Elite Dangerous

Elite Dangerous

HyperWayne Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:25pm
Thargoid war needs to close or come to a close end.
Last 30 Days 3,747.0 +6.4 +0.17% 6,494
March 2023 3,740.6 -348.4 -8.52% 6,494
February 2023 4,089.0 -721.1 -14.99% 7,461
January 2023 4,810.1 -680.7 -12.40% 8,259
December 2022 5,490.7 +1,631.7 +42.28% 10,168
November 2022 3,859.0 +163.2 +4.42% 8,959

Based on the stats offered its active players and how many players stopped playing each month. The Thargoid run is not beneficial for most. Thargoids are hard to fight, kitting a ship is extremely grindy, etc. The game needs to focus on more functionality rather than an invasion from the thargoids. Im really hoping frontier ties something in new. invading systems when the average player gets roasts by thargoids isnt good. Realistic as retaliation yes but the war has gone on a very long time so far IMO.

Anyways I know i might get the opposite opinion but i really think frontier needs to stay on track with functionality and more in depth abilities. For how MASSIVE the map is we need more things to do. We need more detailed planets and we need more life ( Animals, oceans, atmospheric worlds teaming with life. )

I been playing since launch so I been here for everything.
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Godrik Underscore Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
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While it is true that the Thargoid war in the game has seen a decline in active players over the past few months, it is important to note that many players still enjoy participating in this content. Some players find the challenge of fighting the Thargoids to be an exciting and rewarding experience, and the game offers a variety of tools and resources to help players prepare and outfit their ships for combat.

Furthermore, it is not necessarily the case that the decline in active players is solely due to the Thargoid content. There are many factors that can influence player activity, such as competing games, personal time constraints, or shifts in player interests. It is possible that some players may have simply moved on to other games or activities.

Regarding the suggestion to focus on more functionality and in-depth abilities, it is important to recognize that game development is a complex and iterative process. While the addition of new content and features is certainly important, it is also crucial to ensure that the existing content is balanced and engaging for players. It is possible that the development team is already working on new functionality and in-depth abilities, but these things take time to implement properly.

Finally, while it is true that the game's universe is vast and there is much to explore, it is also important to consider the technical and logistical challenges of creating detailed planets and life forms. Creating realistic and engaging content takes time and resources, and the development team may need to prioritize certain aspects of the game over others.

In summary, while it is understandable to have concerns about the Thargoid war and the overall direction of the game, it is important to consider the complex nature of game development and the diverse interests of the player base. The development team is constantly working to improve and expand the game, and it is possible that new content and functionality will be added in the future.
Radium Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
The war has only been going on for 4 months or so, it's a bit early to just suddenly end it because 'it's not beneficial'. The war is but a supplement to existing gameplay - even after 4 months the Thargoids only control about 1,000 systems. Humanity still holds 20,000 systems. At this rate it'll take a lot longer to capture the bubble, and that's assuming we didn't actively fight back. People can still avoid the conflict with barely any disruption if they just go around or avoid the war systems.

There are still a bunch of player groups making good progress and having their fun pushing back the war, and we have yet to scratch the surface of the story, or what the Maelstroms might be that brought forward the war. An 'average player' should probably not be diving into a combat zone with an advanced alien race without some semblance or knowledge of what they're doing. It is end-game content for a reason, but you can still do rescues etcetera without being hugely versed in the Thargoid mechanics.

What you're ultimately asking for in terms of Earth-like worlds and more life is impractical on a large scale. No Man's Sky was built from the ground up to be procedurally generated, but lacks much of the complexity and realism Elite has, and ultimately generates arcadey lifeforms and planets. Space is unsurprisingly empty, massive, and most systems can be boring or unremarkable, since this is a space flight simulator after all. Atmospheric flight mechanics, water physics and whatnot are a lot more complicated than you might think, especially when it has to be put into a game that wasn't particularly and explicitly designed with it in mind. Unfortunately I could only possibly see Frontier going as far as slightly thicker atmospheres with weather and whatnot.
Last edited by Radium; Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:35pm
HyperWayne Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Godrik Underscore:
While it is true that the Thargoid war in the game has seen a decline in active players over the past few months, it is important to note that many players still enjoy participating in this content. Some players find the challenge of fighting the Thargoids to be an exciting and rewarding experience, and the game offers a variety of tools and resources to help players prepare and outfit their ships for combat.

