Linking to EDSM?

[Darth_Lopez]

Does anyone know how to link to EDSM when you only own through steam? I've been entering my email and password for frontier in their link section but no dice :/

Additionally are overlay tools like EDDiscovery actually ok to use? They won't be counted as cheating or something?

[funkynutz]

I used EDMC instead of EDDiscovery, but yeah they're fine... The info on websites like EDDB simply wouldn't exist without them.

[Darth_Lopez]

Originally posted by FunkynutZ:

I used EDMC instead of EDDiscovery, but yeah they're fine... The info on websites like EDDB simply wouldn't exist without them.

I guess this is really my first foray into third party tools and so on. But what exactly does EDMC do different from EDDiscovery?

I stumbled across it on a google for an exploration tips/finding terraformables. (Since I've been trying to figure it out and I'm getting a bit tired of scanning and landing on everything -.-)

But I google and it looks like its more of a market tool? But can it provide system data and stuff? Like estimated payouts for planetary scans etc...? As that was my primary draw. I've been doing pretty good just running browsers in my other monitor when I need to but I'd be quite curious about it.

[funkynutz]

I think EDMC is more modular, by default it's quite lightweight compared to EDD but there's a ton of features available through different plugins. Not 100% though, I haven't actually used EDD.

[Clueless Disgrace]

To all new players reading this:
There are excellent 3rd party tools doing frontiers job, please familiarise and consider using a sharing tool that sends your data (station inventory, commodity prices ans stock etc.) to those tools. After all, they aren't of much use if no one feeds them and is only leeching. So here we go:
ED Market Connector is my personal choice, it is lightweight, unobtrusive and does exactly what i described above.
As for useful sites https://cmdrs-toolbox.com/ is an excellent starting point to find out about all there is, all credits to Down to Earth Astronomy, a popular ED streamer.
Feel free to ask if anything's unclear
o7

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Clueless Disgrace:

To all new players reading this:
There are excellent 3rd party tools doing frontiers job, please familiarise and consider using a sharing tool that sends your data (station inventory, commodity prices ans stock etc.) to those tools. After all, they aren't of much use if no one feeds them and is only leeching. So here we go:
ED Market Connector is my personal choice, it is lightweight, unobtrusive and does exactly what i described above.
As for useful sites https://cmdrs-toolbox.com/ is an excellent starting point to find out about all there is, all credits to Down to Earth Astronomy, a popular ED streamer.
Feel free to ask if anything's unclear
o7

Inara actually uses the games API now as well, so if you link your account on there to your frontier account you don't actually need EDMC anymore. That doesn't help the other sites that still rely on player data, like EDDB though, and it's not tracked in anything close to real time (it still shows me as sitting in my Corvette in the bubble, I'm 20 odd thousand LY away...)

[Darth_Lopez]

Originally posted by Clueless Disgrace:

To all new players reading this:
There are excellent 3rd party tools doing frontiers job, please familiarise and consider using a sharing tool that sends your data (station inventory, commodity prices ans stock etc.) to those tools. After all, they aren't of much use if no one feeds them and is only leeching. So here we go:
ED Market Connector is my personal choice, it is lightweight, unobtrusive and does exactly what i described above.
As for useful sites https://cmdrs-toolbox.com/ is an excellent starting point to find out about all there is, all credits to Down to Earth Astronomy, a popular ED streamer.
Feel free to ask if anything's unclear
o7

That is useful there. :3 No one has linked me that yet. So much appreciated.

I still am unsure how to link my account to EDSM though >.> so i'm not sure if i'm doing it wrong or right >.> that material finder though is fantastic :3 what a god send.

[Clueless Disgrace]

Originally posted by Darth_Lopez:

That is useful there. :3 No one has linked me that yet. So much appreciated.

I still am unsure how to link my account to EDSM though >.> so i'm not sure if i'm doing it wrong or right >.> that material finder though is fantastic :3 what a god send.

As long as you're linked to one of the major 3rd party sites you're good, they do share among each other. The market connector i mentioned earlier does link to the big three if you want to make sure.

[Kosevich]

Originally posted by FunkynutZ:

Inara actually uses the games API now as well, so if you link your account on there to your frontier account you don't actually need EDMC anymore. That doesn't help the other sites that still rely on player data, like EDDB though, and it's not tracked in anything close to real time (it still shows me as sitting in my Corvette in the bubble, I'm 20 odd thousand LY away...)

Wait what?
How actually inara receiving data without 3d party soft?
I mean is it real time or once a day?
P.S. I'm using EDDiscovery + Windows 7. And since release of Odyssey EDMC stop support Windows 7.
So it's really problematic for me to send data to Inara.

[Clueless Disgrace]

Inara gets the data frontier provides through the API to which you consented. AFAIK that data set isn't sufficient for eddb for example, it doesn't include current commodity prices and demand/supply of stations you are visiting.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Kosevich:

Originally posted by FunkynutZ:

Inara actually uses the games API now as well, so if you link your account on there to your frontier account you don't actually need EDMC anymore. That doesn't help the other sites that still rely on player data, like EDDB though, and it's not tracked in anything close to real time (it still shows me as sitting in my Corvette in the bubble, I'm 20 odd thousand LY away...)

Wait what?
How actually inara receiving data without 3d party soft?
I mean is it real time or once a day?
P.S. I'm using EDDiscovery + Windows 7. And since release of Odyssey EDMC stop support Windows 7.
So it's really problematic for me to send data to Inara.

I should have been a little more specific:

You don't need to use edmc IF all you want to do is keep track of your commander progress. Ranks and faction reps, ships owned, how they're outfitted... Materials you've collected for engineers etc...

You just link your Inara account to your Frontier account, and Inara pulls the relevant info directly from Frontier.

As I said though: It's definitely NOT realtime. I doubt it's even once per day tbh, unless you force the update yourself (which IS an option).

And it doesn't give any info to sites like EDDB, so it's useless for trade prices, purchasing ship/module locations etc...

[Deadbringer]

I've got EDMC installed and running, but it provides no utility to me as I use websites like inara for my needs. EDMC simply gathers marketing info from stations I visit so others and I can benefit from it. The more people we have using it (or similar like EDDiscovery) the better info we will have of the game world

[lefty1117]

Check out EliteG19s, it was originally created to update the display on the G19 keyboard with Elite stuff, but has grown into so much more than that. It has connectors to all the main data aggregators - EDSM, Inara, etc And it has additional features like being able to play music, or hear comms voices as you play. It can be used with a second screen and will show you information about the system you're in (including market info), or the orrery, or a few other things you can customize. Overall I'm quite satisfied with it as an ED companion app, and it's just one thing I have to run for sending data to the partner sites.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by Deadbringer:

I've got EDMC installed and running, but it provides no utility to me as I use websites like inara for my needs. EDMC simply gathers marketing info from stations I visit so others and I can benefit from it. The more people we have using it (or similar like EDDiscovery) the better info we will have of the game world

Inara will still benefit from the data that EDMC shares. Some stuff the game API just doesn't cover...

[Darth_Lopez]

Originally posted by Deadbringer:

I've got EDMC installed and running, but it provides no utility to me as I use websites like inara for my needs. EDMC simply gathers marketing info from stations I visit so others and I can benefit from it. The more people we have using it (or similar like EDDiscovery) the better info we will have of the game world

I've gone with EDDiscovery, since I mostly just wanted it for tracking the value of planets and what not, but I also signed up to inara and I believe it should be updating my infos there etc...