Where to go to try pvp?

[Hurricane1045]

So I wanna get really good at pvp, and the only way to do that is practice right? Welp where do I go to start? Also I would take any ship build advice

[ListenFat]

Isn't playing in "Open" pvp anywhere?
I don't know, Im in the middle of the US so my average latency is around 500+.

Ive watched youtube, there seems to be players going for resource extraction sites of planetary rings or they farm Guardian sites, Jameson etc; anywhere others are trying to extract mats.

I believe the Fer-de-Lance is at the top ship wise, but there are many other ship/builds all over youtube to take ideas from.

[Aegix Drakan]

Originally posted by ListenFat:

I believe the Fer-de-Lance is at the top ship wise, but there are many other ship/builds all over youtube to take ideas from.

Really? The Python's not marginally better?

The FDL's one Huge Hardpoint is better than the Python's 3 Larges?

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

Originally posted by ListenFat:

I believe the Fer-de-Lance is at the top ship wise, but there are many other ship/builds all over youtube to take ideas from.

Really? The Python's not marginally better?

The FDL's one Huge Hardpoint is better than the Python's 3 Larges?

Depends what you put in your hard points. And how much time you can spend with them actually pointed at your target...

You can theoretically get slightly more firepower out of the Python. You'll have significantly less time on target though. And it's not just less agile... It's slower, making it an easy target, and it's got weak shields. Even 6A shields are puny in the Python...

A standard 6A on a python gives you 398MJ of protection (not looking at engineering/resistances/boosters etc, just the base value).

A 5A shield on the FDL gives you 470 (or about 420 in the Mamba?).

[Hurricane1045]

Originally posted by ListenFat:

Isn't playing in "Open" pvp anywhere?

i was kinda hoping for popular pvp systems

[ListenFat]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

Originally posted by ListenFat:

I believe the Fer-de-Lance is at the top ship wise, but there are many other ship/builds all over youtube to take ideas from.

Really? The Python's not marginally better?

The FDL's one Huge Hardpoint is better than the Python's 3 Larges?

Well the Python is extremely sluggish, compared to the lance.
I never said you couldn't be successful in any ship, but general census; the Lance is [S] tier.

[Jiffypop]

Don't know how dead it is at this point, but the way I first dipped my toes in was in the arena gamemode. It teaches you just how different players tend to move (at least in smaller ships) compared to the AI, since the AI is pretty solved. Otherwise, find some friends and fight them would be best. Unless you want to go ganking and just piss people off.

More often than not, PVP ships tend to be HEAVILY engineered. Like something that some dude has spent over 200 hours gathering the mats for. And engineered ships can be very hard to crack while they turn you to swiss cheese. FDL and Mamba I believe to be at the top for PVP, since they're agile enough to not get ass shot constantly by a good player, while at the same time they aren't paper. You can PVP with any ship. I've seen dudes take down a fully engineered Vette in an Eagle (granted this was an honorable fight to the death, the Vette surely could've fled in a real situation). The key thing is agility. Mastering fixed weaponry is huge too since people tend to rely on chaff or even going cold.

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

The FDL's one Huge Hardpoint is better than the Python's 3 Larges?

Better are the ones that you can keep pointing at your target. And the Python loses to the FDL in this case.

[Sighman]

Just fly around Shinrarta or Deciat in open. You'll soon find a PVPer. Any CG system, too.

[Jimmy0916]

Try the Galactic Combat Initiative Discord to get in contact with Cmdrs good in PvP, who know things and are not guessing stuff. 'because some numbers say so'...

https://discord.gg/tW4XkypC

There you will find organised events and info about organic encounters, as well as advise for builds etc.

o7 Cmdr, fly dangerously.

[Crazybite]

Where to start learning PVP? I'd suggest going to jameson memorial in shinrarta dezhra. Then in open just ask for a friendly PVP battle. Theres going to be people ready to give you some training or to give you some rebuy screens. Not an issue.

Shipwise, not every ship has a use here, but most ships are good combat vessels when built & used correctly.

you can take down just about everything even with a small sidewinder when prepared to learn and visit plenty of rebuy screens.

[Aegix Drakan]

Originally posted by ListenFat:

Well the Python is extremely sluggish, compared to the lance.
I never said you couldn't be successful in any ship, but general census; the Lance is [S] tier.

Huh. Really!

I've found NPC FDLs to be a joke to kill with my Vulture (it's so easy to get behind them and stay out of their crosshairs), but other ships (I thought it was python, but looking back it was a Federal Assault Ship) manage to put me into a death spiral where we just end up facing each other and shooting each other's cockpits out.

Well, I guess when I can next afford a new ship, I'll go for the FDL.

[Hurricane1045]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

Originally posted by ListenFat:

Well the Python is extremely sluggish, compared to the lance.
I never said you couldn't be successful in any ship, but general census; the Lance is [S] tier.

Huh. Really!

I've found NPC FDLs to be a joke to kill with my Vulture (it's so easy to get behind them and stay out of their crosshairs), but other ships (I thought it was python, but looking back it was a Federal Assault Ship) manage to put me into a death spiral where we just end up facing each other and shooting each other's cockpits out.

Well, I guess when I can next afford a new ship, I'll go for the FDL.

Krait mk2 is also a good choice if you want an all rounder thats more focused on the combat

[Jimmy0916]

Originally posted by Hurricane1045:

Krait mk2 is also a good choice if you want an all rounder thats more focused on the combat

Please, read your own question on top ;)
And then my answer earlier today.
Personally I think that pvp is the highest 'art' one can practice in this game, but it is no walk in the park.

I am playing this game since 2014, doing pvp since 2016 and ran into your post randomly, but felt you should be pointed the right way, so please... Galactic Combat Initiative :D

Everything else above seems well meant advise, but will not really take you anywhere.

Comparing an NPC FdL with a fully modded experienced PvP FdL is like comparing an 8 year old wearing a Real Madrid no 9 jersey, with the real Kylian Mbappé, if you understand what I mean.

Asking someone at Shinratra (if you have access) will most certainly just blow you up without you knowing why and the only answer you would get is "Get good!". Not very motivating.

The "weapon of choice" is primarily FdL, followed by Python Mk II. Most of the other ships, like Mamba, Krait II, Python or else can be used for pvp, but depend on the situation, build and therefore tactic, as well as of course trained skills. A Python is a very good 1v1 ship, for example, but in an unwanted pvp encounter (mostly called organic pvp) alone or in a wing, it is worthless as it is slow af.

All ships participating in this year's inofficial PvP League reaching the quarter finals were FdLs and some PM2. Guess why? ;)

o7

[Hurricane1045]

Originally posted by Jimmy0916:

Originally posted by Hurricane1045:

Krait mk2 is also a good choice if you want an all rounder thats more focused on the combat

The "weapon of choice" is primarily FdL

What about mamba? I used to have a frag mamba which was fun

[Jimmy0916]

It is fun, but it is a drive-by shooter by design. So every time you pass an enemy, given in a 1v1, they can shoot you too and while you take ages to turn around they can shoot you as well...

Send me a friend request on Steam, if you like, then we can discuss this in private.
Oh, that's not that easy...