Furthermore, it is not necessarily the case that the decline in active players is solely due to the Thargoid content. There are many factors that can influence player activity, such as competing games, personal time constraints, or shifts in player interests. It is possible that some players may have simply moved on to other games or activities.

Regarding the suggestion to focus on more functionality and in-depth abilities, it is important to recognize that game development is a complex and iterative process. While the addition of new content and features is certainly important, it is also crucial to ensure that the existing content is balanced and engaging for players. It is possible that the development team is already working on new functionality and in-depth abilities, but these things take time to implement properly.

Finally, while it is true that the game's universe is vast and there is much to explore, it is also important to consider the technical and logistical challenges of creating detailed planets and life forms. Creating realistic and engaging content takes time and resources, and the development team may need to prioritize certain aspects of the game over others.

In summary, while it is understandable to have concerns about the Thargoid war and the overall direction of the game, it is important to consider the complex nature of game development and the diverse interests of the player base. The development team is constantly working to improve and expand the game, and it is possible that new content and functionality will be added in the future.


Fantastic Response. Id run this game with you any day. Best response from a player with without any toxicity. I need to remind myself of the complexity of these updates. ive spent maybe 400 in game helping support this game I just want to see it freaking bloom more.
Last edited by HyperWayne; Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:38pm
Antaiir Apr 5, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
Well... many numbers. Do they have any meaning?
Stelar Seven Apr 5, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
I for one have been on a break, but I'm glad the goids are still there goiding so I can boot up and blast them if the mood hits. I doubt we'll ever see an end of the goids as that would mean all the dev time to bring them to us was thrown away.

Any player who wants can engage with them or ignore them completely. They only impact those of us who want to play.
Originally posted by Lord Robicheaux:
Originally posted by Godrik Underscore:
While it is true that the Thargoid war in the game has seen a decline in active players over the past few months, it is important to note that many players still enjoy participating in this content. Some players find the challenge of fighting the Thargoids to be an exciting and rewarding experience, and the game offers a variety of tools and resources to help players prepare and outfit their ships for combat.

Furthermore, it is not necessarily the case that the decline in active players is solely due to the Thargoid content. There are many factors that can influence player activity, such as competing games, personal time constraints, or shifts in player interests. It is possible that some players may have simply moved on to other games or activities.

Regarding the suggestion to focus on more functionality and in-depth abilities, it is important to recognize that game development is a complex and iterative process. While the addition of new content and features is certainly important, it is also crucial to ensure that the existing content is balanced and engaging for players. It is possible that the development team is already working on new functionality and in-depth abilities, but these things take time to implement properly.

Finally, while it is true that the game's universe is vast and there is much to explore, it is also important to consider the technical and logistical challenges of creating detailed planets and life forms. Creating realistic and engaging content takes time and resources, and the development team may need to prioritize certain aspects of the game over others.

In summary, while it is understandable to have concerns about the Thargoid war and the overall direction of the game, it is important to consider the complex nature of game development and the diverse interests of the player base. The development team is constantly working to improve and expand the game, and it is possible that new content and functionality will be added in the future.


Fantastic Response. Id run this game with you any day. Best response from a player with without any toxicity. I need to remind myself of the complexity of these updates. ive spent maybe 400 in game helping support this game I just want to see it freaking bloom more.

Thanks ;) But I am about 90% to Beagle Point right now and it will take me at least a month until I get back to the bubble. My E:D handle is the same as it is here on Steam in case you ever want to add me.
Harriet Apr 5, 2023 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Lord Robicheaux:
Thargoids are hard to fight, kitting a ship is extremely grindy,

No they're not, and no it isn't - not since update 14.
Planewalker Apr 5, 2023 @ 3:36pm 
OP wrt steam numbers there was a time when elite was not on steam and doing fine.
People tend to forget that.

