Look how they massacred my boy

[JagdPanzer IV]

Just re installed Elite Dangerous HORIZONS after a long hiatus to try out the overhaul to "live"version.
I used medium graphics settings on the "legacy" version and got a playable and good enough graphics on my laptop with 2gb gpu. The new version, with same graphics settings looks worse and runs worse. landing on a planet turns the game into a slideshow on single digit fps. And the game itself didnt change at all. What the hell man...

[funkynutz]

Unfortunately, your GPU doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Live/Odyssey.

The recommended system requirements bit should really be updated to be inline with the Odyseey requirements (the original Elite Dangerous "recommended" graphics card -GTX770 - doesn't meet minimum spec - GTX 780 - for Odyssey).

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by funkynutz:

Unfortunately, your GPU doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Live/Odyssey.

The recommended system requirements bit should really be updated to be inline with the Odyseey requirements (the original Elite Dangerous "recommended" graphics card -GTX770 - doesn't meet minimum spec - GTX 780 - for Odyssey).

yeah, thats kinda my point. they massacred the game for nothing. on horizon everything but the menus is the same as "legacy" yet they increased system requirements considerably.

[ninjastinjala]

You say massacred, the rest of us say "improved" lol

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by ninjastinjala:

You say massacred, the rest of us say "improved" lol

what improved if the only meaningful change on horizon is that it runs worse?

[Jeebs]

The planet tech got a major overhaul. Personally I find the new tech makes far more realistic-looking planet terrain and it generally looks much better than it used to. Even if you're landing on Horizons planets.

The fact is, as Funky pointed out, your hardware likely can't handle the new stuff. It's time for an upgrade, by the sounds of it. That may not be what you wanted to hear. I had to upgrade to play Odyssey as well and I don't regret it. I've had a lot of fun with the new content. Even just exploration runs out into the black are a lot more pleasant and have far more breath-taking scenery planetside than previously.

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by Jeebs:

The planet tech got a major overhaul. Personally I find the new tech makes far more realistic-looking planet terrain and it generally looks much better than it used to. Even if you're landing on Horizons planets.

The fact is, as Funky pointed out, your hardware likely can't handle the new stuff. It's time for an upgrade, by the sounds of it. That may not be what you wanted to hear. I had to upgrade to play Odyssey as well and I don't regret it. I've had a lot of fun with the new content. Even just exploration runs out into the black are a lot more pleasant and have far more breath-taking scenery planetside than previously.

im not talking about Odyssey, im talking about HORIZON.

[JagdPanzer IV]

To clarify, since every poster so far keeps referencing Odyssey.
I dont own odyssey, nor i plan to get it. Im not talking about it at all. This thread is about Elite Dangerous HORIZONS

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Originally posted by Blue Beans:

To clarify, since every poster so far keeps referencing Odyssey.
I dont own odyssey, nor i plan to get it. Im not talking about it at all. This thread is about Elite Dangerous HORIZONS

They updated their engine for Oddy in addition to other factors such as lighting, textures, how planetary bodies are rendered etc.

This directly impacts *you* because that very same engine is also the default for Horizons.

Horizons and Oddy LIVE both use the newer., while Horizons Legacy is the *old* engine. However, you will no longer be able to make any progression while playing in Legacy mode.

If you are using dated hardware then that is why you are struggling to maintain a smooth experience in Horizons LIVE. That is what people have been trying to tell you.

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by <3 Beepy <3:

Originally posted by Blue Beans:

To clarify, since every poster so far keeps referencing Odyssey.
I dont own odyssey, nor i plan to get it. Im not talking about it at all. This thread is about Elite Dangerous HORIZONS

They updated their engine for Oddy in addition to other factors such as lighting, textures, how planetary bodies are rendered etc.

This directly impacts you because that very same engine is also the default for Horizons.

Horizons and Oddy LIVE both use the newer., while Horizons Legacy is the *old* engine. However, you will no longer be able to make any progression while playing in Legacy mode.

If you are using dated hardware then that is why you are struggling to maintain a smooth experience.

I already know this, hence the thread. they completely ruined horizons to tack on odyssey. which i dont own or want. So now i am locked out of playing the horizons game i paid twice for (base game elite dangerous, and horizon dlc).
I also just wasted 100gb to download this piece of crap.

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Originally posted by Blue Beans:

Originally posted by <3 Beepy <3:

They updated their engine for Oddy in addition to other factors such as lighting, textures, how planetary bodies are rendered etc.

This directly impacts you because that very same engine is also the default for Horizons.

Horizons and Oddy LIVE both use the newer., while Horizons Legacy is the *old* engine. However, you will no longer be able to make any progression while playing in Legacy mode.

If you are using dated hardware then that is why you are struggling to maintain a smooth experience.

I already know this, hence the thread. they completely ruined horizons to tack on odyssey. which i dont own or want. So now i am locked out of playing the horizons game i paid twice for (base game elite dangerous, and horizon dlc).

You can still run Horizons Legacy and play that. It was done as a courtesy to those that can't or don't want to upgrade their hardware. And it doesn't include any of the added features and updates that the Odyssey Engine has.

And to be fair, Horizons came out nearly a decade ago. Hardware and system requirements have changed quite a lot since then and FDev wanted to continue their narrative in the Elite universe thus, the Odyssey Expansion.

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by <3 Beepy <3:

You can still run Horizons Legacy and play that.

Actually, i cant. the launcher crashes every time i click on any version to switch.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/8/3816291265158363060/

Also, quoting your own words.
"However, you will no longer be able to make any progression while playing in Legacy mode."

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Blue Beans:

im not talking about Odyssey, im talking about HORIZON.

Horizons also have planets. And those planets were improved with the new game engine tech.

[JagdPanzer IV]

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Horizons also have planets. And those planets were improved with the new game engine tech.

I didnt notice any difference except the drop in fps and graphical quality,

[Sighman]

Originally posted by Blue Beans:

Originally posted by Dolphin Bottlenose:

Horizons also have planets. And those planets were improved with the new game engine tech.

I didnt notice any difference except the drop in fps and graphical quality,

In the graphics settings make sure scaling isn't set to FSR. This renders at low res and scales up.

This is a Horizons planet in the new engine (although I did get out on foot)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3022747551

[Dolphin Bottlenose]

Originally posted by Sighman:

In the graphics settings make sure scaling isn't set to FSR. This renders at low res and scales up.

I afraid that the 2GB graphics card wouldn't be able to handle it without FSR.