Elite Dangerous

Elite Dangerous

Can I play this if it is retired?
I know there is no single player mode for the game. But, has Frontier made any assurances that you can still play the game after it is retired (if ever)?

I don't want to buy this game now and a few months down the road they say it'll be closed. For good. And there is no offline solution. So, too bad. It sucks, but there is no way to play the game anymore. Money down the drain.
Last edited by necromaster; Jul 6, 2024 @ 7:39pm
Originally posted by Un1k0rn:
Ignoring the matter of "game dead/alive/in purgatory", as that's not what is being asked here:

OP, it's an online-only game. At some point the company is going to shut it down. Could be next week. Could be in the next decade from now. Eventually it will happen though and when it does, the odds are that it means there will be no more Elite Dangerous, and keeping the game installed would at that point be wasting storage space.

Been through this many times myself:

I enjoy a game. Game starts to hit trouble or even simply sees a drop in player numbers (This is an example of other games I've played, before people jump on me over Elite's player count without thinking about what I am actually saying first), and the game then shuts down. Some of those games were months old, some were several years old.

It'll happen with my current favourite game too, Elder Scrolls Online and that is a much, much bigger commercial success than Elite can ever hope to be. I don't know when but eventually it will.

Want to know what I got in return for those games shutting down? For any money I may have spent?

That's right: Nothing. And Elite is no different. This is something you need to be comfortable with in general if you want to play games such as this, as one day, you will lose access, and you won't get a say in the matter.

On a final note: There was a single remark along the lines of "We would like to make the game playable offline if need be" by one David Braben. I want to point out that Elite is I believe, if my reading of their history is correct, the first game that Frontier made that is reliant on an active server to play. I do think that particular statement was made with a lot of naivety from someone who hadn't actually that much experience in online games. So, take it with a very large grain of salt. I don't give it much credit for this reason.

So no, realistically there aren't any solid assurances and it's naive to expect one for this type of game anyway.
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There is no reason for this game to be closed in a few months: FDevs still develop the game. A few new ships are to be added in 2 months, with power play overhaul coming, too. Thargoids war is going on right now.

There are no assurances. But FDevs were considering to change the game to be payable offline whenever their servers are finally turned off.
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Sighman Jul 6, 2024 @ 9:18pm 
For most of last year regular players were treated to 'dead gaem' videos and comments from people who almost seemed glad to predict the end of Elite Dangerous.

Fdev shut them all up in January with the announcement of a raft of new content due this year. New ships, a new superpowers struggle, and an entirely new feature never attempted in the game before.

The doomers shouting that the game was about to be shut down went very quiet, and it's just not a thing any more.

Anyway, nobody knows the future, but barring something truly catastrophic it looks like ED will be with us for some years yet.

Finally, it's often on sale for less than the cost of a movie ticket.
Doom Jul 6, 2024 @ 10:24pm 
Originally posted by necromaster:
But, has Frontier made any assurances that you can still play the game after it is retired (if ever)?
I don't think so.

Originally posted by necromaster:
I don't want to buy this game now and a few months down the road they say it'll be closed.
Haven't heard anything like that. Anyway, it goes like this:

* We don't know what FDev will do when the game shuts down. A good idea would be to provide offline solution OR release their server, but there's no guarantee they'll do that.

* However, even by most pessimistic estimate it'll last much more than just a few months. I'd say the lowest estimate would be 3-5 years. Given that they gave plans about new ship, it appears they want to keep it operational. Perhaps to keep those arx money flowing in. However, given they announced only one ship, it looks like there will be a small team maintaining it. Things certainly could be better than this, but this is better than nothing.

So, just go and play. It's definitely not going to disappear in a few months.
Sighman Jul 6, 2024 @ 10:30pm 
Originally posted by Doom:
However, given they announced only one ship, it looks like there will be a small team maintaining it. Things certainly could be better than this, but this is better than nothing.

They announced four new ships. We have one already, the next (Type 8) is coming in August, and two more after that.

They also announced update 19 in September with the Powerplay 2.0 overhaul.

After that, there's the 'entirely new feature' we know nothing else about yet.