Also, it will take the thargoids around four years to conquer the whole bubble at the current rate... (this is without accounting for our newfound "tools" for pushing back harder)

Originally posted by Harriet:
Originally posted by Lord Robicheaux:
Thargoids are hard to fight, kitting a ship is extremely grindy,
No they're not, and no it isn't - not since update 14.
Case in point i'm flying a newly kitted krait2 w only stock enhanced ax weps & some hull reinforcements: took out my first cyclops today and tried to pick up the heart before the cloud had dissipated. -needless to say the rebuy screen said hi shortly after. XD

Also just pushed a system from alert to withdrawal tomorrow; moving on to counter-attack in two nearby systems now forcing a thargoid withdrawal in both.

Originally posted by Lord Robicheaux:
I just want to see it freaking bloom more.
We all do. (Murderflowers notwithstanding x)



Things take time and big things takes big time. :partyboo:
Jeffreyac Apr 5, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
...it's also important to note that no one is making anyone participate in the war. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. No reason to press for an end to an activity that some people are enjoying just 'cause you personally don't enjoy it. Just go to the the majority of the bubble where the war isn't occurring, and do what you want... like always...

Personally, I enjoy it as a change of pace. I've fought thargoids, run rescue missions, run cargo... then, if I get tired of it, I'll go explore, or trade, or mine, or run ground combat. All the normal things.

I don't see how having another possible activity is a bad thing warranting a call to end it - if you don't want to, you certainly don't have to participate. Isn't this enough?
Last edited by Jeffreyac; Apr 5, 2023 @ 3:59pm
Jeffreyac Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:00pm 
...holy crap.

First of all, where are you getting those numbers? Really, you think only a half of a percvent of players are enjoying the content? I think that's ludicrous - but you know what, I'll admit that's my opinion, and I'll admit I have no way proving it. Just like you have no way of proving your claim.

Secondly, lots of folks have been proclaiming the death of ED for a long time. Someday they'll be right.

...but not today. And I'm not sure using Yamiks as a champion will help your cause.

But hey, you do you, man.
Jeffreyac Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
...ok, let's look at your claim. I know there are thousands of players playing the thargoid content - can prove it, as their actions show up on inara as participants.

...so, you tell me. If those thousands represent 0.5% of the player base, then the playerbase is huge and healthy, and we're fine. Of course, if they represent a larger percentage of a smaller playerbase - well, then I guess more folks are playing the thargoid content.

So, which one ya wanna pick?
Planewalker Apr 5, 2023 @ 7:26pm 
Originally posted by Space_Cat:
Also what about those who do not want to explore?

Its a forced narrative!
Those who want to do other things will (and can still (our squad is fighting a local conflict atm)) do other things, and yes thargoids invading after humans have attacked them over a long period is a forced narrative, and?

FTR i'm doing AX combat in a krait with minimum engineering and stock AX weapons, why are you so much up in arms that you are throwing around more than half a years worth of doooom along with made up numbers?

Is it bc you are scared that the bubble and colonia will be overrun so there is no place to be?
(fair enough if that is the case; it won't happen before at least four years so don't fret =)


Who knows how it's all gonna pan out, maybe the guardians will appear. Maybe we will have on-foot combat in more areas, maybe a lot of things.


Originally posted by Space_Cat:
Also yes the game is still uninstalled on my machine, but I will comment on anyone who says that the thargoid war should end since it should.
Bruh.

You don't play the game and want to force other people to play how you want???

o_0


How about just doing what makes you happy instead of saying others can't have fun?
Last edited by Planewalker; Apr 5, 2023 @ 7:31pm
FREEZED Apr 5, 2023 @ 7:29pm 
why it has to come to end?
you did not give any reason. You can still play game and not interact with thargoids at all so just stop yourself doing stuff you do not want to do.
Harriet Apr 5, 2023 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by Space_Cat:
Like Yamiks said this game is dead

You should have started your post with that, and then I wouldn't have had to read all the other stuff before that insight.
Stelar Seven Apr 6, 2023 @ 12:36am 
I love the "Dead game" that keeps getting content updates. These folks need to learn at least some common word uses.
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