a dedicated miner where you only need collector and prospector.

Anaconda has much better jump range, is a heck of a lot lighter.

But either way, can it work? yeah for sure, but is still too freaking slow, becomes too tedious to fill up whatever you cargo you setup to.

+1 on T9 as a freighter, you right, that's how I made most my money to afford the FC, thanks to the T9, and then the Cutter :-)

I have an FC, that probably influences me preferring to mine with medium ships, can't stand mining with large ships anymore.

Same. Medium Ships are imo way more fun for mining.

[heimdallrhoff]

Originally posted by JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi:

I can get an Anaconda with over 300t cargo no issues, you don't want to waste a class 7 internal on universal limpet for a dedicated miner where you only need collector and prospector.

Anaconda has much better jump range, is a heck of a lot lighter.

But either way, can it work? yeah for sure, but is still too freaking slow, becomes too tedious to fill up whatever you cargo you setup to.

I have an FC, that probably influences me preferring to mine with medium ships, can't stand mining with large ships anymore.

You can get an Anaconda to have 300 tons (or a bit more) of cargo, but then you're low on how many collectors you can have active. Too few collector Limpets means you waste time waiting on 6-8 Limpets to grab dozens of fragments while you just idle.

The reason that 7A universal limpet controllers were a big improvement to mining is they let you have 8 collectors out in only one optional slot. A size 7A collector controller, by contrast, only runs 4 at a time. That one universal controller is worth two 5a and a single 3a controller, but doesn't eat three slots. Type 10, I can run 320 cargo and 12 or 13 collectors, and that's just not possible on an Anaconda.

As for jump range, an empty explorer Anaconda has better range than an empty Type 10 by a lot, buuut on a mining load out with ~300 tons of cargo filled up, the Anaconda's smaller FSD is more weight sensitive than the Type 10's, and that jump range gap closes almost entirely.

Both can function just fine as miners but the Type 10 does edge out the Anaconda on price and performance.

If you prefer Python to mine that's entirely fine too. I use a Krait II but I'm weird and I know a python is better. Type 9 is the torture miner; huge cargo plus a bad distributor plus reaaallllyyyy slllooooowww. I made the two hour mistake once haha

[1Nf@MOu$( Mr.Thorp )]

I mine in a type 9, its like driving a cruise ship. i should mention that I laser mine in my type 9. in no way shape of form would i want to try and core mine where I had to maneuver around the asteroid in a timely manner.