Hardly a small team doing maintenance.
krashd Jul 6, 2024 @ 10:31pm 
David Braben, the man who created Elite back in 1984 with his best friend and who later created Elite II and Elite III by himself would have to be facing some serious dire straits before he announced that he was shutting down the Elite Dangerous server, and thus killing the game.

The Elite franchise has always been his baby. Other publishers might have shut down the game by now because the player base is not in 7 or 8 figures but this is Braben's game, it is his company, and he self publishes, believe me-he would rather sell some of his bigger IPs than neglect ED. That is why the game is constantly updated, and why it features new content additions every now and again despite not being a subscription service.

You could call E:D his hobby, his train set.
Sighman Jul 6, 2024 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by krashd:
You could call E:D his hobby, his train set.

He left a like on one of my ED screenshots on twitter earlier this year. That was an awesome moment for me ;-)
Doom Jul 6, 2024 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by Sighman:
Originally posted by Doom:
However, given they announced only one ship, it looks like there will be a small team maintaining it. Things certainly could be better than this, but this is better than nothing.

They announced four new ships. We have one already, the next (Type 8) is coming in August, and two more after that.
And that is the reason why I said a small team is maintaining the game. Because that's a small number of ships delivered slowly. Two months per Type 8 means 1-5 people working on it.

Large team would be 15 to 30 brand new ships announced and delivered this year.
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Sighman Jul 6, 2024 @ 11:13pm 
Originally posted by Doom:
Originally posted by Sighman:

They announced four new ships. We have one already, the next (Type 8) is coming in August, and two more after that.
And that is the reason why I said a small team is maintaining the game. Because that's small number of ships delivered slowly.

Large team would be 15 to 30 brand new ships delivered in comparable timeframe.

Fair enough. We just have different ideas of what constitutes worthwhile content. New ships don't really interest me, although the type 8 looks handy. I'm more interested in new things to do with them.
Doom Jul 6, 2024 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by Sighman:
Originally posted by Doom:
And that is the reason why I said a small team is maintaining the game. Because that's small number of ships delivered slowly.

Large team would be 15 to 30 brand new ships delivered in comparable timeframe.

Fair enough. We just have different ideas of what constitutes worthwhile content. New ships don't really interest me, although the type 8 looks handy. I'm more interested in new things to do with them.
Fair enough, to each their own. Personally I would prefer full VR support for odyssey, but, well, whatever. The game runs as is for now, that's good enough.
deathclaw Jul 7, 2024 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by necromaster:
I know there is no single player mode for the game.
What about Solo play mode?
Originally posted by deathclaw:
Originally posted by necromaster:
I know there is no single player mode for the game.
What about Solo play mode?
The Solo mode still requires internet and game servers to be up and running. Background simulation is generated by game servers even for Solo.
Doom Jul 7, 2024 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by deathclaw:
Originally posted by necromaster:
I know there is no single player mode for the game.
What about Solo play mode?
Solo mode will not launch when servers are inaccessible. State of the galaxy is stored on frontier servers. It goes down, the game breaks.
Last edited by Doom; Jul 7, 2024 @ 2:18am
Sighman Jul 7, 2024 @ 2:28am 
From the EULA

"8.2 The Online Features are provided over the internet as provided by Frontier. You acknowledge that the Online Features are provided by Frontier at its discretion and may be terminated or otherwise discontinued by Frontier at any time."

Same as any other game with an online component. I'm guessing if they ever shut it down they could release a final snapshot of the galaxy and some kind of local server (maybe), but I don't think I'd want to play on that except for nostalgia.
dave46563 Jul 7, 2024 @ 2:59am 
Originally posted by Doom:
Originally posted by deathclaw:
What about Solo play mode?
Solo mode will not launch when servers are inaccessible. State of the galaxy is stored on frontier servers. It goes down, the game breaks.

That's true, but Solo is technically the single player mode of Elite. It needs a connection, but you won't encounter other players. I think this is what they meant.

Solo and Open share the same galaxy too.
david.hardie Jul 7, 2024 @ 3:32am 
We always have these doomsayers. Ever since the game launched the sky has been falling.
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